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Libluini posted:My favorite poo poo was when someone posted a world map filled with the greatest hits of student errors and the Ottoman Empire was labeled "Automaton Empire". Automatic spellcheck
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Jun 5, 2019 22:02
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I really would like to hear the thought process of how, even from total ignorance, someone arrived at this really weird point
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Cyrano4747 posted:The average undergrad doesn’t know the most basic poo poo about history. A prof friend of mine tells of a paper on WWII which mentioned the use of Mazel Tov Cocktails against tanks. It sounds so festive.
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Libluini posted:My favorite poo poo was when someone posted a world map filled with the greatest hits of student errors and the Ottoman Empire was labeled "Automaton Empire". I mean a robot empire makes more sense then one based on pointless furniture. Edit: they half heard something about the mechanical turk and their imagination filled in the rest. Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 5, 2019 |
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Jun 5, 2019 22:44
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what i'm hearing is "ottoman flavored steampunk"
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Jun 5, 2019 22:53
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Libluini posted:My favorite poo poo was when someone posted a world map filled with the greatest hits of student errors and the Ottoman Empire was labeled "Automaton Empire". Anyone know where that is? I'd love to see that.
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Jun 5, 2019 23:03
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HEY GUNS posted:what i'm hearing is "ottoman flavored steampunk" Have you played 80 Days?
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Jun 5, 2019 23:15
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https://www.amazon.com/Ignorance-Blitz-Mangled-Moments-Students/dp/076114949X A silly little quick read if you can find it cheap. World history as told by lovely essays a university history prof recieved over the years.
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Jun 5, 2019 23:33
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so why do russian subs have escape pods and nobody else does? it seems like a pretty good idea
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Jun 5, 2019 23:50
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HEY GUNS posted:so why do russian subs have escape pods and nobody else does? it seems like a pretty good idea Do we know that we do? It's been conjectured but I don't know that the Russians have confirmed it. The Brits and Americans do have this doodad, which supposedly enables escape from 600 ft down: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_Escape_Immersion_Equipment
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Jun 5, 2019 23:55
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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HEY GUNS posted:so why do russian subs have escape pods and nobody else does? it seems like a pretty good idea They do? The Mike did, but that sub was an experimental one-off and when it sank only one guy out of the 5 who made it to the pod lived. Supposedly the later Oscars and Typhoons have them, but in general, subs are weight-limited and a pressure vessel big enough for a substantial portion of the crew is going to be a huge penalty unless the sub is godawful huge to being with (again, Typhoons qualify). US subs have historically had escape devices on board, plus an escape trunk, basically an airlock big enough for a few guys at a time. This used to be an inflatable left vest with a breathing hood, but now is a full suit. Escaping the sub while it sinks is really the last resort of a last resort, the hope is that if the boat goes down while living people on it they can sit on the bottom for a bit until a DSRV gets to them.
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Jun 6, 2019 00:04
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HEY GUNS posted:i have TAed numerous history classes and the vast majority of people there have no idea about very much of anything. If those guys never took a history class in college, all they have are their own dumb ideas and whatever's filtered in from pop culture I feel they pick up up one of those honking huge but simple as coffee table history books and of course Hitlers Bloody Henchmen is alphabetized so they actually start with Albert Speer and end up taking notes instead.
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Jun 6, 2019 00:08
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Phanatic posted:They do? quote:The Mike did, but that sub was an experimental one-off and when it sank only one guy out of the 5 who made it to the pod lived. Supposedly the later Oscars and Typhoons have them, but in general, subs are weight-limited and a pressure vessel big enough for a substantial portion of the crew is going to be a huge penalty unless the sub is godawful huge to being with (again, Typhoons qualify). HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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Jun 6, 2019 00:10
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What's the one with the pool? The oscar?
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Jun 6, 2019 01:15
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Milo and POTUS posted:What's the one with the pool? The oscar? Typhoon.
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Jun 6, 2019 01:18
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It'd either suck or be totally awesome to be kicking back in the pool and all of the sudden emergency surface.
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Jun 6, 2019 02:28
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Minto Took posted:It'd either suck or be totally awesome to be kicking back in the pool and all of the sudden emergency surface. What do the Typhoon-class submarines and McKinley Middle School in Cedar Rapids, Iowa have in common? Both had NBC protection. Their swimming pools are used as storage.
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Jun 6, 2019 02:49
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HEY GUNS posted:you know i used to love the word "harmony" but after glancing contact with china twitter i loving hate it The best part of learning Chinese is learning all of the ways you can take advantage of the numerous homonyms inherent in the language as a form of political protest. Harmonize (和諧/hé xiè) is a perfect example because you can also say River crab (河蟹/hé xiè), which is why talking about freshwater seafood can also get your posts censored. Also the entire existence of the Cao Ni Ma song. Kangxi posted:A TA friend of mine says some people still thought Mao was alive when they ran an intro to China course. Another person thought Beijing and Peking were different cities When I started learning Chinese there was a guy in my class who didn't realize Korean, Chinese and Japanese were not only different languages, they were from spoken in countries with their own unique history and culture. Since I've only encountered that once I'm hoping it was just a case of being hyper sheltered.
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Jun 6, 2019 03:03
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most people's opinions don't make any loving sense and are just a minefield of cognitive dissonance, and i assume they'd say the same about ours
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Jun 6, 2019 03:49
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Cessna posted:A prof friend of mine tells of a paper on WWII which mentioned the use of Mazel Tov Cocktails against tanks. It's important that the squad gunner lays covering fire with his BAR Mitzvah when you do that.
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Jun 6, 2019 03:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGLRrQEBqAs
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Jun 6, 2019 04:34
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Does anyone have a good source on the clothing worn by 18th century fur trappers and mountain men? Specifically construction of the iconic buckskin outfits.
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Jun 6, 2019 04:45
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Happy D-day! I would like to hear about the planning behind Operation Bagration's timing. Iirc Stalin had agreed to launch a major offensive against Germans within a month (or a few weeks?) of Overlord. When was the final date set? As Overlord was originally postponed from May due to weather, did this affect Bagration's timing? Was the occurence on Operation Barbarossa's anniversary just a happy coincidence or intended to boost troop morale?
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Jun 6, 2019 09:21
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Milo and POTUS posted:What's the one with the pool? The oscar? It's not really a pool, more of a glorified bathtub.   They had sauna on board as well. e: here's a massive album of Typhoon-related images, from construction to scrapping. Includes pictures of sauna, arcade cabinet and escape pods. https://imgur.com/a/xi3P3 Gervasius fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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Jun 6, 2019 13:26
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Gervasius posted:It's not really a pool, more of a glorified bathtub. If my experience of Russian banya culture is any good, this would be filled with cold water. You stay in banya until you feel dizzy from the heat, then you plunge into the cold tub which is deep enough to have water to the neck when standing (or to your nipples if you are extra tall!). Repeat & rinse.
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Jun 6, 2019 14:26
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Gervasius posted:e: here's a massive album of Typhoon-related images, from construction to scrapping. Includes pictures of sauna, arcade cabinet and escape pods. I love this:  Also check out this site.
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Nenonen posted:Happy D-day! I would like to hear about the planning behind Operation Bagration's timing. Iirc Stalin had agreed to launch a major offensive against Germans within a month (or a few weeks?) of Overlord. When was the final date set? As Overlord was originally postponed from May due to weather, did this affect Bagration's timing? Was the occurence on Operation Barbarossa's anniversary just a happy coincidence or intended to boost troop morale? Wasn't it the other way around? Stalin had been asking the allies to open a second front since like, 1941, and the delays had been annoying him.
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Jun 6, 2019 14:53
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Bad D-Day trolling Good D-Day trolling https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1136256630021087233
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sullat posted:Wasn't it the other way around? Stalin had been asking the allies to open a second front since like, 1941, and the delays had been annoying him. Yes but these are separate things. Roosevelt and Stalin swayed Churchill to support invading northern France in Teheran in 1943. Stalin then agreed to launch their summer offensive about the same time. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/tehran-conf Nenonen fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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Jun 6, 2019 15:01
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What was Churchill's other galaxy brain plan, land in Yugoslavia?
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Agean90 posted:the only reason the grand canyon isn't a necropolis is it's helorescue team and the combination of rangers and volunteers who roam the trials for people who decided they only need a bottle of water for a hike to the bottom 14 mile round trip hike at minimum to get to the river and back (without stopping at Phantom), and that's taking the steepest trail that doesn't have any sources of water. and then there's the people who take the slightly longer, less steep trail down that does have sources of fresh water... and then take the steeper trail with no water up. Frankly it's a miracle more people don't die here.
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Jun 6, 2019 15:34
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GotLag posted:What was Churchill's other galaxy brain plan, land in Yugoslavia? Keep pushing in Italy and land in southern france (which ended up happening later anyways.)
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Jun 6, 2019 15:37
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Acebuckeye13 posted:14 mile round trip hike at minimum to get to the river and back (without stopping at Phantom), and that's taking the steepest trail that doesn't have any sources of water. I did North Kaibab to Bright Angel with an overnight at Phantom a few years ago with some family. The amount of planning that went into the hike was considerable. We woke up early and started hiking in the dark so that we could be through The Box before 3pm when it would be dangerously hot. We all carried our own water. Drank often. And filled at almost every opportunity. Also had lots of snacks. Honestly I'm impressed my mom and aunt were able to plan all of it and manage to herd a dozenish people through the hike. No injuries, but one member did get tired and could no longer carry their pack. The worst part was going up the switchbacks on Bright Angel. I had two massive blisters, one on each heel and it was pretty agonizing. The entire hike was amazing but it's one of those things I'll probably never do again.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:04
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Acebuckeye13 posted:
No kidding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhKZCy41g5w (And don't forget the people who drown because "It isn't raining" and go into a wash.)
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Jun 6, 2019 16:27
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I saw that the other night and I was laughing so hard I was in tears.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:29
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Grand Canyon is a beautiful place that hates you and will kill you dead if you let it.
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Jun 6, 2019 16:30
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GotLag posted:What was Churchill's other galaxy brain plan, land in Yugoslavia? I imagine doing the amphibious landing on a coast that looks like this would be fun.  I mean, there are some other places maybe suitable for amphibious landing but entire eastern adriatic coast is basically "tiny strip of land and suddenly huge gently caress-off mountain". Gervasius fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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Jun 6, 2019 16:33
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Gervasius posted:I imagine doing the amphibious landing on a coast that looks like this would be fun. Yeah fundamentally impossible amphibious landings were Churchill's
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Jun 6, 2019 16:38
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sullat posted:Wasn't it the other way around? Stalin had been asking the allies to open a second front since like, 1941, and the delays had been annoying him. Stalin aside, there wasn't enough amphibious transport capacity to do everything in 1943, either the mediterranean or pacific campaigns would've had to have been curtailed for a direct invasion of france in 1943. Obviously to Stalin these were trifles but the US and UK had plenty of good reasons for those operations.
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Jun 6, 2019 17:36
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https://twitter.com/katemond/status/1135863927483633664 I however, am making a finger innuendo.
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I just read up on Erwin Gast's assault on the Factory Administration Building/Commissar's House during Operation Hubertus, and I found it put lies to a lot of the ideas of German military competence. Imagine you're in charge of the 50th Armoured Combat Engineer Battalion, and you've been tasked with attacking a massive, heavily fortified building that is nearly impervious to anything short of heavy artillery fire and lets the Red Army dominate the battlefield. Do you: a) Ignore offers of extra troops, because your pioneers are elite, b) Choose not to ask for any tactical advice from veterans of Stalingrad, because you want to prove yourself to the older German officers, c) Plan to attack a building with breaching charges that can't penetrate its walls, d) Attack at night so your troops can't see where any weak points in the walls are, e) Attack without suppressing the building's defenders, f) Plan for your troops to retreat to shellholes within hand grenade range of the defender, if your attack fails, g) All of the above Anyway, I've been on a Stalingrad kicker lately. What were the nitty-gritty of house-to-house fighting in Stalingrad? How did German and Soviet troops go on about assaulting a building, and how did they go on about fighting from room to room? Like, which weapons do you bring to bear, where do you attack, how many soldiers do you need to attack the average Stalinka, etc.?
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