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(Thread IKs: Nenonen)
What should the presidential powers be in 2020?
This poll is closed.
UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! 3 23.08%
Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. 2 15.38%
He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. 2 15.38%
None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! 2 15.38%
Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. 0 0%
None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. 4 30.77%
Total: 13 votes
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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
barbecue, yay!

(shameful snipe)

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No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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SDP have chosen their ministers:

  • Antti Rinne as Prime Minister
  • Timo Harakka as Labor minister
  • Sanna Marin as Transport and Communications Minister
  • Ville Skinnari as Development and Foreign Trade Minister
  • Krista Kiuru as Family and Services Minister
  • Tytti Tuppurainen as Europe Minister
  • Sirpa Paatero as Municipality and State Ownership Minister
Also SDP will campaign Jutta Urpilainen as the next EU-commissar. Eero Heinäluoma who got the most votes in the EU election was circumvented because of his sex.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Catpain Slack posted:

that's not what that means and you know it

BIG BORGÅ CHYDENIUSER.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

Also SDP will campaign Jutta Urpilainen as the next EU-commissar. Eero Heinäluoma who got the most votes in the EU election was circumvented because of his sex.

drat, I wasn't told that we were voting for the next komissaari when I went to EP polls. I was under the impression that it was the PM's prerogative to nominate anyone he wanted, even Paavo Väyrynen, but I must have been misguided in thinking so. Now I'm just glad that Huhtasaari didn't get the most votes because she's also a woman so would have been twice as qualified.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Nenonen posted:

drat, I wasn't told that we were voting for the next komissaari when I went to EP polls. I was under the impression that it was the PM's prerogative to nominate anyone he wanted, even Paavo Väyrynen, but I must have been misguided in thinking so. Now I'm just glad that Huhtasaari didn't get the most votes because she's also a woman so would have been twice as qualified.

It's true that Antti Rinne called the shots, but after the EU elections it was presumed that Heinäluoma would get the ticket. But then Rinne blurted out that the next commissar should be a woman and Jutta Urpilainen commented that there have been male commissars for 25 years or so, so it's pretty clear Eero wasn't going to get in because of his sex. I'm not going to argue if she's more qualified than him, but it certainly wasn't decided on that. That said, I suspect Rinne did it for more political than ideological reasons, considering he took over the position of party chairman from her aggressively.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

It's true that Antti Rinne called the shots, but after the EU elections it was presumed that Heinäluoma would get the ticket.

Why? Heinäluoma said that he thinks he should be picked, but it has never worked that way.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Nenonen posted:

Why? Heinäluoma said that he thinks he should be picked, but it has never worked that way.

Well, yes. That's how politics work in the end. If you haven't the clout, that's pretty much it.

What are we even arguing here?

slowdave
Jun 18, 2008

Ohisalo as the minister of the interior :getin:

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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https://twitter.com/KimmoNuotio/status/1136181895463616512

Rumors are saying Antti Kaikonen (CP) will be named as treasury minister. Thing is, he was implicated in a corruption scandal in Nuorisosäätiö ten years ago, where they siphoned money to Center Party to the point the organization was close to bankruptcy, so some are questioning the appropriateness of putting a guy like him in such a post. However he has managed to maintain his place in parliament in two successive terms, so some take it as sign of pardon.

But we can probably agree that Kepu keeps being Kepu.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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The whole "ministerin on oltava rehellinen ja taitava Suomen kansalainen" part of the Constitution is a dead letter because it's clearly become a political, not a constitutional question.

slowdave posted:

Ohisalo as the minister of the interior :getin:

From what I can tell this happened because every party got to pick portfolios in turn in order of how many MPs they have. That put Greens in the #3 position, and in round two after they had grabbed Foreign Minister, Interior was by far the best portfolio left over; but given that LA was after them in the pecking order it implies they picked it over either STM or Minister of Education, which is still a bit unexpected. I feel like Ohisalo would have loved to be STM, so maybe LA picked that first, even though Andersson is rumoured to be more interested in Education.

Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Jun 5, 2019

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

https://twitter.com/KimmoNuotio/status/1136181895463616512

Rumors are saying Antti Kaikonen (CP) will be named as treasury minister.

Nou hätä, AK was named the Bullet Farmer!

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

I'm OK, you're so-so
Mika Lintilä named as Minister of Moneybags. I wonder if he's meant to keep the seat for the whole term or if he's just keeping it warm for the next party chair.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Forktoss posted:

Mika Lintilä named as Minister of Moneybags. I wonder if he's meant to keep the seat for the whole term or if he's just keeping it warm for the next party chair.

I thought they gave the portfolio to a woman if they intended to do that?

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011
Jaa eli onkos se sittenki f35 mikä suomelle tulee ku tota vähä voidellaan?

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

SnowblindFatal posted:

Jaa eli onkos se sittenki f35 mikä suomelle tulee ku tota vähä voidellaan?

riippuu siitä kuinka innokkaasti halutaan natoon ja kuinka suuret lahjukset tulee lockmartilta

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Here's your äijä-feministi government:

  • Prime minister Antti Rinne (SDP)
  • Europe minister Tytti Tuppurainen (SDP)
  • Municipality and State Ownership minister Sirpa Paatero (SDP)
  • Development and Foreign Trade minister Ville Skinnari (SDP)
  • Family and Basic Services minister Krista Kiuru (SDP)
  • Infrastructure minister Sanna Marin (SDP)
  • Labor minister Timo Harakka (SDP)
  • State Treasury minister Mika Lintilä (CP)
  • Science and Culture minister Annika Saarikko (CP) (Hanna Kosonen (CP) will act as minister for one year from August)
  • Livelihood minister Katri Kulmuni (CP)
  • Defense minister Antti Kaikkonen (CP)
  • Land and Forest Industry minister Jari Leppä (CP)
  • Foreign minister Pekka Haavisto (Gr)
  • Environment and Climate minister Krista Mikkonen (Gr)
  • Interior minister Maria Ohisalo (Gr)
  • Education minister Li Andersson (LA)
  • Social and Health minister Anna-Kaisa Pekonen (LA) (for first half)
  • Social and Health minister Hanna Sarkkinen (LA) (for second half)
  • Justice minister Anna-Maja Henriksson (SFP)
  • Nordic Co-operation and Equality minister Thomas Blomqvist (SFP)

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011
Hihhuli johtamassa tiedettä :thumbsup:

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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I guess it looks like the best one could realistically expect, so still pretty poo poo but not a complete horrorshow.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



this is infitely better than having a single kok, persu or fundis in the government

fluffyDeathbringer
Nov 1, 2017

it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it
full piraattipuolue government or bust

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

fluffyDeathbringer posted:

full piraattipuolue government or bust

miks vitus?

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Juha Sipilä is just a regular MP now. Four years and a few days. We made it, guys!

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


ketä vittua oikeesti kiinnostaa nää vaalien jälkeiset gallupit joita nyt tulee kokoajan

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Andrast posted:

ketä vittua oikeesti kiinnostaa nää vaalien jälkeiset gallupit joita nyt tulee kokoajan

Alkeellisia ainakin.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Andrast posted:

ketä vittua oikeesti kiinnostaa nää vaalien jälkeiset gallupit joita nyt tulee kokoajan

Stats nerds.

It really doesn't benefit TF that they're the top leader in the polls with a clear two percent margin when you can't even turn it to reality. If anything it'll make the coalition keep their lines in check more. We're not going to see elections for some time.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
There is already conflict brewing between Kepu and the Greens w/r/t sellutehtaat. Just how much poo poo is the Green party willing to eat to keep Kepu in government, might become a pivotal question.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


doverhog posted:

There is already conflict brewing between Kepu and the Greens w/r/t sellutehtaat. Just how much poo poo is the Green party willing to eat to keep Kepu in government, might become a pivotal question.

There is no way they didn't hash out the sellutehdas business during hallitusneuvottelut

doverhog
May 31, 2013

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I'm sure it was talked about but right off the bat there were headlines about it.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

doverhog posted:

I'm sure it was talked about but right off the bat there were headlines about it.

That doesn't mean anything though. It's just as likely that the media thinks that there's no actual big disagreement so they've decided to manufacture one. Gotta sell them irtonumerot somehow.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
https://twitter.com/hjallisharkimo/status/1136571997704597505

taitaa tämä hallitus flopata jos Harkimokin äänestää sen puolesta

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
Are we absolutely sure that Hjallis isn't just Paavo in disguise?

matti
Mar 31, 2019

itse kannatan myös monia asoita vaikka hommat ei aina skulaa

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

matti posted:

itse kannatan myös monia asoita vaikka hommat ei aina skulaa

:sad:

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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doverhog posted:

There is already conflict brewing between Kepu and the Greens w/r/t sellutehtaat. Just how much poo poo is the Green party willing to eat to keep Kepu in government, might become a pivotal question.

I think you mean "how much poo poo is the Green party willing to eat to keep persus out of government".

I mean the basic blues were eating heapfuls last time around to keep early elections at bay.

The moment this gets interesting is when the recession hits, or the 2020 budget negotiations happen and we don't have the increased employment rates. I agree with the right-wingers that a coalition program whose aim is to keep a balanced budget by increasing the employment rate is a fantasy. But where I disagree is the a priori that the budget should be kept balanced, and this is what deeply worries me. Either kepu was able to poison pill the whole thing by insisting on a balanced budget, or they give in, because the economy's going to be melting down around us.

In a way, things remaining stable as they are might be the worst outcome, because it would mean no progress in the employment rate by 2020, and then if they still face bad polling kepu might throw a tantrum or go for even more iltalypsy.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Speaking of the Blues, they've got a new party leader. Waiting them to get back in parliament next term! Not really.

https://twitter.com/SiniTulevaisuus/status/1137298239458291712

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
I hope Soini's boys establish their own party again. You can't let the start up party business to become Paavo's monopoly, after all!

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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https://twitter.com/kuumatotteet/status/1137367406756663296

We're living in times where SA's maxim that the internet makes people stupid rings truer each year.

Golden Gate Bride
Oct 23, 2008
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Vitun Adorno pilaa meijjään AKAT

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Markus Jansson, convicted of child porn possession, surely is the best man around to voice his opinion on the traditional sex roles of men and women.

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Sharpest Crayon
Jul 16, 2009

Always Wag. Always Friend. Very Safety.
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Resexualize male-presenting nipples.

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