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Binary Badger posted:Avoid USB3 hubs as Thunderbolt ops are offloaded to a separate processor whereas the USB3 ops will suck CPU cycles. Which TB hub is best?
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The one Proteus Jones mentions, the CalDigit TB3 Plus is the best, most reliable in my experience. After that the Kensington, Belkin ones. Glyph, a brand who I know a lot of production people use, just came out with a TB dock that includes an NVMe slot you can stick an M.2 into that provides dedicated disk space that will transfer at 1500 MB/sec to the laptop..
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Binary Badger posted:Boy, the last few days before a WWDC keynote are excruciating. If Apple doesn't at least give us a preview of the new Mac Pro there's going to be a lot of pissed people who are finally going to throw up their arms and make the HP and Dell workstation market a fuckton richer. My late 2013 rMBP is finally making GBS threads itself and Monday is my last hope with Tim Apple
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Binary Badger posted:The one Proteus Jones mentions, the CalDigit TB3 Plus is the best, most reliable in my experience. After that the Kensington, Belkin ones. Just one caveat for that one. It does *not* have HDMI. You can only hook into a monitor via TB3 (TB/TB2 with an adaptor) or DisplayPort. Mine hooks into an LG 34UM88C-P via DisplayPort. I also send audio over that connection as well (that monitor has really good speakers)
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Binary Badger posted:Upgrading an existing system or starting fresh? Starting fresh. The firmware was upgraded successfully. I managed to get Sierra to install,  e: OK, I seemed to have fixed that by signing in to my App Store account. Lazyhound fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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enojy posted:I'm ever-so-slightly expecting a "HomePod mini" that doubles as a cheaper, less impressive speaker, and a mesh router solution. Combining a Bluetooth speaker with a wifi extender sounds like a lovely idea, though. Don't they operate around the same band spectrum?  I’m wondering if/when they’ll come out with a new Beats Pill to essentially be a portable HomePod (built in Siri, streaming, etc).
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Lazyhound posted:Starting fresh. The firmware was upgraded successfully. I managed to get Sierra to install, I too am hoping for some AMD-Action tomorrow
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Binary Badger posted:Boy, the last few days before a WWDC keynote are excruciating. If Apple doesn't at least give us a preview of the new Mac Pro there's going to be a lot of pissed people who are finally going to throw up their arms and make the HP and Dell workstation market a fuckton richer. This poo poo happens every year. 'Pro' users piss and moan and continually threaten to go buy a Dell, like a neckbeard threatening Microsoft to switch to Linux. At this point I think they just fetishize victimhood instead of buying whatever system they need for 'pro' work, and every product announcement becomes a poo poo-flinging about how Apple 'abandoned their users' e: can't wait for the salty comments on MacRumors when Tim Apple comes on stage and says WWDC will be focused on software
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I'm as interested to see what Apple puts out as anyone else, but 'pro' users have to be the most obnoxious consumer base You never hear people go "I bought a Dell a few years back to replace my Mac Pro since the upgrade schedule was slower than I wanted, but I'm excited to see if Apple is releasing something new for the Pro market when I upgrade" It's always "A$$LE HATES its PRO USERS and if they don't release new PRO hardware for another six or seven years, I'm definitely buying a DELL and DELETING MY MACRUMORS ACCOUNT"
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PRADA SLUT posted:I'm as interested to see what Apple puts out as anyone else, but 'pro' users have to be the most obnoxious consumer base die a hero, or live long enough to become micro$oft
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PRADA SLUT posted:A$$LE Please tell me people don't actually type this.
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PRADA SLUT posted:I'm as interested to see what Apple puts out as anyone else, but 'pro' users have to be the most obnoxious consumer base Weird how the hackintosh scene kicked into high gear after the trash cans
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magiccarpet posted:Weird how the hackintosh scene kicked into high gear after the trash cans https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=hackintosh Weird how the 'high gear' was a tiny initial blip and then dissolved, leaving people still pissing and moaning year-over-year about the same thing
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I'm actually sensibly chuckling at anyone buying a Mac desktop in tyool 2019. Mac OS isn't THAT great, and almost any pro-level software almost certainly has a Windows version, too. You just have to spend outrageous amounts of money for a Mac desktop and for what...design of the tower? If you're really a pro user why do you even care? Laptops are a different story, since the hardware is much more tightly integrated with the day to day experience. But like, are people seriously buying $20k Mac desktops to run iPhoto? You know Lightroom runs on Windows now, right?
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Because Windows sucks poo poo and I refuse to beta test Microsoft's awful OS
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forbidden dialectics posted:I'm actually sensibly chuckling at anyone buying a Mac desktop in tyool 2019. Mac OS isn't THAT great, and almost any pro-level software almost certainly has a Windows version, too. You just have to spend outrageous amounts of money for a Mac desktop and for what...design of the tower? If you're really a pro user why do you even care? Until Desktop PC displays are widely available with a 5K+ resolution the iMac will have the best display on the market available to most people. For several product generations now, Apple’s smartly kept their display prices high so buyers are encouraged “to get a desktop computer thrown in for a few hundred”. And now the $1400 5K LG display’s been discontinued anyway.
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Last Chance posted:Because Windows sucks poo poo and I refuse to beta test Microsoft's awful OS I use Windows 10 day in and day out. It is absolute horse poo poo. Spent the end of my week hand copying a ton of data between Excel sheets because OneDrive is garbage and somehow days and days worth of version history got corrupted for ~reasons~. EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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forbidden dialectics posted:I'm actually sensibly chuckling at anyone buying a Mac desktop in tyool 2019. Mac OS isn't THAT great, and almost any pro-level software almost certainly has a Windows version, too. You just have to spend outrageous amounts of money for a Mac desktop and for what...design of the tower? If you're really a pro user why do you even care? Hi. I run a publishing business and need Mac OS only software to do it at the highest level. If anything, the iMacs are the best computers Apple currently make. Hell, I’d be more tempted to run my business with an iMac and a thinkpad carbon for my portable needs. I won’t, and will be buying a 2015 MacBook Pro this month for my laptop.Some of us know plenty about windows and still will pick macs because they are the best for what we do.
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PRADA SLUT posted:I'm as interested to see what Apple puts out as anyone else, but 'pro' users have to be the most obnoxious consumer base the problem is the enthusiasts who imagine there's a pro market for osx on apple hardware but the reality is that the pro market is already on niche hardware apple won't produce, they're connecting to some data center with any consumer laptop or they're fine with a quad core i7 and any random modern gpu what could possibly satisfy the "pro" market that apple can reasonably produce? a dual socket xeon workstation with two vega gpus running in crossfire? nobody except apple partisans wants that
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If Apple makes up with Nvidia and ships something that runs CUDA they'll probably avoid scaring off their last big high powered customer base (scientific/calculation customers) who are nursing along cMP boxes or hackintoshes to run CUDA and are stuck on 10.13 cause Apple is being dumb about certifying drivers.
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kefkafloyd posted:If Apple makes up with Nvidia and ships something that runs CUDA they'll probably avoid scaring off their last big high powered customer base (scientific/calculation customers) who are nursing along cMP boxes or hackintoshes to run CUDA and are stuck on 10.13 cause Apple is being dumb about certifying drivers. this is what the "pro" crowd actually want (even if they don't admit it/realize it). an i9 k series processor and a 2080ti that they can pull and replace with a 3080ti in three years. i think there's zero chance apple ship anything like that
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LionArcher posted:Hi. I run a publishing business and need Mac OS only software to do it at the highest level. If anything, the iMacs are the best computers Apple currently make. Hell, I’d be more tempted to run my business with an iMac and a thinkpad carbon for my portable needs. I won’t, and will be buying a 2015 MacBook Pro this month for my laptop.Some of us know plenty about windows and still will pick macs because they are the best for what we do. \/  \/ Seems reasonable to me. Then again, I'm the guy who bought a MacBook for gaming, soooo
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PRADA SLUT posted:https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=hackintosh Well yeah, hackintoshes are really caused by the overpricing and the lack of an xMac (standard PC tower components for cheap). The Mac Pro is laughably expensive, has the wrong CPUs and the wrong GPUs for 90% of users, plus its aimed at business users who can’t be pirating their OS.
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I'd consider windows, but Hi-Dpi/Retina support on Windows is still, still abysmally bad. That's no beuno. I'm a food photographer by trade, so most of my apps are cross platform, but multiple different res displays continues to be a hurdle Windows cannot get over elegantly.
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forbidden dialectics posted:\/ I have a headless windows computer in my closet that I just stream from using Parsec / Steam. It gives me the form factor and portability of the laptop, but allows me to use game-specific hardware on a portable device. I was doing some ~scientific calculations~ the other day and am provisioning an EC2 instance to use as a cluster to run higher-demand things on, from my 6-year-old MacBook Pro. No issues with it either, that's a big the direction 'pro' is moving on the scientific front anyway, and even a top-end Mac Pro with quad xeons or whatever can't outcompete something like AWS. The downside to AWS being that you pay hourly to use it, but in reality you just run numerical simulations at smaller-scale on your own hardware, then move it to a cluster for the 'actual' run anyway. PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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the talent deficit posted:the problem is the enthusiasts who imagine there's a pro market for osx on apple hardware but the reality is that the pro market is already on niche hardware apple won't produce, they're connecting to some data center with any consumer laptop or they're fine with a quad core i7 and any random modern gpu It depends on what you define as pro. You have one opinion, other pros have others.
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LionArcher posted:It depends on what you define as pro. You have one opinion, other pros have others. I define pro users as fat neckbeards who used macos 8 and have a flaccid 90's hatred of microsoft and complain about the lack of VGA ports the venn diagram should have linux users in the other circle and the middle part is ' also their phones have rubber cases an inch thick that attach to the outside of weaved leather belts and light stonewash jeans that balloon at the rear end, like a modern ignatius j reilly the other type of pro users are whiny dj's
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LionArcher posted:It depends on what you define as pro. You have one opinion, other pros have others. all i'm saying is that a lot of people talk about how apple needs to produce a pro machine but very few people can describe a pro they would purchase that apple can reasonably produce that's meaningfully different from the mac mini or the imac pro
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Apple used to sell a big dumb box. Every 6-12 months they updated it with better CPUs and GPUs as they became available. It was slightly overpriced but not absurdly so. Then they stopped doing this and people rightfully complained. (Then they did something even weirder, which was to do a big event about how issuing an apology to their pro users, but then they didn't actually bother to make the thing thy said thy would.)
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the talent deficit posted:all i'm saying is that a lot of people talk about how apple needs to produce a pro machine but very few people can describe a pro they would purchase that apple can reasonably produce that's meaningfully different from the mac mini or the imac pro How about they start by not charging $5,000 for a base spec that has no replaceable parts.
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So what do people want to be able to add? RAM Video card Hard drives SSD
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Is internal hard disks really a big need these days? Storage is all about huge external networked things on super fast connections.
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Bob Morales posted:So what do people want to be able to add? I think everything should be replacable if one wants (because we all cheap out on speccing out a new computer, sticker shock is just a fact of life), but I think ram and video card are the big ones.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Is internal hard disks really a big need these days? Storage is all about huge external networked things on super fast connections. Depends, a lot of small-time editors have a few bays of internal hard drives they pull footage from to work on, then just archive on the network. e: also, a lot of people are just data hoarders and will piss and moan if you can't stick like eight drives in it PRADA SLUT fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jun 3, 2019 |
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Will Apple sign off on NVIDIA cards? I can’t see them allowing your own SSD since the T2 chips And when they talk up the FASTEST SSD EVER I don’t see them putting measly SATA ports inside so people can hook up spinning rust RAM I can see. They do that with the current Pro and iMac
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Bob Morales posted:Will Apple sign off on NVIDIA cards? You know there's going to be someone who hooks up a 5400 RPM drive and the machine takes six minutes to boot and all you get are headlines about how "APPLES NEW $6K MAC PRO BOOTS SLOWER THAN $150 NETBOOK" and other people trying to start a class-action lawsuit for free iPads or something
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the talent deficit posted:all i'm saying is that a lot of people talk about how apple needs to produce a pro machine but very few people can describe a pro they would purchase that apple can reasonably produce that's meaningfully different from the mac mini or the imac pro They literally just want a tower that runs MacOS and lets them BYO GPUs/etc. That’s literally it. It doesn’t matter if they identify as software developers or filmmakers or scientists or influencers or whatever. They all just want Apple to make something like the cMP.
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The new Mac Pro is just a box the size of an AppleTV and it just streams a virtual computer from Apple. See, it fits in the theme of WWDC and software as a service and all that focus.
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PSA: if cMPs start going up for cheap tomorrow and you get Ideas, be aware everything about them is a little bit janky at this point. I just had to run to Best Buy to buy blank discs in TYOOL 2019 because installing Windows 10 from a USB drive messes up the bootrom, somehow? e: and it’s throwing up errors preventing me from installing anyway. Lazyhound fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Jun 3, 2019 |
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