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That was like atomic realpolitik, two superpowers nuking the gently caress out of the contested territory between them while neither got nuked in their heartlands. Also really funny how Germany ended up divided similarly to IRL cold war spheres. It's also likely the closest in-game representation of the Jerusalem Mega LP ending with the skull in space  I wasn't really active in the thread but I've been reading since CK. drat, it's been 2,5 years? Bra-loving-vo sir, this whole thread feels like a book well read. 
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Jun 10, 2019 21:49
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Honestly I just want to know what this does to German culture and literature in the decades to come
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Jun 10, 2019 21:57
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Manchuria seems like a nice place to live.
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Jun 10, 2019 21:58
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MaxieSatan posted:Honestly I just want to know what this does to German culture and literature in the decades to come Hm I think your avatar and custom text is a good guide here maybe.
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tildes posted:What’s the story?? Can't find a link, so I'm not sure if it's apocryphal, but I remember reading an account of a downed American airman being questioned by a Japanese scientist about the Atom Bomb after Hiroshima/Nagasaki, how many more are coming, etc. The airman has no idea, but he bluffs and says America has a ton of them in reserve. The Japanese scientist doesn't buy this, figuring it'd be a few months before the next bomb comes online. However, the scientist still reports the airman's account as evidence that Japan should surrender because he personally opposed continuing the war.
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Jun 10, 2019 22:02
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In this world, Fallout: New Bankfurt will be a critically-acclaimed masterpiece video game.
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Jun 10, 2019 22:11
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 Germany. It died at it lived in this timeline: a horrible hellscape of nothing but war, famine and death.
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Jun 10, 2019 22:13
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Not to bury the lede or anything, but I really love that the Celts managed to dust themselves off from their disastrous amphibious invasion against the Franks in time to launch yet another doomed foray into the Balkans.
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Jun 10, 2019 22:25
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The Germans will probably despise both sides forever. Are there any cities in Europe that were untouched by this or the last war?
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Jun 10, 2019 22:33
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WilliamAnderson posted:The Germans will probably despise both sides forever. Are there any cities in Europe that were untouched by this or the last war? What Germans? All I see is the wasteland.
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Jun 10, 2019 22:43
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V. Illych L. posted:how the gently caress do the russians still have a million and a half of manpower I assume their absorption of Scandanavia helped in some way
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WilliamAnderson posted:The Germans will probably despise both sides forever. Are there any cities in Europe that were untouched by this or the last war? Košice, capital of the Latin Empire. As of the 1900 update it was the 9th largest city in Europe (though I imagine it has shot up in ranking given, um, recent events). Don’t think the Latins have been been in a war since the 1700s either. They managed to sit out March of the Eagles QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jun 10, 2019 |
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Jun 10, 2019 23:10
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drat. It will be a shame to see this LP end, but also a relief because frankly this has probably been the most stressful one I've ever read. I hope you do another LP at some point, though I wouldn't blame you for taking a long break.
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Jun 10, 2019 23:19
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Congratulations, everyone. We won a land war in Europe.
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Jun 10, 2019 23:21
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yeah 10/10 lp probably my all-time favorite paradox lp
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Jun 10, 2019 23:21
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Hashim posted:
The rise of Waono. I'm calling it
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Jun 10, 2019 23:21
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MaxieSatan posted:Honestly I just want to know what this does to German culture and literature in the decades to come Germans invent Kaiju and Super Sentai
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Jun 10, 2019 23:23
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Ibblebibble posted:Congratulations, everyone. We won a land war in Europe. "Won".
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Jun 10, 2019 23:31
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MaxieSatan posted:Honestly I just want to know what this does to German culture and literature in the decades to come Think Belka from Strangereal.
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Jun 10, 2019 23:32
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That fuckin ruled
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Jun 10, 2019 23:40
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Just magnificent, Hashim. I know you’ll get those dastardly Russians next time.
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Jun 10, 2019 23:43
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Well a fitting end. I still think we should have nuked some dirty Balkans and saved poor Bohemians.
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Jun 11, 2019 00:01
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We got almost everything we wanted: exiled Almoravids, Frangleterre gone forever, friendly communists (+the Irish and Benin) on all sides, dominance of Western Europe, North Africa, and the ME... Who can claim it wasn't worth it
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Jun 11, 2019 00:05
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Congratulations. Al Andalusia controls Western Europe, its heartlands were safe from Russian bombs, and the Revolution remains intact. What a happy ending for HoI4!
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Jun 11, 2019 00:05
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30 Years War II
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Jun 11, 2019 00:17
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At least we got Suez 
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Jun 11, 2019 00:26
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Now we just need to mod Twilight Struggle to represent the coming Cold War.
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Jun 11, 2019 00:34
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The slinging nukes back and forth felt real bad, but I imagine before that the nations must've been pulling some firebombing on eachother as well. I know that one of the real-world theories that the soviets had for using nukes was to use them as just really big artillery barrages to march troops through the wasteland right after. I don't suppose that's modeled as a thing in this game. Mizanur's original tree made it look like he wanted to make one big hulking empire, but now there's all these independent (maybe puppet?) states. Maybe Russian and Berber maps will show them all lumped together behind an iron curtain. I feel like at some point these states will start turning on eachother. A strongman totalitarian thing like Mizanur's got going on is going to be very brittle. Russia took a lot of territory out west, and the Balkanoids got neutralized like they wanted, but now they've lost their Arabian and African colonies, so they no longer have their avenue by sea to the rest of the world. Then again, they might be taking Alaska by the look of things? Weird. The war around the Pacific is going to take a while to finally shake out, but it seems like Russia will be kingmaker (literally?). But what really matters is that Cherson's okay. Borders unbreached.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Mizanur's original tree made it look like he wanted to make one big hulking empire, but now there's all these independent (maybe puppet?) states. Maybe Russian and Berber maps will show them all lumped together behind an iron curtain. I feel like at some point these states will start turning on eachother. A strongman totalitarian thing like Mizanur's got going on is going to be very brittle. 1945: morocco and andalusia are friends forever september 1948: mizanur dies october 1948: morocco and andalusia split and morocco seizes the straits again
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SlothfulCobra posted:Mizanur's original tree made it look like he wanted to make one big hulking empire, but now there's all these independent (maybe puppet?) states. Maybe Russian and Berber maps will show them all lumped together behind an iron curtain. I feel like at some point these states will start turning on eachother. A strongman totalitarian thing like Mizanur's got going on is going to be very brittle. The Death of Mizanur
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Jun 11, 2019 01:27
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This was a great LP to read through, Hashim, especially glad that I hopped onto this bandwagon and voted when it had just reached EU4! Honestly with how often nukes were used in this war I wouldn't be surprised if it all ends in nuclear hellfire anyway. And with cobalt bombs, because Al-Andalus is petty enough to use them.
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Jun 11, 2019 01:32
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We can be secure that an entire generation of Russian men have died, weakeningly it horribly in the long term once the war dies down, compared to Andalusia which while having heavy casualties actually has a generation of men to return to rebuild.
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Jun 11, 2019 01:35
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Well. We certainly created a more hellish world than our own timeline. NewMars posted:Well, at least we control most of the world's conventional oil now? No, we don’t. Most of the oil is on the eastern side of the Arabian peninsula, not the western side.
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Jun 11, 2019 01:38
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How close are any other powers to nuclear weapons, primarily Manchuria and the Berber Union (good lord it's big)?
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I just want to be a grump and point out that considering the relatively low rate of bomb production for the historical US everyone is way over budget in this alternate timeline
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ManifunkDestiny posted:How close are any other powers to nuclear weapons, primarily Manchuria and the Berber Union (good lord it's big)? The Berbers already have the nuke. They used it on New York and forced New England to capitulate.
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That last war screen demonstrated a key thing about Russia: they have so much manpower, resources, and industry to draw on. Hashim was fighting at something like 3-1 odds for the last few updates in terms of the number of divisions and factories. They can just shrug off losing ~30 divisions in an encirclement. The Franks had way more resources, were fighting a still mobilizing Russia, and probably had mobile warfare doctrine so they could make progress, but Iberia had less of an uphill struggle and more of a 90* slope. I really want to get my hands on the HoI4 scenario and try fighting them myself.
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Jun 11, 2019 02:35
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Four years of fruitlessly nuking central europe for nothing to change is peak Al Andalus
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Could you imagine the existential terror of living in a Central European city during this war I can't imagine not fleeing to the countryside
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