Teenage Fansub posted:

https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/1136351641563738112

teagone posted:

Lurdiak posted:

Not judging the movie but that poster legitimately hurts to look at.

Sumo posted:

It fuckin rules

Lurdiak posted:

Not judging the movie but that poster legitimately hurts to look at.

Lurdiak posted:

Yeah what is up with the x-men movies' budgets anyway. Like they're lower budget than an MCU film, of course, but not that much lower budget, and yet so many of them look like made for TV movies with like 3 sets and barely any special effects. The horrible FF movie was entirely set in a warehouse, too. There has to be some Hollywood accounting going on.

Aphrodite posted:

Oh you weren't around in the 80s were you?

X-O posted:

Dark Phoenix is $200 million+ production budget and from the reviews is the most bland of any them in terms of visuals.

Barry Convex posted:

I'm not saying anything new here and I highly doubt this is even DP's biggest problem, but man, it's truly mindboggling that they chose to introduce aliens into the Singerverse after nineteen years, and they went with a bunch of completely generic, unnamed shapeshifters instead of the Shi'ar or any of the other alien characters to whom Fox held the film rights.

I mean, I recall some people being disappointed back in 2012 when, after much speculation, Loki's army in the first Avengers was revealed to be an effectively-original alien race instead of the Skrulls or whoever, but at least that film had no narrative reason for the Chitauri to be more than a faceless army.

Dawgstar posted:

One imagines the Shi'ar - especially the Imperial Guard - was deemed 'too much effort.'

Lurdiak posted:

200 million dollars and it looks about as good as any direct to netflix horror movie.

Omnomnomnivore posted:

Why would they put disco-outfit Dazzler in the movie that’s set in 1993?

Lurdiak posted:

200 million dollars and it looks about as good as any direct to netflix horror movie.

Synthbuttrange posted:

The 90s had a huge 70s revival thing

Sumo posted:

It fuckin rules

Dawgstar posted:

Yeah, they've got the budget I think they just spend it in super boring ways.

BrianWilly posted:

For people who've seen Dark Phoenix, is there any explanation for the fact that Jean pretty much just...y'know, was the Phoenix already in the last film? Like is the fact that she already unleashed her full power and became a giant massive firebird in the last film -- which was pretty integral to defeating Apocalypse -- touched on at all, or are we expected to just studiously ignore that it happened so that it can...happen...again?...now?

BrianWilly posted:

For people who've seen Dark Phoenix, is there any explanation for the fact that Jean pretty much just...y'know, was the Phoenix already in the last film? Like is the fact that she already unleashed her full power and became a giant massive firebird in the last film -- which was pretty integral to defeating Apocalypse -- touched on at all, or are we expected to just studiously ignore that it happened so that it can...happen...again?...now?

Aphrodite posted:

It doesn't seem like it would be too hard for them to do though, if they cared.

The Phoenix has been dormant in Jean since she was a child, the space fire blob actually kills her but then the Phoenix kicks in and brings her back and dominates her personality. You can rectify this with 90 seconds of screen time and an extra CGI effect.

The angry aliens see the power level suddenly reappear on their scanners. Boom, everything runs the same.

Barry Convex posted:

it's truly amazing how little regard the Singerverse films have for their own continuity, even as they've insisted on maintaining some semblance of it and steadfastly refused to do an actual reboot

CityMidnightJunky posted:

It really is the most comic accurate depiction of the X-Men we're ever going to get.

Old Kentucky Shark posted:

It would be if it weren’t so steadfastly afraid of being goofy as poo poo. Except for First Class, which was secretly the best X-Men movie.

Dawgstar posted:

I don't even think that's a big secret. I know X2 gets held up on that pedestal a lot, but upon re-watch it doesn't hold up well.

Rhyno posted:

The only part that is still unmatched is the mansion siege.

Dawgstar posted:

Yeah, I think that's what folks remember. It is still pretty cool.

quote:

Chris Claremont has a theory as to what makes the Dark Phoenix Saga difficult to adapt. “The cheap answer is that no one lets me write it,” he says. “I’m actually not being facetious.” (Claremont had not seen X-Men: Dark Phoenix at the time of our interview. “I hope it will be brilliant,” he says.)

It’s been his goal for decades. He remembers the X-Men premiere in July 2000 on Ellis Island when Famke Janssen, who portrayed Jean Grey in the original trilogy, asked him when he was going to write her a great Phoenix story. “I said, ‘Yeah, give me the word and I’ll give you one that will knock your socks off,’” he says. “That never came to pass, but that was my ambition, to go out west and write the kick rear end X-Men Phoenix story.”

Claremont then shares his kick-rear end Phoenix story, which would slow-pedal the Dark Phoenix Saga across two films. Surprisingly, Claremont’s idea diverges from the comics, with Cyclops and Jean’s daughter Rachel (he would also cast Sophie Turner) playing a major role. But it wouldn’t be a complete departure. Phoenix still devours a star, killing 4 billion D’Bari. The Shi’ar attempt to extract punishment. “I would love to have 200 million bucks to do my version,” he sighs. “I suppose the frustration of being the author of the source material is this sneaky feeling that I know these guys better than anybody and I know the story better than anybody.”

Rhyno posted:

Kind of silly how little blood they showed.

howe_sam posted:

The Ringer, of all places, did a deep dive on the history of Dark Phoenix adaptations. Claremont, as you might imagine, has opinions

quote:

Soon, the two writers were swapping ideas. “We hit it off immediately,” Penn remembers. “Simon was a hard worker and so was I. I had an office and we stayed in that office and we just loving jammed.”

After a week or so, Penn and Kinberg had 80 pages, roughly two-thirds of a script. And they’d solved their biggest challenge: how to depict the Phoenix force. “It was just a matter of taking out the ‘bird of fire that had lived since the beginning of the universe’ idea,” Penn says. “As a kid, I thought it was super cool. As a screenwriter trying to establish tone, it felt impossible to explain to anyone except hardcore fans.”

poly and open-minded posted:

I remember being shocked at the time that they allowed Wolverine to slice and dice soldiers anyway

Rhyno posted:

I think it was the first time I ever cheered in a theater.

Shageletic posted:

lol this article