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This game is very much reminding me of Barkley: Shut Up & Jam Gaiden and that's probably the highest praise I could ever offer.
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Yeah, when I was talking to an offsite friend about it a few days ago, I pretty much described it as the baseball version of Shut Up and Jam Gaiden. Except possibly even more ludicrously insane, in the best way.
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OK now I forgive the game for implying that Guards Guards was better than Night Watch edit: the real ones rep Small Gods anyway Mukaikubo fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Jun 4, 2019 |
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Mukaikubo posted:OK now I forgive the game for implying that Guards Guards was better than Night Watch Small Gods really is the best Discworld book.
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Today on The Closer: Local Baseball Manager DESTROYED by FACTS and LOGIC!
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American baseball UNDER THREAT by SOCIALISM!
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I really appreciate this LP because I don’t know poo poo about baseball. The game is still funny without context, but then again that video of the short manager going hog wild on the umpire, to ever escalating cheers was great
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Holy hell how did I miss this one until now. This is incredible.
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This game is just...amazing.
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Kemix posted:Today on The Closer: Local Baseball Manager DESTROYED by FACTS and LOGIC!  This game is just full of best characters.
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What I'm really enjoying is that this stuff proceeds by its own internal logic and consistent characterization. Somehow. Somehow a story about trying to fix a pitcher's game and teach him more pitches so he can close game 7 of the World Series by playing a magical A League of Their Own hentai novel with a weird philosopher actually flows.
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I've been silently following this and I'm amazed at both this game and how quickly this thread went gold.
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This is loving Also, it can't help but remind me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4SleSgaixs
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My only hope is that nobody in this thread ends up thinking that the real world Slavoj Zizek is worth listening to
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I actually do have a question, and it's baseball-related too! If a player has a high WAR, would there be a reason to replace him in a high-level game that isn't injury-related? "Cos the writeup in the last update seemed to indicate that it could happen. If this sounds dumb, my apologies; I know nothing about baseball, sorry.
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thetoughestbean posted:My only hope is that nobody in this thread ends up thinking that the real world Slavoj Zizek is worth listening to Indeed, no one and nothing is worth listening to, for words are merely physical sound vibrations, the imperfect facsimile of our thoughts which are the only phenomenon that is knowable to us. All words are lies and nothing is trustworthy. In this sense we can only trust that which intentionally tries to deceive us, for example, Historic Recreation Baseball Hentai.
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CommissarMega posted:I actually do have a question, and it's baseball-related too! If a player has a high WAR, would there be a reason to replace him in a high-level game that isn't injury-related? "Cos the writeup in the last update seemed to indicate that it could happen. If this sounds dumb, my apologies; I know nothing about baseball, sorry. Hey, don't apologize for asking questions. Any opportunity to help somebody understand baseball further is worth taking in this thread. Now, I assume to mean "high level game" to mean one single game with high stakes, like, say Game Two of the World Series, or Game Seven of the Championship Series (the level before the World Series). I'm not picking Game Seven of the World Series because that has its own rules. Anyway, yes, there are quite a few reasons why you would want to place a high WAR player on the bench. Let's just say we have a player worth, say, 5~7 WAR over a season. All-Star level. Why might we not want to use him in a quite important game? #1: Platoon splits. I could talk at length about platoon splits (and the game might force me to down the line), but for now, let's keep it simple. Remember that at one point, I said to just accept that pitchers have an advantage over hitters with the same handedness. So lefty pitchers have an advantage over lefty hitters, and the same with righties. Well, with some hitters, this is ridiculously pronounced. Take for instance a guy called Jim Thome. Dude's a great hitter. A Hall of Famer. Terrifying to pitchers... well, right-handed pitchers. Thome is a lefty, and he has insane platoon splits. Against righties, he has a slash line of .292 / .426 / .608, which is very impressive. Against lefties, he has a slash line of .238 / .340 / .427, which is decidedly less impressive. So, if you have a right-handed hitter on your roster that can play the same position as Thome and who doesn't have as much of a problem hitting lefties, you might use him instead of Thome when the starting pitcher for the opposing team is slated to be a left-hander, because the results will probably just be better. And hey, if the pitcher gets pulled early and a right-hander comes in instead, you can still substitute Thome in. #2: Rest. This is why I excluded Game Seven of the World Series. Depending on your outlook, it might be better to give your star player a day of rest from a critical game in the hopes that this will aid his performance in an even more critical game down the line. So of course, it doesn't help you when you lose your last Championship Series game because you rested your 42 year old hitter who is somehow still excellent, but if you do win it, you will have a rested and possibly even better performing hitter at your disposal. This is also very important for pitchers. There's a thing called a Wild Card Game, which is where teams that don't win divisions but have the most wins out of the rest of the teams get a chance to get into the playoffs. This is a one-game playoff, and while you'd think you'd use your ace starting pitcher here, some choose to use their SP2 or so, believing that they can still win the game with him and then have their ace ready to use multiple times in the next series (so for instance, he could pitch Game One and Game Four in a five game series with normal rest instead of pitching, say, Game Three and nothing else if he had started the wild card game). #3: Injury risk. I guess you excluded injuries, but I think the risk of injury is something different. This is something that has mainly come up in recent years with the increased focus on pitcher injuries. The thing with pitchers is that it's really easy to gently caress your arm up. And there's a chance that you really gently caress your arm up and then that's it, kiss your career goodbye. So for instance, you have a starting pitcher that's like 21 years old, you recently called him up from the minor leagues. And he's been great for you, he's got like a 2.50 ERA, 4 WAR, that kind of stuff. But he's pitched 160 innings already and there's still a quarter of the season to play, so at the rate you're going, you're going to give him an ace pitcher's workload (about 210 innings) plus the postseason. It could be that he isn't used to that heavy workload and that it could cause damage to his arm that might really hurt his career. So you shut him down. You say "OK, I won't use this guy anymore, he's done for the season". Fans will probably get mad at you if your team's in the playoff hunt and could use the boost, but on the other hand, you're not further risking loving your young talent's arm up and preserving him for playoff hunts in the future. So it's a win now vs. win later thing. If you think your team will still compete for a playoff spot the next few seasons, it might make sense to shut your promising pitching prospects down after a certain workload. Then, of course, there's all the minor reasons why an ace player could be replaced during a game. One example from the Super-League that happened to me very neatly illustrates one of the problems you could face during a game. Oh, if you're wondering what the Super-League is, it's Smasher Dynamo's insane monument to LP commitment - it's basically a league using baseball simulation game Baseball Mogul 2013 where forum posters get to pick multiple historical teams (so, like the 1995 Boston Red Sox or the 1948 St. Louis Cardinals or whatever) and create a roster out of it, which then compete with the other posters' teams. It's great fun as long as you accept that you probably won't win (since given the construction of baseball, only one can win), and Smasher's writing is also great. So anyway, I was in the Sub-Par Championship Series, the Sub-Par League being the lower league of the Super-League, with my Hope's Peak Despair, in a game that has gotten to the ninth inning with my team down 2-3. The inning started off with Joe Jackson striking out, then Ted Goddamn Williams hit a double. After that, Paul Waner grounded out. So, the AI that takes care of ingame substitutions was faced with a dilemma. Ted Goddamn Williams can do many things, but he can't run. If the next batter hits a single, there's only a slim chance Williams makes it home from second base to tie the game. Since there's two outs, every hit is precious, and scoring should be prioritized. On the bench, I had Kenny Lofton, a decent hitter, but most importantly, very good at running. So, keep Ted Goddamn Williams in and hope he makes it home to tie the game, potentially having his elite bat later in the game, or put in Kenny Lofton as a pinch runner to make it more likely he makes it home to tie the game and keep the team alive, sacrificing Williams's hitting ability? The AI decided to put in Lofton. The next batter, Nap Lajoie, hit a single, and Lofton was able to run and score, tying the game. After that, Derek Jeter hit a fly out to end the inning, so there would be no second hit that could've sent Williams home. The game went into extra innings, and eventually, my team won, going on to win both the Championship Series and the World Series of the lower league without losing a single game. In the playoffs, small decisions have very large impacts.
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CommissarMega posted:I actually do have a question, and it's baseball-related too! If a player has a high WAR, would there be a reason to replace him in a high-level game that isn't injury-related? "Cos the writeup in the last update seemed to indicate that it could happen. If this sounds dumb, my apologies; I know nothing about baseball, sorry. In a high level game? Not really, no. Play your best players. But there’s lots of reasons why you might replace a player who is high WAR. All justifiable, some ethically abhorrent. 1.) Your player is a defensive butcher and you’re winning by like one run in the final inning. Might make sense to replace your great hitter who can’t field with someone who can’t hit but is a good fielder. After all, if your team prevents the opposition from scoring this inning, the game ends, and you’re never exposed to the fact you swapped out your great hitter. One of the MANY managerial blunders of the 2011 Texas Rangers cost them the World Series, for example. Their idiot manager left a defensive butcher in right field with a 7-5 lead in the 9th inning of the clinching game. Sure enough, a St. Louis Cardinals batter hit a catchable ball to right field, it wasn’t caught, and the Cardinals went on to win the game and the series. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UEEOZpdp9bo 2.) It’s an important game, but your win expectancy is already sky high, and you don’t like to save some wear and tear on your superstar. If you’re up 10-0 in the 7th or something, your team wins that game 99.9 percent of the time. Baseball is a 162 game season played in the summer. Players get worn down, and if you can steal a bit of extra rest, it marginally makes your team worse for the remainder of that game, but it’s presumably offset by having your star fresh for subsequent games. 3.) Your star is a pitcher, and you need offense. With extremely rare exception, pitchers are terrible hitters, and they have to bat in the National League (the American League has a different ruleset concerning pitchers hitting). If the score is, say, 3-3 in the 7th and you have a couple men on base, two out, and your pitcher batting, you have a higher probability of winning that game if you pinch hit. This removes the pitcher from the game, but lets you immediately substitute in a batter from your bench reserves. (In turn, that batter gets replaced the next inning since hitters are just as bad at pitching as pitchers are at hitting. This is one of the reasons relief pitchers like Mo exist.) 4.) The grossest one: you are trying to steal labor. Baseball players have a REALLY lovely labor agreement with ownership, where they don’t reach their full market value until they’ve played X amount of time in MLB. Thanks to the rise of analytics, it’s never been more clear that the best player should are also very young and tend not to have that level of service time. Thus, if you’re a front office, you are incentivized to bury your best players in the minors until such time that your event able to squeeze out an additional year of labor without the player hitting free agency. It’s evil and disgusting, and also endemic. This article is about the Cubs but literally EVERY team does it. http://bitterempire.com/kris-bryant-free-agency-baseball-labor-abuse-problem/
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thetoughestbean posted:My only hope is that nobody in this thread ends up thinking that the real world Slavoj Zizek is worth listening to Oh, God no, but he makes a hilarious jRPG character.
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CommissarMega posted:I actually do have a question, and it's baseball-related too! If a player has a high WAR, would there be a reason to replace him in a high-level game that isn't injury-related? "Cos the writeup in the last update seemed to indicate that it could happen. If this sounds dumb, my apologies; I know nothing about baseball, sorry. Yes! The most common example would be if you're a great pitcher, but you're late in the game and you've already thrown over a hundred pitches and there's a real good reliever who could replace you. So like Jacob deGrom last year won the Cy Young award, but only had 1 complete game because he'd pitch 7 or 8 of the 9 innings. This is a huge change from back in the day when pitchers just pitched complete games all the time, Old Hoss Radbourn finished every single one of his 73 starts in 1889. Even as late as the 1980s you'd see guys finishing more than half their starts, and as recently as a decade ago guys still had 10+ complete games a season (out of 30-35 starts a year). For a non-pitcher the most common reasons would be a pinch runner (e.g. you hit a single in a close game where one run will win it, but despite being a great hitter you're slow as molasses so a speedy but less good player takes your place) or defensive replacement (same deal, except you're in the field and you get pulled for the dude who's a defensive specialist). If a player is really great as a hitter you probably won't see them get pinch hit for, but if they're much better against right handed pitchers and not that great against left handed pitchers they might get pinch hit for. WAR isn't the be all and end stat, the defensive side of it especially tends to bounce around a bit from season to season and should be looked at over a couple-three years to smooth out the statistical noise, but it's a good baseline. Plus, even the "old" stats still have some use- it's hard to be an actually bad player if you hit .300 with 30 home runs and 100 RBI. You might not be as good as those numbers would make someone think, but you're still gonna be well above average. In that example there's 440 player seasons in history where a player had at least 30 dingers, 100 ribbies, and hit .300. Of those 440 seasons, only Dante Bichette's 1995 and 1996 seasons were below average according to WAR, and that's because he played in Colorado where your granny could hit 20 dingers in 600 at bats thanks to the thin air. All but a dozen of those 440 seasons were worth 3 WAR or better, and 3 WAR is a solidly above average but not great season. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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thetoughestbean posted:My only hope is that nobody in this thread ends up thinking that the real world Slavoj Zizek is worth listening to He has some good analysis in small doses, but it's like with his debate with Peterson showed: he needs a villain. Because without something to disagree with or lash out against, his philosophy becomes much more shallow. And he also never loving gives an alternative view, and tearing down others' ideas in philosophy is loving easy. In Talos Principle we had a character who did nothing but that. I really don't know why he pats himself on the back for that.
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Thanks to this LP, I went and downloaded then played the entire game within the course of two days and have no regrets. I look forward now to seeing you tackle the rest of it, and no doubt go over stuff that I missed or didn't understand. Also just wanted to throw out there that the first few notes of the main theme of the game keep making me think of The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks and it's overworld theme. I keep wanting to hum the latter now thanks to this game.
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Update IX - We Freed The World Of Zizek's Strange Anime Game. ♪ BGM: Closer's Theme ♫ So, last time, a whole bunch of stuff happened. But I guess we're now ready to get to Game Seven, now that Bobson has learned a new secondary pitch. We'd deleted the player character who had forced them to cater to his whims. More than that, we'd pulled one of the NPCs from the world to let her live her own life. I didn't understand how any of it worked, but Zizek assured me that it wouldn't disrupt reality... at least not anymore than anything else we did. I had to put all of that out of my head. The sun had risen, and we were less than twelve hours away from the beginning of game seven. I hadn't gotten any sleep, and hoped that once we returned to the clubhouse I could fit in a little nap before pre-game workouts. Little did I know that my journey was far from over.  Here we are, back at the clubhouse. Let's go talk to people.   What do you mean? Oh, you don't know? You should talk to coach.That doesn't sound good at all.   Yeah, sure. Thanks! Here, have this Dr. Pepper. I don't need it anymore.Looks like we're at the beginning of a trading chain. That'll be fun. Anyway, here's what all the other people have to say. I know that was a bad pitch, but this seems excessive... If you ask me, coach is being unreasonable. This sucks, but we've gotta do what we've gotta do. What sucks? Oh... Nothing. The good news is that you can relax and watch the game tonight. What are you talking about? You should go talk to coach.Well, I'm sure you can already work out what's happening here, since we already had a little bird tell us that something was happening. And by bird, I mean a Cardinal. And by Cardinal, I mean The Machine.  What the hell is everyone outside chatting about? They're apologizing to me and not for the things they do to piss me off. I've made a decision, Bobson. If we get that far, you won't be closing out Game 7. ♪ BGM: Moose ♫ Everyone in the media is calling for it after what happened last night. That was a awful pitch you threw. This is a terrible idea! Why are you making your managerial decisions based off of what people in the media say? The media are idiots! This is true. Besides, Bobson has learned a new pitch! He can throw a changeup now and he's more than ready to use it in a game situation. I'm sorry, Bobson, but this is just how it has to be. ... Just let us show you his new pitch! Trust us, it will change your mind. I do not believe that this is about pitching. I believe that this is about the pressures of society, which are far more difficult to change. He's right. You understand what Zizek is talking about? No, but he's right. Listen, any pitcher can blow a game. Even if Bobson is throwing Sandy Koufax's curveball, he might miss with his location and screw things up again. If he does, I'm toast, because everyone out there is acting like he needs to be pulled from the closer spot. Whereas if the new guy blows the game, I can't be second-guessed as much. That's a terrible way to manage! This is not happening. Don't freak out, Bobson! Being a "closer" is totally overrated. Often middle relievers face more high leverage situations. Ahhhh, don't make me think about facts right now! I'm too upset. And off he goes. Hey, where are you going?Bobson has left the party! Well that's not good. I do not believe that he took that news very well. Very observant, Zizek. What the hell? Did he just walk out on the team? It looks that way. This is unacceptable! Moose, and whoever the hell you two are, go and find him! I'm Kami. And I am a fixed position in space in which matter is slightly denser than-- I don't care! Find my pitcher! Ask around and figure out where he went and BRING HIM BACK! ♪ BGM: Kaminari ♫ I'll do it! Let's destroy some oppressive power structures with MATH! Seconded. Kami should be the leader in Bobson's absence. She just came into this world ten minutes ago! I will not take back my vote, as that would destroy the legitimacy of the election. A legitimate election is too rare and beautiful thing to let die for any reason, even this reason. Fine, Kami can be the leader. Now let's hurry up before Bobson gets too far. Coach is right, we should ask the other players what they think. Time to ask around. Here's what everybody has to say. Bobson? Oh yeah, he said he was going to go find something to make him even better. Another pitch? No, I think it was something chemical. Oh no, I think he's going to try steroids! Not that steroids are nearly the demon traditional writers make them out to be. How do you know anything about steroids? You're from 1943... a virtual 1943. Sabermagics.There is a lot of competition here, but I'm making the call - Kami is the best character in this game. Yeah, he definitely said something that sounded like PEDs. This isn't good... I asked Bobson where he was going and he said that "he knew where to go". Then he muttered something about a factory I think? I don't know... A factory, huh? Maybe he's going to seize the means of production! I hope so. I'm sad that Bobson is gone. I'm going to stuff my face with pizza. It's the only thing that keeps the pain away. Delicious pizza. I ain't got a clue where Bobson is. Bobson said something right before he left. He was trying to figure out why candy would make him a better player. Candy? Did he mean nose candy? Like cocaine? No, I don't think so. I think it was regular candy. Hmmm... He wants to find something that he thinks will make him a better player, and he was overheard saying something that sounded like PEDs. Moreover, another teammate heard him asking questions about why candy would improve his performance. None of this makes any sense! Good! Now you are understanding this world. Nothing makes sense. No, actually, it all fits together. Candy...factory...PEDs... Bobson heard all the buzz about PEDs, but misheard it since he's never been big on paying attention, and misinterpreted it because, well... sometimes he prefers to hear what he wants to hear. So he's been operating under the belief that PEZ was banned by MLB to prevent cheating. When, in fact, PEZ has simply lost popularity and largely disappeared during the same timeframe baseball banned PEDs. PEZ? As in the pill-like candy that preps children for a life dependant on small doses of pleasure-inducing chemicals given by the nodding head of authority? Yes, I guess that is what I mean. You're loving joking. You don't know Bobson like I do. It is remarkable that he even made it to adulthood. Nah, he's very intelligent when he wants to be, he just has trouble paying attention. So where has he gone? The abandoned PEZ factory in upstate New York, no doubt. Now that *is* a joke, right? No joke. It's not far, but we should hurry. Looking at the clock, we only have about fourteen hours until game time.I'm pretty sure we just time travelled right there. All right! On to the Pez Factory!   ♪ BGM: Pez Factory ♫ Oh man, it is going to be a hassle if we have to search this whole place. Hey, some noise is coming from that speaker over there! C'mon, Bobson, this is childish. You are literally throwing a tantrum. No, this is literally throwing a tantrum!We hear something shatter. What did you just break? I think it was a mould for Pez dispensers. Well, no big loss. You're better than this, Bobson! Come on out! No! I am not better than this! I won't come out until I'm named the closer again! This isn't the way to goabout any of this, Bobson. This only makes you look worse. You look like a petulant baby! I made my decision! You should know that to make a decision is tantamount to treason against yourself. I don't even know what that means! I never know what anything you say means!And another thing shatters. I guess there's no consoling him. What the hell are we going to do? Maybe we need to figure out a way to get his job back. If your coach is fixated on media narrative, maybe we can change the narrative before the game and he'll change his mind. We need to make the sportswriters and fans demand Bobson return to the closer role. Yeah! You do that! You make a good point, Kami, but how do we go about that? There is nothing more difficult to change than a narrative. We may as well sit upon the beach and command the tides to recede. Hm... I have an idea. What's the plan, Moose? A media narrative isn't so impossible to change, especially for a short time. We just need to harness the power of social media. We need to go to Twitter. Are you suggesting that we spend our time at a computer, typing words into the ether in the hopes that they have an effect on the world? If that is what you are suggesting, then you are a madman, and not the good kind. No, better than that. We need to go to Twitter headquarters and change the narrative at the source. Wait, there's a Twitter headquarters??? I thought that you didn't want to be part of the party, Bobson! If you want to join us, you can come right on out here! No! I just wanted to know if there is a Twitter headquarters. Of course there is. And we can go there and get into the system and alter the media narrative as we see fit. There areplenty of fans and reporters who know Bobson shouldn't lose his job. We make sure their tweets are seen and others are not. Once the media picks up on the new narrative, coach will re-install Bobson as the closer and all will be well. I don't know what Twitter is but this sounds great! As far as I know, it is like the telegraph, if the telegraph was pumped full of amphetamines and then suffered a massive head trauma. Yeah, that sounds about right. Well if you think it will be helpful in getting Bobson out of his funk, then that's good enough for me. Twitter here we come! How long until game time? Fourteen hours.So we just didn't lose any time at all going there. Man, time is weird. Great... ♪ BGM: Terminate ♫ Where in the name of Friedrich Nietzsche is that music coming from? That's Carlos Rodriguez's walkup music. But what is he doing here? More importantly than that, how can he make music play wherever he goes? How does he know that??? Kami, this is Carlos Rodriguez, better known as "The Machine". He's the one who hit the HR off of Bobson, putting us all in this mess. Though none of that explains why he's here, and not at the stadium with the rest of his team preparing for the game. I heard that Bobson lost the closer job, just like I predicted. And you came to gloat? Something like that. Leave Bobson alone! He's been through enough! No, he hasn't. And I think that's the problem. What the hell is that supposed to mean? It sounded like something I would say, and not in a good way. This man concerns me. Oh, who is this? Who am I? That is actually a good question, but not a question that we have time to discuss because there is a baseball game soon. However, all you need to know about me is that I am Bobson's friend, and that I will not let you harass him further. Bobson's friend? Fascinating. I don't think you really understand what is going on here. The entire world was watching him. Millions of eyes fixed upon his every move and he failed. His pain and inadequacy were broadcast across the globe. On some level, you should know the feeling, Moose. Though perhaps not so acutely... You... Despite all of that, despite everything that has happened in this world... I am Bobson's only friend. What? You don't understand yet. Your vision is too narrow. Take that back! If anything, my vision is considerably wider than it should be! Heh, I'm really getting under your skin, aren't I? You are a pompous, irritating man... And I will reveal that you are nothing but a boastful fool! Watch out, Zizek, he's defeated both Bobson and me... He's dangerous. Do not worry about me, Moose. This man knows nothing of philosophy. This will be simple. Now this is interesting... You aren't a pitcher. No I am not. A pitcher carries water, and I carry water for no one. You're being deliberately obtuse. That is what I do. If you figured it out so quickly, perhaps I should be careful. Come at me, Zizek. I will destroy you just like I destroyed Bobson. And maybe you will be smart enough to thank me. Call me a pessimist, but I don't think this is going to end well. Well, let's give it a shot. Zizek applies a Marxist critique! You are well paid for your efforts as a baseball player, are you not? Of course! I'm one of the best there is! How can you justify your salary when you know that others starve? There is no doubt that you are talented. There are no questions about whether you are able to perform your duties... but when it comes right down to it, you earn millions of dollars by playing a child's game. How can you accept that? Other men break their backs to simply eat. You play and you are wealthy beyond their wildest dreams. You're right. It's totally unfair. Among all the men in the world, it is clear that I do not objectively deserve my salary. Ha! But it's not so simple. Ultimately, there are thousands of people who pay lots of money to see me play at the stadium. There are even more people who sign up for cable television to watch my team. In a perfect world, all this money would to a better cause. But this isn't a perfect world. Baseball teams make hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Where should that money go? Should it go to the owners, who do not play the game? The fans do not watch the games for the owners. They do not buy ownership merchandise. They tune in to watch me and my teammates. And we're the ones who work--both in the games and in the offseason to keep in shape. So shouldn't we be the ones to reap the rewards? I suppose, in the practical sense, you are right. If someone *must* become wealthy off of baseball, it should be the players. You... You are right!Zizek lost the ability to use [Marxist Critique] against Carlos Rodriguez! Welp. Zizek applies a Kantian critique! No matter what you claim, you are clearly the villain of this story. Oh, really? How so? You have done nothing but impede us at every turn. We are trying to help Bobson return to the pitcher he once was before. Our goal is noble——the restoration of our friend--thus your obstruction is... clearly nothing less than immoral, against the righteous and so on, and so on. You're barking up the wrong tree. I am not a dog, and my reasoning is valid. There are purposes in this world which are clearly good. No matter what you believe, restoring the confidence of a man is unquestionably good. What if that man was a monster? Bobson is not a monster! No, but what if his success has dire consequences that even you are unable to predict? Would stopping him be immoral then? I do not know what you are talking about. He is a pitcher. A baseball player. How could regaining his confidence be bad? That's a good question, Zizek. But do you trust yourself to make that judgement call? Are you so certain about your own righteousness that you are unwilling to consider that you are advancing a negative cause? Some of the most evil men in history were sure that they were doing the right thing. Who is to say what happens if Bobson becomes a good pitcher again? I... I don't know. I guess nothing can be so black and white. You... You are right!Zizek lost the ability to use [Kantian Critique] against Carlos Rodriguez! WELP. Zizek applies a feminist critique! So, you are a baseball player like Moose and Bobson. Nice observation, Professor. Professional sports within the United States and much of the so-called "western" world is overtly masculine in orientation. Baseball, especially, finds itself awash with masculine imagery. This should be entertaining. The hitter is judged by his ability with the bat, a phallic object that he wields as an extension of his own manhood. Further, the pitcher is judged by his ability to penetrate the hitter's defenses, forcing his way past the hitter's resistance. Meanwhile, the only way the man can prevent himself from being penetrated is to wield the instrument of his own extended manhood. As such, the pitcher seeks to castrate the hitter, and feminize him in an act known as the "strikeout". Ah, but the best hitters know when to hold back. They do not wield their bat-- their extended manhood as you call it-- and they succeed by being passive... they succeed by taking a walk, by allowing the hypermasculine pitcher to attempt to overpower them and using that aggression to their advantage. The best hitters in baseball are as receptive as they are combative, and thus you are wrong. You... You are right!Zizek lost the ability to use [Feminist Critique] against Carlos Rodriguez! Zizek no longer has any critiques to use against Carlos Rodriguez! WELP.  ♪ BGM: Silence ♫ How... How is this possible? You are just a baseball player. How can you command such a presence in the field of philosophy? Once again Bobson surrounds himself with failures. That may be true, but so do we all! Truly all of mankind is made up of failures, so your point is both well taken and utterly meaningless. Stop playing word games to hide that you were defeated by me, Zizek. And good luck with whatever foolishness you get up to next. And he's gone... Shouldn't we chase after him or something? What would be the point? Zizek is right. It is clear now that only Bobson can defeat Carlos Rodriguez. We need to focus on getting him back in the game. Then we can worry about Rodriguez. We continue with our original plan to assault Twitter headquarters and force a media narrative returning Bobson to the closer position. Let's not use the word "assault." We are going there to talk. All speech is assault, dear Moose. Well, I'm glad defeat hasn't changed you.That'll be it for this update. Next time, we'll take a look at just what exactly Bobson is planning on doing in that factory.
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That's a very accurate description of Twitter.
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My only problem with this is that now we have achieved Twitter, I'm getting the feeling we're nearing the endgame. This game is just way too good.
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CommissarMega posted:My only problem with this is that now we have achieved Twitter, I'm getting the feeling we're nearing the endgame. This game is just way too good. Well, I did have the title character limit to work with. We still got a good amount of stuff to go.
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Carlos Rodriguez is a very talented man.
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CR...I think he might be the smartest man in this game. Bar. loving. None.
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Let's see how he handles Kami's Sabermagics.
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Jun 8, 2019 17:31
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PEZ own, goddammit
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ultrafilter posted:Let's see how he handles Kami's Sabermagics.
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Considering he's a professional baseball player who grew up with sabermetrics instead of a digital construct who learned about them from Bobson a couple hours ago, I'd give him the edge on that confrontation, yeah.
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I'm kind of enthralled by Carlos. He's really just a guy doing his job. Until he shows up here to help bobson. The hell?
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Carlos Rodriguez earning that Final Boss status. Actually he reminds me of Disgaea bosses a lot.
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Mzbundifund posted:Considering he's a professional baseball player who grew up with sabermetrics instead of a digital construct who learned about them from Bobson a couple hours ago, I'd give him the edge on that confrontation, yeah. But Kami knows saberMAGICS, not saberMETRICS. You gotta understand crumpets to understand cricket, is what I'm saying.
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Jun 8, 2019 19:55
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I think now, for the first time, I understand Smasher's portrayal of THE MACHINE in the Super League.
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This game is loving incredible, and even though I know a fair bit about baseball already the work this LP is doing to fill in all the gaps is amazing; it means I can expose people to this masterpiece who know nothing about the sport. Also, speaking as a fan of Zizek, while the game is maybe only 75% on accurately representing his philosophy as such, it nails the gestalt of the Zizek Experience.
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The gestalt of the Zizek experience right here.
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