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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
the i3 looks neat in a kid-with-cool-sneakers way

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Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Sagebrush posted:

the i3 is the car that is pooping out a second smaller car, with its own taillights and everything


the i3 is one of many bmws that look like that iirc

TK-42-1 posted:

are you trying to tell me the i3 is a good looking car?

no just calling u ugly

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



i’ll have u know my mom thinks i am very handsome

Fiedler
Jun 29, 2002

I, for one, welcome our new mouse overlords.
the i3 also has a hipster mustache

bmw is very bad

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003
there’s a guy who goes to the diner across from where I work that uses his McLaren and Ferrari 458 no matter the weather. snow, salt, dude drives those cars.

I mean, he deserves the guillotine, but I give him props for that.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

there’s a guy who goes to the diner across from where I work that uses his McLaren and Ferrari 458 no matter the weather. snow, salt, dude drives those cars.

I mean, he deserves the guillotine, but I give him props for that.

so what does he do, keep alternating them because the other is in the shop?

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1134578518841470976

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



yes. tesla will destroy your brain

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I once almost ran over a mclaren in mill valley

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:

so what does he do, keep alternating them because the other is in the shop?

a friend’s dad had two jaguars for that very reason

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

AlbieQuirky posted:

a friend’s dad had two jaguars for that very reason

That sounds like too few to cope with that issue

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc
I saw my first i3 recently

I ran over to see the model name because i had to know what that hideous car was

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

2018 BMW i3 Eats Some Broccoli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuNRzo9REH8

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

I3 bad, get Hyundai or Kia hybrid instead.

The best part about the I3 is the factory production video imo.

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

Combat Theory posted:

I3 bad, get Hyundai or Kia hybrid instead.

The best part about the I3 is the factory production video imo.

yah those are some pretty production shots for sure

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

eschaton posted:

Ferrari was the original “you can’t afford to drive one until you can afford to own three” car
Britsh cars of any period would like a word.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
who are you trying to impress if you think you can't drive an ugly car?

i had a blue 2001 opel agila until it broke a year ago.

look at this thing, hell yes:

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

SA: automakers only make loving stupid cars that appeal to status-symbol-seeking boomers

BMW: makes utilitarian (PH)EV that does not look like a status symbol

SA: automakers only make loving stupid goofy looking cars

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

Wheany posted:

who are you trying to impress if you think you can't drive an ugly car?

i had a blue 2001 opel agila until it broke a year ago.

look at this thing, hell yes:


these are legit good

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Endless Mike posted:

i did this on my dad's car as a child, but it was a manual, so there's no parking pawl, and it rolled backwards and almost hit another car, but i managed to pull the parking brake in time

You put a manual in gear (reverse or first gear depending on the incline) when parked and off so it doesn't move even without the parking break.

Fiedler
Jun 29, 2002

I, for one, welcome our new mouse overlords.

Lord Stimperor posted:

SA: automakers only make loving stupid cars that appeal to status-symbol-seeking boomers

BMW: makes utilitarian (PH)EV that does not look like a status symbol

SA: is... is that car giving birth?

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

evil_bunnY posted:

Britsh cars of any period would like a word.

“avoid” is a word

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

Lord Stimperor posted:

SA: automakers only make loving stupid cars that appeal to status-symbol-seeking boomers

BMW: makes utilitarian (PH)EV that does not look like a status symbol

SA: automakers only make loving stupid goofy looking cars

the bmw i3 was made to be extremely recognizable and its a bmw so

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Lord Stimperor posted:

SA: automakers only make loving stupid cars that appeal to status-symbol-seeking boomers

BMW: makes utilitarian (PH)EV that does not look like a status symbol

SA: automakers only make loving stupid goofy looking cars

Problem with the I3 is that it is a serial hybrid, aka a range extender. The concept for these is pretty bad because if you plan on running any significant distance on the petrol engine you'll suffer huge efficiency losses because the entire mechanical power of the engine needs to be transformed into electrical power and then back to mechanical power, whereas parallel hybrids source the mechanical power directly through the drivetrain to the wheels at minimal losses.

A serial hybrid or range extender is like training wheels for a first time BEV driver and no one should ever use the combustion engine, it is essentially dead weight.


E: I just bought a 2003 Nissan Almera. Fight me on average looking utilitarian vehicles.


Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jun 2, 2019

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
what about diesel electric locomotives :colbert:

Well, outside of just really replacing steam locomotives because they require a fraction of the crew and maintenance

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

Wheany posted:

who are you trying to impress if you think you can't drive an ugly car?

i had a blue 2001 opel agila until it broke a year ago.

look at this thing, hell yes:


It’s like the car from the inbetweeners

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

lancemantis posted:

what about diesel electric locomotives :colbert:

Well, outside of just really replacing steam locomotives because they require a fraction of the crew and maintenance

1. Large scale diesels have a very narrow performance band, they are optimized for a small rpm range and will suffer significant losses in power and efficiency if operated outside that band. Same point why large trucks have 16+ gear transmissions.

2. Locomotives have a much lower power to weight ratio than a truck or car, so the amount time and energy spent unde "slip" conditions prevents any kind of friction based clutch to be used. Some locomotives use torque converters and classic automatic transmissions, but torque converters are very very inefficient (albeit wear-less) during slip operation.

3. Depending on the cart configuration you can have motors on every axle, distributing electricity to axle motors is a lot more convenient than mechanical power.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

lancemantis posted:

what about diesel electric locomotives :colbert:

Well, outside of just really replacing steam locomotives because they require a fraction of the crew and maintenance

Turns out electric motors are great at low-end torque.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Combat Theory posted:

E: I just bought a 2003 Nissan Almera. Fight me on average looking utilitarian vehicles.




Ah, a gray nissan almera, a.k.a 50 percent of cars on finnish roads

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1135185551114493952
lol what

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



The worst loving timeline...

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



if that cars going to kill you you might as well enjoy the ride

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
I think I want to get one of the Subaru Hatchbacks, whichever one is smallest I guess?

:newfap:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Schadenboner posted:

I think I want to get one of the Subaru Hatchbacks, whichever one is smallest I guess?

:newfap:

The Justy

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Thou shall not buy Subaru below the Impreza.

They also make em with boxer diesels which is a one-of-a-kind thing in the automotive world.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

I want the Baja to come back

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
“Pre-Collision Breaking” is the lidar thing that’s hilariously easy to remotely trigger right?

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Combat Theory posted:

Problem with the I3 is that it is a serial hybrid, aka a range extender. The concept for these is pretty bad because if you plan on running any significant distance on the petrol engine you'll suffer huge efficiency losses because the entire mechanical power of the engine needs to be transformed into electrical power and then back to mechanical power, whereas parallel hybrids source the mechanical power directly through the drivetrain to the wheels at minimal losses.

A serial hybrid or range extender is like training wheels for a first time BEV driver and no one should ever use the combustion engine, it is essentially dead weight.


E: I just bought a 2003 Nissan Almera. Fight me on average looking utilitarian vehicles.




i thought the range extender was just an option

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
kinda wnat an i3 or some CNG vehicle

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Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Vomik posted:

i thought the range extender was just an option

that is correct, i have not seen one without the Extender however and you dont gain any battery capacity by dropping it. BMW doesnt offer it any longer in certain markets with the newest version though (training wheel aspect etc)

Silver Alicorn posted:

kinda wnat an i3 or some CNG vehicle

i regulary gain flak for calling CNG the only sustainable Long Range Technology that doesnt involve advanced synthesis of Hydrocabrons. It is pretty much an inevitable technology due to the ease of converting CO2 exhaust into Methane for Large scale energy accumulation (as opposed to building a few kilotons of fast aging, non recicleable batteries for the same purpose) as well as due to its large scale production in biogas reactors (No poo poo! Energy!)

Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jun 2, 2019

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