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mekyabetsu posted:Every thread is the right thread for it. mostly I don’t want to derail the thread bc that happened over in the happy thread and seems to have brought it to a screeching halt I’ve used a really light touch here for a reason so I’m trying to keep out in front of things.
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Eat This Glob posted:I'd personally be more concerned with them getting murdered by the cops than them getting in trouble. cops by virtue of being the people to do welfare checks and their policy of "shoot first if you're afraid" and suffer no consequences later aren't ideal for people experiencing a mental health crisis imo. That said, if you're cognizant of that and you're truly concerned for someone's safety and you cant check in on them, it is pretty much the only option, sadly. there are some very real risks associated with the police being called to help someone in a mental health crisis. unfortunately, often they are the only port in a storm, and in some cases, they exacerbate the problem, or just go ahead and kill people they're supposed to be helping. calling the police has consequences, good and bad
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Jun 1, 2019 21:02
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So I'm kinda isolating and avoiding people. I don't feel depressed though. But I still have the internet for some human interaction!
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Jun 1, 2019 21:24
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Depression can sometimes manifest itself in odd ways. The popular perception is of someone weeping and suicidal (possibly while wearing a lot of dark eye make-up and listening to sad music) but quite a lot of the time it's just dreary stuff like "I haven't got the energy to do this simple thing I need to do, I'm going back to bed. I think of it like "depressant" drugs, which will slow a person right down and impair their functions, but not necessarily make them feel "sad". I've also been mostly using the internet for human interaction. Going out and trying to talk to people (who no doubt mean well, but get very noisy at times) so often seems like more work than I have the energy for. Jollity Farm has issued a correction as of 01:36 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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Jun 2, 2019 01:33
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Jollity Farm posted:Depression can sometimes manifest itself in odd ways. The popular perception is of someone weeping and suicidal (possibly while wearing a lot of dark eye make-up and listening to sad music) but quite a lot of the time it's just dreary stuff like "I haven't got the energy to do this simple thing I need to do, I'm going back to bed. I think of it like "depressant" drugs, which will slow a person right down and impair their functions, but not necessarily make them feel "sad". That's what I have, mostly. I self-medicate with excessive amounts of caffeine (pills, energy drinks, coffee, etc.) to get through the day, but it just makes the crash that much harder. Sometimes I'll go without it, but those days are loving hard.
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Jun 2, 2019 01:47
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Screaming Idiot posted:That's what I have, mostly. I self-medicate with excessive amounts of caffeine (pills, energy drinks, coffee, etc.) to get through the day, but it just makes the crash that much harder. Sometimes I'll go without it, but those days are loving hard.
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Jun 2, 2019 02:03
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people also forget dysthymia is a thing. depression doesn’t always manifest as crippling lack of energy. sometimes it’s also a vague feeling of missing a part of yourself along with getting tired really easily. blah.
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Jun 2, 2019 03:16
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long shot but has anyone ever read a good book on relationships, specifically communication? my ~socialist girlfriend~ want to improve our relationship but all these books seem very liberal.
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Jun 2, 2019 03:41
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:long shot but has anyone ever read a good book on relationships, specifically communication? my ~socialist girlfriend~ want to improve our relationship but all these books seem very liberal. What, you don't Buy Her All The Things? If you would just Buy Her All The Things your relationship would work better. Perhaps you should buy and take Better Pills. They will make your parts bigger and more attractive, make other parts smell and look nicer, and are almost totally non-addictive. You should also shave your parts better, and use Better Body Products. Buy All The Things and your life will be so much better. Don't you love your girlfriend? Why aren't you Buying All The Things? Consume, god drat you! Among the many reasons I'm single is because this mantra slams into my skull the moment I consider getting into a relationship, and even if I do, what the gently caress do I have to offer to a relationship but crippling depression, untreated PTSD, and an enormous schwanzstucker?
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Jun 2, 2019 03:53
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Well, I have a prescription for speed now. I had an appointment with my psychiatrist yesterday, and, among other things, we discussed my total lack of energy as soon as late afternoon rolls around. I'm so exhausted after work that on most nights, I just crash right after I get home, wake up at 3 or 4 AM, stumble around in a haze for a few hours, then it's off to work again. All I do is work and sleep, and I hate it. My place is a mess because I don't do any basic chores during the week, and forget about actually having any leisure time. I've tried changing my diet, exercising in the early morning, exercising during my noon break, caffeine... I can't seem to get over it. He told me that it was important for me to keep working with my therapist on these issues, but he's a psychiatrist, so the discussion inevitably came to pharmaceutical solutions. I told him I was open to it but very wary of using any kind of stimulants. Things like addiction and withdrawal obviously won't help my situation. He agreed, but told me that if I was okay with it, he was willing to prescribe me the lowest dose of Adderall for a couple weeks to see how I'd tolerate it. I'm taking a subtherapeutic dose of 5 mg in the afternoon. If I have no problems with it after a few weeks, we'll discuss increasing the dosage to a therapeutic level. I trust my doctor. He's been my psychiatrist for six years. I'm still a bit nervous.
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Jun 2, 2019 04:46
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Chokes McGee posted:I have a lot of things to say about this (I.e. gently caress cops) but this isn’t the right thread. Yeah, I guess I used a lot of words to say "Don't trust cops"
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Jun 2, 2019 06:16
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mekyabetsu posted:Well, I have a prescription for speed now. it sounds like you have a need a need  for speed
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Jun 2, 2019 06:49
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Chokes McGee posted:it sounds like you have a need when you take adderall is everything like this? https://youtu.be/LrjN0D2pFbQ
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Jun 2, 2019 06:59
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Chokes McGee posted:it sounds like you have a need If taking Adderall leads to me having totally straight not gay (seriously no homo) fun with my also straight, muscled, sweaty friends, then it’ll all be worth it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HNR_HofJ_Fs
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Jun 2, 2019 16:25
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i was heavily dependent on adderall for a decade. happy to steer you towards or away from taking it. for real though, it had a material impact on improving my situation but it also controlled my life. it’s not heroin by a long stretch but take it seriously. i still take 5-10mg as needed but never more. DONT THREAD ON ME has issued a correction as of 17:28 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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Jun 2, 2019 17:23
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When it comes to drugs that I've actually abused in my life, they've always been depressants and sedatives, never stimulants. I mean, at some of the lowest points of my life, I railed addys, but it was just so I could stay up longer and keep drinking. I don't buy the 12 stepper idea that being addicted to one substance means you have to steer clear of every drug that you could possibly abuse. Cocaine does nothing for me. I loving hate taking opiates. Caffeine makes me kinda sick. I have a brain that's prone to addiction, but the fact of the matter is, I don't like stimulants. However, if I can get a positive, therapeutic effect from the lowest possible dose of adderall, then I'll be happy. I took my 5 mg about an hour ago. I feel nothing. I guess that's a good thing. mekyabetsu has issued a correction as of 18:47 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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Jun 2, 2019 18:41
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:long shot but has anyone ever read a good book on relationships, specifically communication? my ~socialist girlfriend~ want to improve our relationship but all these books seem very liberal. Crucial Conversations it’s got a lot of examples from the workplace, but I found it very useful in developing better communication strategies for hard conversations, which in turn let me sometimes have them before things snowballed. also helped me not dive into a pit of despair at the first sign that I had disappointed anyone in some way
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Jun 2, 2019 18:45
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mekyabetsu posted:When it comes to drugs that I've actually abused in my life, they've always been depressants and sedatives, never stimulants. I mean, at some of the lowest points of my life, I railed addys, but it was just so I could stay up longer and keep drinking. I don't buy the 12 stepper idea that being addicted to one substance means you have to steer clear of every drug that you could possibly abuse. Cocaine does nothing for me. I loving hate taking opiates. Caffeine makes me kinda sick. I have a brain that's prone to addiction, but the fact of the matter is, I don't like stimulants. However, if I can get a positive, therapeutic effect from the lowest possible dose of adderall, then I'll be happy. yeah it's complicated. i really needed, it gave me confidence and focus that i'd never had and desperately wanted, so i was instantly hooked. i was able to use it to break into the software industry and build a career that had seemed like an impossibility before the drug. it's really hard to break away from something when your livelihood depends on it. it's also no coincidence that getting hooked on adderall coincided with my liberalization.
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Jun 2, 2019 18:52
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Subjunctive posted:Crucial Conversations thanks, will def take a look. also, someone sent me this which looks real good too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_behavior_therapy
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Jun 2, 2019 18:54
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:thanks, will def take a look. one challenge I had with both that book and “Getting to Yes” (also helpful) is that I have a hard time recruiting the intellectual parts of my brain when I’m in a strong emotional context, so I very often had to use it by going back an hour later, apologizing, and asking to have the conversation again same issue with CBT techniques, really: I can break down and reframe those distorted thoughts like a champ, ten minutes after I really needed to getting ADHD treatment that works did make that stuff a bit easier, though
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Jun 2, 2019 18:59
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Ever have those moments where you just incredibly tense, just wound up with adrenaline, just too many feelings packed in too small of a space? But despite all of the energy, it's directionless? Everything seems pointless, and trying to accomplish anything just ends in frustrated rage. All I can do is sit on the couch in this intense stew of feelings and wait for it to wear off, compounded by guilt that I should be doing something, everything you do is late and wrong, and eventually you'll let everyone down and die alone. I'm trying not to drink, but I just don't know what to do.
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Jun 4, 2019 02:57
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are there any good resources for dysthymia? I just feel like i swing from obsession to obsession because the time in between them i feel like a plank of wood.
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Jun 4, 2019 03:19
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Impermanent posted:are there any good resources for dysthymia? I just feel like i swing from obsession to obsession because the time in between them i feel like a plank of wood. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists
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Jun 4, 2019 04:35
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things aren't perfect but what is. therapy has saved my loving life
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Jun 4, 2019 04:59
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FactsAreUseless posted:Like all pop psych magazines it's not great, but Psychology Today does have one fantastic resource: a huge searchable therapist database. You can search by location, school of treatment (for instance, if you wanted CBT or DBT specifically), disorders they work with, even whether they're LGBT-friendly. Each page has a description written by the therapist, pricing and insurance info, and whether they're taking new patients. IDK how up-to-date it's kept but it's a good place to start. Psychology Today's therapist list has been the gold standard in my opinion. Just make sure you ask if they cover your insurance, or if you don't have any, how much a session runs.
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Jun 4, 2019 05:38
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Frog Act posted:so I got some good news today - the head of the school of social work where I applied for a position in Admissions and got through the interview process called to offer me the position. I definitely care and congrats. That legit makes me happy.
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Jun 4, 2019 08:59
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DrPossum posted:I definitely care and congrats. That legit makes me happy. thank u friend, I was just feeling kind of down about how nobody I know seems to care at all about how I’m doing. I saw one “friend” who I kinda don’t like anymore and he spent an hour and a half talking about his CBD business plans before asking me what I’d been doing in the last two months he’d been busy (his brother was my sole source for weed and I’m still mad as gently caress they both ghosted me for months, and last year he refused to pay me the $150 he owed me for dog sitting because he paid me the first half before he left and “I got to go ham on his weed” by smoking a bowl while watching his four dogs and two cats at two separate houses for a week and a half) and when I told him I found a job, he didn’t even ask what it was before he started talking about CBD again. then I told my other “friend” from grad school I had gotten a full time job so I couldn’t volunteer at the library where she works anymore and she didn’t even ask what the job was, she just said “congrats but that’s super sad though!” which was baffling and kinda rude everyone else I know doesn’t even bother anymore so I didn’t even tell them and it sort of underlined how I basically have no social group anymore, which has me feeling a little sad. I’m hoping I can meet some people at work and stuff, and now that I have a job I’ll be able to go out places and try to meet ladies on tinder and stuff at least I guess. anyway I really do appreciate it this thread is helpful as heck and it’s nice to know goons will read and acknowledge this boring E/N crap
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Jun 4, 2019 15:16
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Thinking about getting an emotional support doggo, after my therapist suggested it and offered to write a letter. Will ruminate on this over burgs.
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Jun 4, 2019 16:18
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Addamere posted:Thinking about getting an emotional support doggo, after my therapist suggested it and offered to write a letter. Will ruminate on this over burgs. We have three cats and most apartments only allow two. At some point we should probably designate our oldest as an emotional support cat since she mysteriously appears and starts purring in your lap the instant she senses you're upset.
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Jun 4, 2019 16:35
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My one dog has ptsd and recognizes the signs, so when I'm having an episode he will move heaven and earth to get to me and lick my face until I feel better.
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Jun 4, 2019 16:49
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well a few weeks of the sertraline and i have less of that self-critical voice in my head. i think i'll stick with a half pill a day though because i was getting a little sleepy the couple days i tried a full pill. i only ad one coffee those days too, tryin to cut down, but eesh i guess i cant right now
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Jun 4, 2019 17:31
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got any sevens posted:well a few weeks of the sertraline and i have less of that self-critical voice in my head. i think i'll stick with a half pill a day though because i was getting a little sleepy the couple days i tried a full pill. i only ad one coffee those days too, tryin to cut down, but eesh i guess i cant right now Have you tried taking it at night instead of in the morning? Despite my doctor's insistence it's activating, sertraline used to knock me out, too.
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Jun 4, 2019 17:43
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Frog Act posted:one step closer to securing my diagnosis of terminal failsonitis. This is a good question and just kind of want to throw this out there for others, how do you handle working? Like I've been consistently employed 14 years but I always feel like I'm on the razor's edge of getting fired and eventually I just start doing shittier and shittier and at this point I don't know if I'm capable of holding down a job, tl:dr how do you do it
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Jun 4, 2019 17:49
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Mordor She Wrote posted:This is a good question and just kind of want to throw this out there for others, how do you handle working? Like I've been consistently employed 14 years but I always feel like I'm on the razor's edge of getting fired and eventually I just start doing shittier and shittier and at this point I don't know if I'm capable of holding down a job, tl:dr how do you do it Yeah, the constant "depressed can't leave bed/house -> late to work -> anxious I'll get canned for it -> depression increases -> etc." cycle blows. If it's really keeping you up at night, you may want to consider disclosing to HR so you can get accommodations under the ADA. As always, it depends on how scummy your HR is. Also, watch for burnout. You can burn out at high turnover jobs easily, even without mental illness. I don't really know how to combat it, but maybe being mindful will help you treat yourself or take an occasional day off when you need it.
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Jun 4, 2019 18:22
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Chokes McGee posted:Have you tried taking it at night instead of in the morning? Despite my doctor's insistence it's activating, sertraline used to knock me out, too. well the first night i took it i could only sleep for an hour, so i took that as a sign it was an upper. doesnt have that effect anymore, but its just that i need a nap after like 8 hours of being awake, instead of being able to stay up all day. but honestly i've been getting afternoon catnaps when i can for a year now, it just sucks on the days when im too busy for one
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Jun 4, 2019 18:35
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Goon Danton posted:My one dog has ptsd and recognizes the signs, so when I'm having an episode he will move heaven and earth to get to me and lick my face until I feel better.  doggos are the best
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Jun 4, 2019 18:37
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Chokes McGee posted:Yeah, the constant "depressed can't leave bed/house -> late to work -> anxious I'll get canned for it -> depression increases -> etc." cycle blows. If it's really keeping you up at night, you may want to consider disclosing to HR so you can get accommodations under the ADA. As always, it depends on how scummy your HR is. does depression/anxiety/mild autism count under the ADA?
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Jun 4, 2019 19:08
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Mordor She Wrote posted:This is a good question and just kind of want to throw this out there for others, how do you handle working? Like I've been consistently employed 14 years but I always feel like I'm on the razor's edge of getting fired and eventually I just start doing shittier and shittier and at this point I don't know if I'm capable of holding down a job, tl:dr how do you do it i have to admit I don’t know how this works in the US but have you ever been fired or formally reprimanded for doing a bad job? because if not, then you are probably doing fine (ie just ok/average) and the razors edge feeling is more your anxiety/sadbrains telling you should be worried. being consistently employed for 14 years seems to me an indication that you are probably ok?
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Jun 4, 2019 20:26
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:long shot but has anyone ever read a good book on relationships, specifically communication? my ~socialist girlfriend~ want to improve our relationship but all these books seem very liberal. Only gently caress in accordance with the principals of people's war
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Jun 4, 2019 21:03
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Mordor She Wrote posted:does depression/anxiety/mild autism count under the ADA? Anything that's been formally diagnosed by a reputable doctor should be covered. Whether or not your employer will respect the ADA and/or you have the resources to sue them if they don't, only you can know.
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Jun 4, 2019 21:15
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