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Adus
Nov 4, 2009

heck

Khanstant posted:

What was the 15 years later thing we found out was scumbaggy again?

child pornography.

like there's a lot of ways a person can turn out to be a shithead, but that one pretty much takes the cake. like how hosed up do you have to be?

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GuavaMoment
Aug 13, 2006

YouTube dude

Khanstant posted:

What was the 15 years later thing we found out was scumbaggy again?

It's much more complicated than just child porn. Yau-Man explained: https://imgur.com/a/zmHbS

tl;dr: If you've even visited any porn site ever, you could get charged with a handful of counts of child porn, even without manually downloading anything. The police know that charging someone with child porn is a great way to perform character assassination to assist in arresting someone for other (ponzi scheme) poo poo they did. Mike Skupin is a piece of poo poo.

PopZeus
Aug 11, 2010

GuavaMoment posted:

It's much more complicated than just child porn. Yau-Man explained: https://imgur.com/a/zmHbS

tl;dr: If you've even visited any porn site ever, you could get charged with a handful of counts of child porn, even without manually downloading anything. The police know that charging someone with child porn is a great way to perform character assassination to assist in arresting someone for other (ponzi scheme) poo poo they did. Mike Skupin is a piece of poo poo.

Didn’t they literally find it on his laptop though? Not just his browser history. Anyway Mike Skupin is indeed a piece of poo poo.

GuavaMoment
Aug 13, 2006

YouTube dude

PopZeus posted:

Didn’t they literally find it on his laptop though? Not just his browser history. Anyway Mike Skupin is indeed a piece of poo poo.

"On his laptop" could still mean his laptop browser cache. I don't know the exact details, wikipedia just says he was convicted of 4 of 6 counts (I believe Subway Jared was convicted of 1000s of counts for comparison). I'm not defending the man or downplaying anything, and I don't really want to explain more for fear of being accused of defending him. There's a greater truth and a cautionary tale to be told here, is all.

Pawg From Produce
Feb 11, 2019

by FactsAreUseless
Skupin has nothing on Brian Heidek, anyway. People won't even talk about the poo poo they've dug up on him.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

GuavaMoment posted:

"On his laptop" could still mean his laptop browser cache. I don't know the exact details, wikipedia just says he was convicted of 4 of 6 counts (I believe Subway Jared was convicted of 1000s of counts for comparison). I'm not defending the man or downplaying anything, and I don't really want to explain more for fear of being accused of defending him. There's a greater truth and a cautionary tale to be told here, is all.

I don’t know the specifics of Skupin’s case, but Jared was paying people so he could rape their children and was either actively or attempting to pimp others out.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

GuavaMoment posted:

It's much more complicated than just child porn. Yau-Man explained: https://imgur.com/a/zmHbS

tl;dr: If you've even visited any porn site ever, you could get charged with a handful of counts of child porn, even without manually downloading anything. The police know that charging someone with child porn is a great way to perform character assassination to assist in arresting someone for other (ponzi scheme) poo poo they did. Mike Skupin is a piece of poo poo.

Interesting, not as lurid as just CP but netx levbel scumminess regardless.

Pawg From Produce posted:

Skupin has nothing on Brian Heidek, anyway. People won't even talk about the poo poo they've dug up on him.

From his wikipedia page, lied about job when on survivor, assaulted his wife, and shot a dog with an arrow. Really lovely and that last one is a real "what the gently caress" kind of crime but I'm assuming there's something even worse from the way you cryptically alluded to it.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I'm extremely surprised The War Dog didn't have any stories of hunting

PopZeus
Aug 11, 2010
Just checked the Survivor reddit and Skupin had 69 images downloaded on his laptops (and apparently tried to blame both viruses and his son for it) I think Yau Man’s talking out of his rear end a bit which is admittedly not shocking.

Source: http://publicdocs.courts.mi.gov/OPI..._term=control_2

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

Pawg From Produce posted:

Skupin has nothing on Brian Heidek, anyway. People won't even talk about the poo poo they've dug up on him.

Well, that certainly settles the argument -- there's dirt on him that is so much worse than child pornography, we won't even get to learn what it is!

:rolleyes:

SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

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Samurai Warrior
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BE THE WIZARD
Can we stop talking about this poo poo?

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




SweetJahasus posted:

Can we stop talking about this poo poo?

gently caress off

SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

Dragon Slayer
Samurai Warrior
Escape Artist
Viking
Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD

Lone Goat posted:

gently caress off

lmao are you kidding me? Is it offensive to you that some people don't like reading about disgusting shitbag monsters in their fun reality gameshow thread?

Perhaps you should stop getting so mad about people who have children who don't want to sit around reading poo poo like this in their fun Survivor thread:

Bigass Moth posted:

I don’t know the specifics of Skupin’s case, but Jared was paying people so he could rape their children and was either actively or attempting to pimp others out.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

imo we should definitely call out shitbags when it's related to things we consume (and even when it's not tbh) so please continue to do so

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

SweetJahasus posted:

Perhaps you should stop getting so mad about people who have children who don't want to sit around reading poo poo like this in their fun Survivor thread:

How sheltered are your kids going to be if you can't even stand to read about the fact that some Survivors are dangerous, lovely people?

thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jun 10, 2019

SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

Dragon Slayer
Samurai Warrior
Escape Artist
Viking
Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD

thexerox123 posted:

How sheltered are your kids going to be if you can't even stand to read about the fact that some Survivors are dangerous, lovely people?

You're missing the point. This is an internet comedy forum where people try to go and have a relaxing enjoyable time rather than sit around and read about morose terrible things. Discussing poo poo like that here, where everyone already knows the deal and knows it's terrible, is just screaming into the abyss and is accomplishing nothing, least of all entertainment.

You're not standing up to the perpetrators of this or anything, as Skupin surely doesn't read SA, and the fringe virtue signaling you'd "achieve" from expressing your disgust for it all is akin to saying murder is bad. Brave stance.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

SweetJahasus posted:

You're missing the point. This is an internet comedy forum where people try to go and have a relaxing enjoyable time rather than sit around and read about morose terrible things. Discussing poo poo like that here, where everyone already knows the deal and knows it's terrible, is just screaming into the abyss and is accomplishing nothing, least of all entertainment.

You're not standing up to the perpetrators of this or anything, as Skupin surely doesn't read SA, and the fringe virtue signaling you'd "achieve" from expressing your disgust for it all is akin to saying murder is bad. Brave stance.

Someone unironically using the phrase 'virtue signalling' :lol:

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

thexerox123 posted:

How sheltered are your kids going to be if you can't even stand to read about the fact that some Survivors are dangerous, lovely people?

"Mommy, is White Privilege like never getting U-Turned on the Amazing Race?"

SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

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Samurai Warrior
Escape Artist
Viking
Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD

Rarity posted:

Someone unironically using the phrase 'virtue signalling' :lol:

Actually, I was using it very ironically, which is why I put that it's an achievement in quotations.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

SweetJahasus posted:

You're missing the point. This is an internet comedy forum where people try to go and have a relaxing enjoyable time rather than sit around and read about morose terrible things.

Maybe the issue is in your weird baseless expectations about what other people should discuss on the forums? Nobody owes it to you to keep it fun all the time.

God forbid you read something awful on Something Awful.

(Also, the irony of saying that talking about a transgressive act is virtue signaling, while simultaneously pearl-clutching that it's too awful to read about is just stunningly un-self-aware.)

thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jun 10, 2019

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
If I recall correctly, Rob C won't even let people say Skupin's name on his podcast. I think I like it not just to reinforce that :aatrek: is wrong, but rather because erasing the perp from dialogue and relevance is one small part of a fitting punishment.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

Propaganda Machine posted:

If I recall correctly, Rob C won't even let people say Skupin's name on his podcast. I think I like it not just to reinforce that :aatrek: is wrong, but rather because erasing the perp from dialogue and relevance is one small part of a fitting punishment.

I've definitely heard jokes about Skupin in recent years on RHAP, Rob just makes a half amused half disapproving "Ohhhh!" sound to shut it down when it happens.

So I don't think it's outright banned, just acknowledged as an uncomfortable subject that Rob will avoid.

thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jun 10, 2019

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




SweetJahasus posted:

You're missing the point. This is an internet comedy forum where people try to go and have a relaxing enjoyable time rather than sit around and read about morose terrible things. Discussing poo poo like that here, where everyone already knows the deal and knows it's terrible, is just screaming into the abyss and is accomplishing nothing, least of all entertainment.

You're not standing up to the perpetrators of this or anything, as Skupin surely doesn't read SA, and the fringe virtue signaling you'd "achieve" from expressing your disgust for it all is akin to saying murder is bad. Brave stance.

gently caress off for real, though

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Rob just generally seems to avoid anything controversial or too critical of the "players" besides what happened in the game. Like I wouldn't expect him to want to talk about Julia's allegations either.

I understand it but it's not my favorite thing about him.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I'm voting you all off this thread!

PopZeus
Aug 11, 2010
Just finished watching Redemption Island for the first time, what a mess. Maybe the worst batch of Survivor players I’ve seen. Not sure if Rob is a genius cult leader or if they were all just the biggest dopes in the world. Please tell me Philip got some help after this...

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
He got cast in a second season, is what he got.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Propaganda Machine posted:

He got cast in a second season, is what he got.

didn't Francesca also get cast and he voted her out first again

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
Yes.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

PopZeus posted:

Not sure if Rob is a genius cult leader or if they were all just the biggest dopes in the world.

I mean, they're Survivor contestants.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

STAC Goat posted:

Rob just generally seems to avoid anything controversial or too critical of the "players" besides what happened in the game. Like I wouldn't expect him to want to talk about Julia's allegations either.

I understand it but it's not my favorite thing about him.

Corinne Kaplan had a podcast where she'd talk dirt like this but the good stuff was too far and few between.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Yo, this pedophilia derail needs to move along or I will be handing out sixers when I get home.

If people want to discuss sexual assault accusations/charges, take it to the CD thread or I can make one for TVIV.

Thanks!

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Yeah, guys. Get back to discussion about how hot you find the women contestants. That's more appropriate than discussing the behavior of a contestant during a wider conversation about... the behavior of contestants.

This wasn't a derail. It's what the thread is for and you're telling us to discuss this Survivor Reality Show Contestant in an unrelated CineD thread? We didn't break TV IV or Forum rules here except for mod sass.

esperterra posted:

yeah igdi. Catcalling and poo poo like that can be annoying, sure, but poo poo who cares, take it as a compliment, you don't even have to look at them just keep walking who caaaares.

If a dude follows you down the street then that can be harrassment, sure, but lol if you don't like it when people tell you you're sexy.

esperterra posted:

[in a discussion about an abusive sex cult] Mack is insanely hot tho.

But hey, who am I to argue what is appropriate for conversation?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I've got one user semi claiming another is a pedo, and admittedly skimmed the last page or so of the thread, but it seemed heated between two users and that's what I was trying to quell before more reports start rolling in :shrug:

I personally have no issue with people discussing relevant charges against people involved in the thread's topic so long as it doesn't turn into a huge argument. Most people here seem to be discussing it in a civil manner, so I prob shoulda worded my initial post differently.

My personal opinion about enjoying being catcalled is pretty drat irrelevant lmao

fwiw the CD thread about sexual harrassment in hollywood is kind of a blanket thread for both CD/TVIV related stuff, it's just so we don't have two much slower threads about the same subject.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
I must of been skimming myself. All I saw was people making GBS threads on some reality show guy and one forum user getting mad that any discussion about him was happening at all. Then a mod backing him up.

Go ahead and give me the probe for it though. I was being overtly sassy for it and it’d be just terrible if that was for naught.

Zesty fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jun 11, 2019

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I don't think anyone accused anyone of being a pedophile. Unless I missed something. Things seemed relatively calm until someone dropped a "virtue signaling."

Anyway, the topic seemed to have kind of run its course.

thexerox123
Aug 17, 2007

esperterra posted:

I've got one user semi claiming another is a pedo

What? When/where did this happen?

precision
May 7, 2006

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If anyone has a hidden immunity idol, now would be the time to play it

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Can I say something, Jeff?

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