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marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
never heard of marlon craft before today but this is p dope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqo-hyxjCYE

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Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
dunno I'm getting vibes like that super wack Joyner Lucas video about race
these racist fucks don't need understanding, they need a bullet in the head

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

that's like the opposite point of the video

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

cancel all of my loving meetings

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


marijuanamancer posted:

never heard of marlon craft before today but this is p dope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqo-hyxjCYE

i gently caress with this

maybe not the bothsidesing, but I get it

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i can see the both siding aspect but by doing so it shows how stacked the teams are, which i think is a valid point also

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

the only ever 'point of view song' that didnt make me eye roll is sing about me

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
what about this one made your eyes roll?

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
realizing marlon craft was white definitely threw me off but also T.I. tweeted it so

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

marijuanamancer posted:

what about this one made your eyes roll?

Humanizing the police obscures systemic critiques, the minimum of which are already considered politically untenable.

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
which systemic critiques does it obscure?

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
that was a lot of vocabulary to say not very much, thanks for making me parse it for no reason

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk
I'm speaking of systemic critiques of police in general. Have you not heard of any?

"What about the good cops?" These are sleight of hand tricks to avoid the issue.

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i mean this is demonstrating cops as gangs. there are no good gangs, unless i'm mistaken

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
like really what are you talking about. did you even watch

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch
It's not a big deal if people don't like the song

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
yeah thats fine

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk
Characterizing the police as a gang is idiotic, because they are backed by the state.

marijuanamancer posted:

like really what are you talking about. did you even watch

Yes, the premise is that the individual cop is only human and means well.

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i didnt get that premise at all. cops are a gang backed by the state is the premise i got from it

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

KVeezy3 posted:

Characterizing the police as a gang is idiotic, because they are backed by the state.

What? No it isn't. Those two things aren't related.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk
The police enforce the state's laws and gangs break the state's laws.

40 lbs to freedom posted:

the only ever 'point of view song' that didnt make me eye roll is sing about me

Remember when T.I. tried to do the T.I. vs T.I.P. thing? Ugh.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

You’d have to be dumb as hell to think the cop and kkk guy are portrayed as anything but villains

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
yeah the song is about the cops enforcing nothing but bullshit

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

The video actually reads as a response to that Joyner Lucas video where the two white guys wnd up profiting from their hate and bigotry and the last dude trying to hustle or whatever for his family ends up in prison

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i like pov songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGjSq4HqP9Y

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

KVeezy3 posted:

The police enforce the state's laws and gangs break the state's laws.


lmao


The police internally literally operate under the same rules as the gangs do.

The only difference is their violence is entrenched by state's protection. Whether or not it's "legal or not"

Which sure is a major difference as far as your average white person is concerned I guess.

But read up on what happens when a cop snitches on one of their own, and how suddenly backup doesn't come when it's called for. Or all sorts of other wild poo poo.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS8l9s6elkI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXq8R4wnYQ&t=26s

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dexo posted:

lmao


The police internally literally operate under the same rules as the gangs do.

The only difference is their violence is entrenched by state's protection. Whether or not it's "legal or not"

Which sure is a major difference as far as your average white person is concerned I guess.

But read up on what happens when a cop snitches on one of their own, and how suddenly backup doesn't come when it's called for. Or all sorts of other wild poo poo.


tell 'em

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Police-as-gang is a lazy analogy because any exclusive hierarchical institution operates the same way

It’s just simple to make because they’re oppositional

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
its a lazy analogy for people as educated as yourself, perhaps

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
it's a great analogy for making a complicated thing simple to a bunch of people tho

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

Dexo posted:

lmao


The police internally literally operate under the same rules as the gangs do.

The only difference is their violence is entrenched by state's protection. Whether or not it's "legal or not"

Which sure is a major difference as far as your average white person is concerned I guess.

But read up on what happens when a cop snitches on one of their own, and how suddenly backup doesn't come when it's called for. Or all sorts of other wild poo poo.


Would you call the American military a gang?

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
yeah military is the most organized gang that exists. it is the utmost gang of a nation

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk
Right, so like when corporate executives engage in malfeasance, they're a gang.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

KVeezy3 posted:

Would you call the American military a gang?

yes I would.

KVeezy3 posted:

Right, so like when corporate executives engage in malfeasance, they're a gang.

that makes no sense.

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
co-conspirators are definitely engaging in gang-like behaviour kveezy

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vor9si7tDhY

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

the rubbin off the paint intro, except YBN Nahmir's looking at lists of major cultural institutions and addressing each in turn:

Ayy, ayy, gang, gang
Ayy, ayy, ayy, gang, gang
Ayy, ayy, ayy, gang, gang
Ayy, ayy, ayy, gang, gang

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
how far will you go for 15 seconds of fame. we give you much more

marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
alright lets do a spark master tape systems check

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marijuanamancer
Sep 11, 2001

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxlpA_I1ERM

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