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NSA WIZARD
Jan 20, 2016

https://twitter.com/NSAGov/status/1136376127272968199?s=20

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Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

I love everything about the idea of riding a motorcycle up until the point where I have to share the road with DC area drivers, much like how I love the idea of learning how to hunt up until the point where I actually kill an animal.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
The only time I don't wear a helmet is when me and my wife putter down to the movies at 30 miles an hour max, half a click down the road.

Otherwise it's full face, carbon fiber super duper helmet that is worth a small fortune as I have very little functional brain left.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



CommieGIR posted:

Bike rider groups have been arguing for ages that being forced to use them drives down ridership.

It may do that, but its still better than brain death or a TBI.

Except you're a lot less likely to hit your head if you don't get hit by a car. And you're a lot less likely to get hit by a car if there are tons of cyclists out there on safely designed (re: slow car traffic) streets. Having cyclist/pedestrian oriented streets makes for way safer riding in general, on top of lowering other health issues because cycling is great for your health. Anecdotal, but I would wager the lives saved by increased health due to more cycling/walking would far outweigh those lost to head injuries on bicycles or walkers getting mowed down by cars.

I guess my point is that most of the problem here is cars as evidenced by say comparing transportation and street design in the Netherlands to your average US city, let alone car oriented sprawl.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:

pantslesswithwolves posted:

I love everything about the idea of riding a motorcycle up until the point where I have to share the road with DC area drivers, much like how I love the idea of learning how to hunt up until the point where I actually kill an animal.

Sounds like wildlife photography is right up your alley. Just as expensive and difficult as hunting, but without the threat of death.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

DoktorLoken posted:

Except you're a lot less likely to hit your head if you don't get hit by a car. And you're a lot less likely to get hit by a car if there are tons of cyclists out there on safely designed (re: slow car traffic) streets. Having cyclist/pedestrian oriented streets makes for way safer riding in general, on top of lowering other health issues because cycling is great for your health. Anecdotal, but I would wager the lives saved by increased health due to more cycling/walking would far outweigh those lost to head injuries on bicycles or walkers getting mowed down by cars.

I guess my point is that most of the problem here is cars as evidenced by say comparing transportation and street design in the Netherlands to your average US city, let alone car oriented sprawl.

If you fall off your bike or have an accident on your bike at any speed above 10 MPH, you risk a TBI.

So no, still need to wear a helmet. Bikes are still medium to high speed vehicles.

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
As someone who probably had their life saved by a bicycle helmet, wear a loving helmet whenever you're riding.

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones

A Bad Poster posted:

Sounds like wildlife photography is right up your alley. Just as expensive and difficult as hunting, but without the threat of death.

Depends on what you’re trying to shoot.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one

A Bad Poster posted:

As someone who probably had their life saved by a bicycle helmet, wear a loving helmet whenever you're riding.

Same. Including a rather memorable (thanks to the helmet) “that car that just tried to run me down now has a huge dent in the door, how did that happen?”. My head made the dent, or specifically my now cracked helmet, which is why I can still add and spell.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

honestly if you're not wearing a helmet it's pretty clear there ain't poo poo worth protecting

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


A helmet saved me from probably getting a concussion once. My parents would have had a fit if they'd ever caught me not wearing one.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Handsome Ralph posted:

https://twitter.com/pptsapper/status/1136456314740232192

I like this take.

Honestly I don't know what's more annoying (as a historian), Russians/Tankies pretending that the Soviet Union won the war all alone and that the Western Theater was the equivalent to a mid-90s NATO police action or Americans who pretend that D-Day/the western front was the reason Nazi Germany was finally defeated.

I always like to break out these quotes:

Joseph Stalin posted:

Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war.

Nikita Khrushchev posted:

I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so.

Georgy Zhukov posted:

Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war.

Arcella
Dec 16, 2013

Shiny and Chrome

Vasudus posted:

Whenever the health surveillance nerds I was managing would do a safety pull you could always tell which accident was a motorcycle beyond the fact that ICD-10 has a motorcycle-specific injury prefix. Because it was nine or ten linked codes, at least, and they were always serious ones.

I'm not a medical coder so I can't just recreate it out of thin air but the codes basically told a story, except the story at the end was 'and then the servicemember was hosed for life as a hollow shell, the end'

W61.01XD Bitten by parrot, subsequent encounter

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

DoktorLoken posted:

Except you're a lot less likely to hit your head if you don't get hit by a car. And you're a lot less likely to get hit by a car if there are tons of cyclists out there on safely designed (re: slow car traffic) streets. Having cyclist/pedestrian oriented streets makes for way safer riding in general, on top of lowering other health issues because cycling is great for your health. Anecdotal, but I would wager the lives saved by increased health due to more cycling/walking would far outweigh those lost to head injuries on bicycles or walkers getting mowed down by cars.

I guess my point is that most of the problem here is cars as evidenced by say comparing transportation and street design in the Netherlands to your average US city, let alone car oriented sprawl.
This is all 100% accurate, but I still worry about the vocal handful of overly-zealous cyclists that react too forcefully against encouragement of helmet use and helmet laws. On the one hand, they're absolutely right that the most adamant proponents of bicycle helmet laws typically have the ulterior motive of removing cyclists from our roads. On the other, people should absolutely wear a helmet if it's at all possible because the protection from injury is significant. Maybe the most reasonable way to go is mandate helmet use only for anyone doing distance/competitive cycling and just continue raising awareness of the benefits more broadly?

But yeah, the biggest safety improvement we can bring to our roads is shifting public norms away from the idea that cars getting from point A to point B in the fastest time possible trumps all other concerns.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

A Bad Poster posted:

As someone who probably had their life saved by a bicycle helmet, wear a loving helmet whenever you're riding.

Same. I think I posted the story last time this came up but I went over the handlebars going fast down pedestrian bridge overpass thing and slid 10-20 feet on my helmet after landing straight on my head. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet I'd have either had my brain smeared on the pavement or at best had half my face torn off. Instead I just cracked my helmet and ruined everything I was wearing by sliding and bleeding all over it.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
And Ill just chime in and say I agree infrastructure needs to change to allow for more biking and pedestrian traffic. Plus more mass transit.

But if you are operating any vehicle, human powered or not, use the safety gear.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

I am a lil late for Killdozer chat, but i got bad news for you guys

Killdozer is cancelled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvl_7_Up7zU
TL;DR: Small business owners are insane.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
It was 50C/122F in northern India today.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Holy poo poo

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
i literally went over my handlebars on my bicycle today trying to show off for some girls lmao, i wouldnt have hit my head (still had my helmet on!) cause I caught myself before I did but still

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

my first day doing clinicals for my paramedic cert we had a dude airlifted in

he was popping wheelies on a 6 lane highway, did so right past a cop doing a speed trap, and fell back, slid 100 feet on blacktop, gravel, and dirt. wearing a pair of levis

dude had sanded his rear end off.




wear safety gear

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

Helmets are great. I lock my bike under a set of stairs and every loving morning I bang my head on the stairs after I finish locking up but I don't give a poo poo because helmets rock.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Vasudus posted:

It was 50C/122F in northern India today.

Balmy.

The only benefit of seeing similar numbers in Iraq was that it was like walking into a roasting oven. I don't even remotely envy that poo poo in any other environment, let alone the slightest hint of humidity.

Climate migration is gonna be wild.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

my first day doing clinicals for my paramedic cert we had a dude airlifted in

he was popping wheelies on a 6 lane highway, did so right past a cop doing a speed trap, and fell back, slid 100 feet on blacktop, gravel, and dirt. wearing a pair of levis

dude had sanded his rear end off.




wear safety gear

I went down at 70 and walked away because I wore full gear. If I hadn't been I would have literally erased my dick on asphalt.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Climate migration is gonna be wild.

The monsoon in the Midwest has finally abated, or at least it has in Nebraska so we were finally able to finish planting today!

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Meanwhile, in tornado alley (Maryland), we've gone one full day without a super cell.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

ct has been gorgeous and 80s past two days. barely any humidity

havent turned the ac on yet

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Nostalgia4Butts posted:

ct has been gorgeous and 80s past two days. barely any humidity

havent turned the ac on yet

Tacoma mildly rainy but still warm and sunny.

Good ultimate Frisbee weather.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Montreal finally got a second day afternoon where we could walk around without a jacket.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
it was 22C in sault ste marie today and its gonna get even warmer all weekend until monday then back to 12 and rainy

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

my kinda ape posted:

The monsoon in the Midwest has finally abated, or at least it has in Nebraska so we were finally able to finish planting today!

This poo poo is wild. Didn't parts of Nebraska go without precipitation for a while? Like over a period of years? Aside from random dumps of winter snow that did gently caress all to restore the water plate.

My uncle pushed most of his seed into the ground somehow in April in Illinois. He's had to go back and replant a few patches, but most of the land he works is tiled thoroughly so drainage hasn't been an issue since the 90s on that land.

Goddamn I don't miss the grain farm. Dude sounds like he's eating fistfuls of misery, even with outright owned equipment.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Cugel the Clever posted:

This is all 100% accurate, but I still worry about the vocal handful of overly-zealous cyclists that react too forcefully against encouragement of helmet use and helmet laws. On the one hand, they're absolutely right that the most adamant proponents of bicycle helmet laws typically have the ulterior motive of removing cyclists from our roads. On the other, people should absolutely wear a helmet if it's at all possible because the protection from injury is significant. Maybe the most reasonable way to go is mandate helmet use only for anyone doing distance/competitive cycling and just continue raising awareness of the benefits more broadly?

But yeah, the biggest safety improvement we can bring to our roads is shifting public norms away from the idea that cars getting from point A to point B in the fastest time possible trumps all other concerns.

Personally I'm against mandating helmet usage at all. Encouraging, sure.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Wouldn't it all be fukken wild if this climate doomsday stuff happens sooner rather than later

Like the storms and tornadoes and snow in June just become more and more frequent

I think that would be alright

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Fallom posted:

Wouldn't it all be fukken wild if this climate doomsday stuff happens sooner rather than later

Like the storms and tornadoes and snow in June just become more and more frequent

I think that would be alright

I don't have kids so I'm down for any apocalypse.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
I shouldnt be surprised Killdozers pilot is a raging asshat, but here we are.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

CommieGIR posted:

I shouldnt be surprised Killdozers pilot is a raging asshat, but here we are.

ElMaligno posted:

I am a lil late for Killdozer chat, but i got bad news for you guys

Killdozer is cancelled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvl_7_Up7zU
TL;DR: Small business owners are insane.

I mean yeah, but also :killdozer:

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

it was 22C in sault ste marie today and its gonna get even warmer all weekend until monday then back to 12 and rainy

I heard the coolest thing to do in Soo was to move the gently caress out, confirm / deny?

Edit: bush plane museum looks legit though, but I’ve only seen it from the water.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Fallom posted:

Wouldn't it all be fukken wild if this climate doomsday stuff happens sooner rather than later

Like the storms and tornadoes and snow in June just become more and more frequent

I think that would be alright

I'd rather we had less human misery myself

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Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

FrozenVent posted:

I heard the coolest thing to do in Soo was to move the gently caress out, confirm / deny?

Edit: bush plane museum looks legit though, but I’ve only seen it from the water.

I'm only here for work. I'm living out of a motel lol. My house is 8 hours south

Some co workers say it's pretty cool but I haven't been.

I'm doing some cycling event all this weekend so I might find some new trails or something to kill the time. There really isn't much else to do except fish, and there's tons of that around here. I don't have the patience for that tho

Edit: to answer your question, most of the local guys hate living here but also don't ever move away, I think it has to do with all the poo poo you inhale from the steel mill. It was legit foggy for 2km around the plant one day and it was all from the plant. I think this city has one of the highest rates of cancer in all of Ontario

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