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Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


I dunno, there's just nothing else like Chernobyl. Every other disaster is going to feel incredibly tame as a follow up. Even Fukushima took an absolute act of god to happen.


Edit: I stand corrected, please do Flint.

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BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Two words:

Flint, Michigan.

I also think one could do interesting stuff with the early days of nuclear weapons, like, the few years when America was the sole user and all those tests at Bikini, with all that shady relocationing of the locals.

BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jun 9, 2019

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

How would a second season even come to be? It's not like Chernobyl is under the umberella of some bigger show, it's just "Chernobyl" so there's not going to be Chernobyl, season 2. And the guy behind it is already working on something else for HBO and said it's completely different from Chernobyl so it's unlikely it's focused on a disaster of some kind. Besides, has there even been a real theme established for the show, I mean is it government response to a disaster? Is it about cover ups detrimental to the general populace? Whistleblowers? Is it industrial accidents? Is it general misery porn? Probably not that, but what is the overall theme here that would tie Chernobyl as a show into what follows it? Seems to me it could go a billion different ways.

For the record, I'm all for delving deep into historical events, disasters or otherwise, as accurately as dramatic license allows, in order to spread awareness about them, so I'm open to all sorts of things as long as the quality and effort stays consistent. I bet there were a ton of people completely unaware that Chernobyl was a real thing (instead of a Call of Duty level) until this show came around. Edu-tainment!

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Second season is a shorter way of saying “I want more historical incidents to be explored in a similarly formatted limited miniseries”

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

I suppose that's fair enough.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

hobbesmaster posted:

Second season is a shorter way of saying “I want more historical incidents to be explored in a similarly formatted limited miniseries”

This sums it up. Anyone who wants a “literal” S2 of Chernobyl likes the show for the wrong reasons.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



I hope this thread is alive when the anti cia Russian series drops

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

BigglesSWE posted:

This sums it up. Anyone who wants a “literal” S2 of Chernobyl likes the show for the wrong reasons.

Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that. I was just wondering since there was so much talk about a season 2 of the show how that would come about, but now I do see that it was pretty much "more of something similar" instead of a literal season 2.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

By the sound of things the creators are indeed moving on to more of the same, if by "more of the same" you mean "a dramatized version of a real-life event that respects the original actions taken and the people involved." Which is as much as I could hope for, honestly.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Likewise, and I guess that would be the overall theme for whatever comes next whether it's what they're developing now or something else later.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

BigglesSWE posted:

Two words:

Flint, Michigan.

I also think one could do interesting stuff with the early days of nuclear weapons, like, the few years when America was the sole user and all those tests at Bikini, with all that shady relocationing of the locals.

Hahaha, this would get Snyder murdered

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

SocketWrench posted:

Hahaha, this would get Snyder murdered

I fail to see what Zack Snyder has to do with anything?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMf1NRByV8

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

BigglesSWE posted:

The imagery of her husband in his final moments is one of the most unsettling things I've seen on television. I had to make sure that my girlfriend wouldn't watch it before bed, but rather wait till I can watch it with her during daytime, because that scene alone would haunt her dreams for sure.

Just lol at you breathlessly decrying any criticism of a female character while simultaneously dictating to your girlfriend what she watches and when she does it.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

El_Elegante posted:

Just lol at you breathlessly decrying any criticism of a female character while simultaneously dictating to your girlfriend what she watches and when she does it.

Or maybe I have watched television with my partner before and would know how she’d react to seeing disturbing imagery? I mean, i realize you’re arguing in bad faith at best and trolling at worst, but perhaps don’t assume I’m bossing around my girlfriend in the future, unless you really want to come off as an rear end in a top hat, that is.

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
Here's the thing: someone who wasn't a condescending rear end in a top hat would just give them a heads up about the content and let them decide. You come off as the worst kind of trash that labels themselves a male feminist.

And the richness of complaining about bad faith, after writing this:

BigglesSWE posted:

If you’re watching what is universally hailed as one of the best shows in recent memory, and you feel the need to “why women in mah tv”, then you probably have more general problems with women than just in this specific case, hth

Asbury
Mar 23, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
Hair Elf
Thanks for reminding me why I unbookmarked

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
^^ projection is a helluva thing.

Maybe it’s time to figure out that “ignore” feature that I’ve heard so much about...

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."
:thunk: :How often do you beat your girlfriend, BigglesSWE?

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Ask El_Stupido; he seems to know about it better than me.

I’m case anyone missed it; he brought my girlfriend and her gender into this, not me.

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

CrazyLoon posted:

:thunk: :How often do you beat your girlfriend, BigglesSWE?

not often, I'd think. His arms are probably too tired from swatting the remote out of her hand.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

it's in the mighty hands of steel
Fun Shoe
If the next Chernobyl-style miniseries is about an American disaster, then it should be done in Spanish with all actors being Spaniards, Mexicans, and maybe Venezuelans. No fake American accents.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
I actually watched episode 4 yesterday with a friend who hadn't watched it. When it got to the dog shootings, he exclaimed how his girlfriend could never watch this show.

So clearly what I should do is to ignore any and all context to his statement that may have been unspoken (like the fact that she's a animal loving vegan who adores dogs especially), don't bring it up for 19 days and then just randomly accuse him of sexist behavior.

Did I get that right?

Don't bother answering. Ignorance is bliss, so I'd say you're quite the lucky guy!

BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 9, 2019

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

it's in the mighty hands of steel
Fun Shoe

BigglesSWE posted:

I actually watched episode 4 yesterday with a friend who hadn't watched it. When it got to the dog shootings, he exclaimed how his girlfriend could never watch this show.

So clearly what I should do is to ignore any and all context to his statement that may have been unspoken (like the fact that she's a animal loving vegan who adores dog especially), don't bring it up for 19 days and then just randomly accuse him of sexist behavior.

Did I get that right?

Actually, you rickroll his girlfriend. Except instead of a rickroll, it's a clip of them shooting pooches.

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

BigglesSWE posted:

I actually watched episode 4 yesterday with a friend who hadn't watched it. When it got to the dog shootings, he exclaimed how his girlfriend could never watch this show.

So clearly what I should do is to ignore any and all context to his statement that may have been unspoken (like the fact that she's a animal loving vegan who adores dog especially), don't bring it up for 19 days and then just randomly accuse him of sexist behavior.

Did I get that right?

Don't bother answering. Ignorance is bliss, so I'd say you're quite the lucky guy!

Partially correct. Everyone loves dog, therefore it isn’t possible for someone to love dog especially.

illectro
Mar 29, 2010

:jeb: ROCKET SCIENCE :jeb:

Hullo, I'm Scoot Moonbucks.
Please stop being surprised by this.

Unormal posted:

I think the Challenger disaster is probably the most natural second season.

I like this TV movie covering Feynman’s experience with the investigation https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2421662/

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Hurricane Katrina would be an interesting topic as well.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

El_Elegante posted:

Just lol at you breathlessly decrying any criticism of a female character while simultaneously dictating to your girlfriend what she watches and when she does it.

Jesus christ. Stop it

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



CrazyLoon posted:

It's not just a question of how much of russian the english google translation hosed up, but also how much the writer hosed up translating an english show into russian in their head.
I don't quite follow.

Some of the "slights" against the extremely professional people who obviously managed the peaceful atom to the best of their abilities are exaggerated, but the bits about Akimov and Sitnikov seem fairly objective.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


BigglesSWE posted:

The imagery of her husband in his final moments is one of the most unsettling things I've seen on television. I had to make sure that my girlfriend wouldn't watch it before bed, but rather wait till I can watch it with her during daytime, because that scene alone would haunt her dreams for sure.

Doronin
Nov 22, 2002

Don't be scared

BigglesSWE posted:

They should make miniseries depicting the battles of Somme and Passchendaele, some truly man made horror shows, long before radiation poisoning was cool.

When I was working on my history degree, my military history professor owned a rare book that was nothing but images of gruesome WWI injuries and explanations of what happened. But it was all people who survived, at least for a while, and what measures were taken to piece together what was left. Nothing ever published to Rotten or Ogrish even began to reach the fringes of that godamn book.


BigglesSWE posted:

Hurricane Katrina would be an interesting topic as well.

New Orleans is the centerpiece of that, but the Mississippi and Alabama coastlines got wrecked. Waveland, Miss., for example, was virtually wiped out entirely. People in the town where I grew up were living in tents for 8 - 10 months after.

Doronin fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jun 9, 2019

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Farrier Theaks posted:

Ok I got it

The sequel should be about the 737 Max crashes and Boeing's failure to address the problem. Similar enough to Chernobyl in theme but with a cornerstone American company instead of the Soviet government as the nebulous villain. plus it'll make people as afraid of the airline industry as chernobyl made them of nuclear power, so we might see a reduction in unnecessary travel and carbon emissions as a bonus

Alternatively:

https://twitter.com/MarkHertling/status/1137174242083127296?s=20

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Three episodes in and my takeaway so far is how incredible it is that mankind is so anti-euthinasia. Hey buddy, there's a 100% chance that you will slowly melt over the course of ~4 days. You will need to die naturally, though, for reasons.

tomapot
Apr 7, 2005
Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Oven Wrangler
Finally caught up with the last episode, great all the way around. Did Legasov really use those tiles / squares in real life to demonstrate trying to keep the reactor in balance? It really helped me to understand what went on.

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
I don’t think he was even at the trial. It’s better to think of the last episode as a one act play foregrounded by the more historically accurate episodes that came before.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Terrorists all over the world will be happy to hear they can now produce megaton explosions with a big steel tank full of water and some really hot graphite. Showrunners, what have you done ?

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Make docudramas about Hurricane Maria and Flint and maybe Republicans or Elon Musk will finally provide the money to fix that poo poo instead of car tunnels or aircraft carriers.

El_Elegante posted:

I don’t think he was even at the trial. It’s better to think of the last episode as a one act play foregrounded by the more historically accurate episodes that came before.

I really recommend the official podcast because it clarifies questions like this (yeah he wasn't at the trial, but yes it was 20 kilometers from the reactor).

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
Less American stuff please

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


CeeJee posted:

Terrorists all over the world will be happy to hear they can now produce megaton explosions with a big steel tank full of water and some really hot graphite. Showrunners, what have you done ?

Just add uranium.

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fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

BigglesSWE posted:

Hurricane Katrina would be an interesting topic as well.

Ryan Murphy planned to do it as an American Crime Story season but it got axed unfortunately.
Maybe they will revive it because of Chernobyl's success.

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