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TheGreatEvilKing posted:He sounds like an angry, bitter isolated man. "Thankfully, my life is minimized to the point I no longer deal with these people. I'm not in school. I don't work in corporate America. I don't watch TV. I don't even watch the news." All these things I talk about are BS! And I know this because I refuse to interact with people and I also refuse to be informed. The internet is great but terrible because it gives people like him, the stay-at-home basement dwellers, and the anti-vax stay-at-home mom, the ability to blog their nonsense.
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piL posted:Arguments like these are how pathfinders get made. I demand an entire class based around holding, but not wielding a shield! Enough of this bullshit where characters are forced to pick and choose. I demand maximum possible grogness! My base attack bonus is 5 thacos and 2 save vs poison, paralyze and rods past a deactivated dual class and thats how I like it.
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If the shield is a bit heavy can you get your friend over to come carry it with you? If you use a trolley to carry the shield does it gain the benefits?
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Do I get the AC bonus if I’m surfing down a hill on the shield?
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change my name posted:Do I get the AC bonus if I’m surfing down a hill on the shield? Rule of cool says yes
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Jun 3, 2019 17:55
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change my name posted:Do I get the AC bonus if I’m surfing down a hill on the shield? Attacks from the ground? Yes obviously duh
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Jun 3, 2019 18:00
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Dex+Acrobatics to pull off the sicknasty nose grab towards the incoming attack.
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If we're utilising the centaur stack, does each centaur carrying the centaur who's carrying the shield also count as carrying the shield?
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Azza Bamboo posted:If we're utilising the centaur stack, does each centaur carrying the centaur who's carrying the shield also count as carrying the shield? If the shield bonuses stack, do they also stack if I carry round a stack of shields like dinner plates in a pile?
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Jun 3, 2019 18:30
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I feel the real problem here is that loving tweet. It's clear the dude is asking about just these edge cases, and Crawford gives a complete non-answer that clarifies nothing.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:31
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I don't know if this is a common thing people do but my DM ruled in my last session that my Paladin can use Lay on Hands to sober people up because alcohol could be considered a poison.
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Pendent posted:I don't know if this is a common thing people do but my DM ruled in my last session that my Paladin can use Lay on Hands to sober people up because alcohol could be considered a poison. I mean, if it worked in Good Omens I'm 100% in favor of divine magic sobering people up.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:42
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Omnicrom posted:I mean, if it worked in Good Omens I'm 100% in favor of divine magic sobering people up. I really ought to see that movie. I've got a bunch of plans to use them to mess with people. The initial context was to sober up a ship's captain to help us flee a city but now the sky is the limit.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:56
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A runaway paladin in full plate is careening down a hill, surfing on the back of a shield. At the base of the hill on the ground, tied to a five shields, are five red slaads, their faces obscured by five more shields secured like masks. Before you is a shield that, when thrown (Captain America-style), will knock the paladin off course into a black abishai wielding a shield in each hand with an additional Animated Shield active and currently orbiting its position. Assuming the paladin catches the shield that knocks them off course, what is the combined total AC of this moral dilemma? Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jun 3, 2019 |
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Jun 3, 2019 19:17
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In interesting news James Wyatt is back to help Keith Baker on the upcoming Eberron Book. https://twitter.com/aquelajames/status/1135365717929353217?s=21
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Jun 3, 2019 19:35
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And our dreams of competent game design are forever crushed.
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:And our dreams of competent game design are forever crushed. Are Wyatt and Baker bad at game design like Crawford and Mearls? I don't understand.
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Jun 3, 2019 19:48
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I feel the real problem here is that loving tweet. It's clear the dude is asking about just these edge cases, and Crawford gives a complete non-answer that clarifies nothing. Those tweets in general are the dumbest rule clarifications I've seen
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dex_sda posted:Those tweets in general are the dumbest rule clarifications I've seen It's why they are not official.
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's why they are not official. Good.
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's why they are not official. I doubt you meant this, but it sounds like you're saying they're not official because they are bad. Anyway, who are these people working on Eberron, and why is that bad?
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Gharbad the Weak posted:I doubt you meant this, but it sounds like you're saying they're not official because they are bad. I just googled and they are two of the three original authors of the 3.5e Eberron books so 
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Gharbad the Weak posted:Anyway, who are these people working on Eberron, and why is that bad? They are the two of the original authors. So I have no idea why that is bad.
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dex_sda posted:Those tweets in general are the dumbest rule clarifications I've seen Honestly the problem with Crawford is he is King poo poo of Non-Answer Mountain.
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Arthil posted:Honestly the problem with Crawford is he is King poo poo of Non-Answer Mountain. I’ve said it before, but his style of aggravating non-answer answers made total sense once I found out he has a background in theology.
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Jun 3, 2019 21:32
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Keith Baker is the guy who created Eberron. He's incredibly good. I know Wyatt helped write the Eberron setting book but I dunno his chops otherwise.
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I was a little sad when I saw the printed rule that characters can only weild/hold/equip/blabla one shield. I have some fond memories of people using dual shields in both tabletop and electronic RPGs
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Baker is fine. Wyatt is responsible for some dumb poo poo. Wyatt did 3.5 Book of Exalted Deeds.
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Arthil posted:Honestly the problem with Crawford is he is King poo poo of Non-Answer Mountain. Pretty much. Answering "Isn't it obvious???" is just useless.
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The #english on that tweet from Crawford just kills me. He can speak English just fine you loving shithead he’s asking a valid question about your turd rule set for this inexplicably popular turd game.
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Wyatt did 3.5 Book of Exalted Deeds. Quick, someone get Gwendolyn Kestrel and Duncan Scott on board
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Narsham posted:-snip- I don't know about you but if a Rogue pulled that off at my table I'd say having an awkward 6 pound hunk of wood and/or metal forcibly attached to your wrist would gently caress with your spellcasting a bit. At least make it so that hand can't be used for Somatic. But all this shield talk is a big spotlight on the problem a lot of people have of getting so focused on the wording and rules legality and lawyering that they don't stop and think what it would actually look like or how it's actually supposed to function. So why does a magic shield give you a +1 to AC? Is it making a magic forcefield all over your body, or is it just a better shield that can block better? I agree you can "Hold" a shield without "Wielding" it but how in the heck does that provide you any measure of physical protection? It's clearly just trying to power-cheese every little +1 someone can out of a system by exploiting language that was never intended to be airtight. I prefer the language being written this way and the rules set being easier to make custom content for than the explosion of tags, titles, and call-outs you need to make anything custom for the PF2 Playtest. The real question people should (read: Shouldn't) be asking is if the +1 applies to anyone holding it why can't the party all circle around putting one hand on the same shield and all benefit from the same benefit.
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This shield discussion perfectly highlights why game language is better than natural language imo. I get that in custom stuff you can just write whatever and have it be rules but it's still a bit annoying that the stock stuff is so loose.
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Wyatt from looking has some good books under his belt. Making one or two lackluster ones is nothing major.
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mango sentinel posted:Keith Baker is the guy who created Eberron. He's incredibly good. I know Wyatt helped write the Eberron setting book but I dunno his chops otherwise. James Wyatt was a good to middling designer for 3e, so he's going to be amazing at 5e.
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Wyatt's a credited author on 4e's PHB 1 and 2. He'll be fine.
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If I have a shield in a bag of holding (but am not holding the bag), do I gain the benefits of the shield? If I am holding the bag of holding? lol
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Ceros_X posted:If I have a shield in a bag of holding (but am not holding the bag), do I gain the benefits of the shield? If I am holding the bag of holding? lol
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I don't know if anyone in here will care, and I don't rememver seeing this linked in the thread befofe. A while back Brian W. Foster did a longform interview with Perkins about his life and career. No matter what you feel about him, watching that has got to be better than shield talk or rantings of a bitter old chud rear end in a top hat via his blog.
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Infinite Karma posted:Interesting question. Can the owner of the bag just claim the +1 by deed? If the King has a bag of holding with a magic shield and gifts it to the entire realm collectively, does everyone in the kingdom get +1 AC? Combine the peasant railgun concept with this. What if a million peasants in a line use their actions to pass the shield? Do they all get the +1 AC benefit AND get to throw an improvised weapon at the opponent?
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