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Lord_Hambrose posted:I played in a long running Pathfinder campaigns and one of the characters was a really zealous paladin who was expressly a monster hunter style of adventurer. While certainly he fit in just fine for the most part, there was one memorable session where he wiped out a goblin village to a man. One thing we didn't do was frame this as an especially brave and noble thing, and it ultimately lead to an interesting crisis of faith. We also didn't go into more detail that just the broadest strokes, so while it played fine at that particular table if it had been dealt with in a really gleeful way where slaughtering unarmed goblin civilians was overly descriptive it would have been stopped cold. Knowing your table is a huge thing when you are approaching serious issues, so the idea of con games with total strangers going into Hostel territory is unthinkable. Murder... worse than torture?
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Southpaugh posted:I've never run my own game, though I've been threatening to do so for a long time. I'm taking some encouragement from this thread because if I was running a game I would like to see violence have a certain amount of gravity outside of the odd dungeon crawl or whatever, I've been mulling over doing a murder mystery in a pre-revolutionary elven ethnostate. I might give structuring it a go over the weekend. Definitely run your game. Go over to the GM advice thread and ask if you need any specific help but the short version is really just "Clearly and unambiguously explain to your players what you're trying to do and get their enthusiastic buy-in before you even make characters" and you're mostly gonna be fine.
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McKilligan posted:Finally, the perfect campaign for: Okay, yes, I am down for 'Turn Bourgeois'.
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McKilligan posted:Finally, the perfect campaign for:
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Liquid Communism posted:Okay, yes, I am down for 'Turn Bourgeois'. I love the idea but I think the aura's a little underpowered. Other Paladin auras actively boost the party, this one just counters any focus firing that might be going on. Feels weak.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:I love the idea but I think the aura's a little underpowered. Other Paladin auras actively boost the party, this one just counters any focus firing that might be going on. Feels weak. I was thinking it seemed extremely strong, but I haven’t played much 5e. Did they somehow make it so that battles don’t snowball as people go down? I guess it doesn’t stop save-or-suck stuff, but not being able to get defeated in detail seems important.
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Liquid Communism posted:Okay, yes, I am down for 'Turn Bourgeois'. Bigby’s Raised Fist
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Ultiville posted:I was thinking it seemed extremely strong, but I haven’t played much 5e. Did they somehow make it so that battles don’t snowball as people go down? I guess it doesn’t stop save-or-suck stuff, but not being able to get defeated in detail seems important.
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The Aura is small, so mostly it would be divided between you and someone else, that makes it an ok tanking ability in a system that has very few of those. Still I'd rate it as fairly weak compared to other auras.
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I'd like to make a positive shout-out to a FLGS. I was at Games of Berkeley in Berkeley, CA on a Friday night and heard a conversation on why there was not Friday Night Magic going on. The store employee told the curious party they broke it up because the FNMers were "toxic," displaying "misogyny, racism, and homophobia.". Having been under the impression that Magic and by extension FNM were any game store's lifeblood, I think it is excellent that this store would take action*. They have my business whenever I'm in the area. *The employee DID also say some FNM "pro" types were abusing rules to avoid entry fees and not purchasing product and stuff so there was an eye to the bottom line here but I think the store should be lauded nonetheless
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SuperKlaus posted:I'd like to make a positive shout-out to a FLGS. I was at Games of Berkeley in Berkeley, CA on a Friday night and heard a conversation on why there was not Friday Night Magic going on. The store employee told the curious party they broke it up because the FNMers were "toxic," displaying "misogyny, racism, and homophobia.". Having been under the impression that Magic and by extension FNM were any game store's lifeblood, I think it is excellent that this store would take action*. They have my business whenever I'm in the area. What makes it noteworthy is they could have claimed it was because of the rules abuse in an effort to be "neutral" and not offend dipshits but they put it out there that they won't tolerate that sort of behavior instead. Definitely kudos worthy!
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I used to drive out to games of berkeley from sacramento with a friend every couple weeks to play netrunner, its a really good store
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To continue the positivity train, I'd like to recommend Alpha Omega in Quincy, MA. The owners are both very against homophobia and all that umbrella stuff, and have taken steps to throw people out who cause problems. Can we recommend some safe haven game stores so people know the best places to go?
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I was just going to ask myself if we could put in recommendations! GoodGames Indianapolis has a great GM who talked with my wife and I for a moment when I couldn't stop gushing about the fact I could see the product and her store had a real nice atmosphere. We then compared and contrasted some issues I had in my home city with less than assertive game store owners and badly designed shops and she made a very clear statement about anyone who tries to pull the “we cant exclude them just for saying uncomfortable crap,” Was also not welcome in her store along with the bigot they were trying to protect. Somyeah i ever move down to indy, im thinking thats gonna be my main shop!
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RagnarokAngel posted:To continue the positivity train, I'd like to recommend Alpha Omega in Quincy, MA. The owners are both very against homophobia and all that umbrella stuff, and have taken steps to throw people out who cause problems. Thanks for mentioning this, I had no idea the store existed and it's much closer to me than the other places I had frequented before. If I can ever fight off my kids and get out to a store it's good to know one with a positive vibe!
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Does anyone know about Hit Points gaming? The guy is kind of a jerk to his wife and he follows Crowder, but it looks pretty prolific with games I'd like to watch.
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We've reached the point where there is no such thing as a good reason to be following Crowder, I'd call that a safe skip.
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Beerdeer posted:he follows Crowder imma stop you right there Beerdeer posted:but it looks pretty prolific with games I'd like to watch. Yup but it's not everyone. Keep looking.
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Jul 11, 2019 17:17
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Trash Trick posted:comedy forum one weird trick to out yourself as garbage
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I have an immediate reaction to anyone with that many videos about Kingdom Death It's not instantly condemning but it's close
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Argas posted:one weird trick to out yourself as garbage Rap sheet does the same.
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You guys are right, im sorry, it makes perfect sense to be afraid to engage with someones content because they watched crowder, a noted fascist.
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Trash Trick posted:You guys are right, im sorry, it makes perfect sense to be afraid to engage with someones content because they watched crowder, a noted fascist. He seems to follow him, and didn't just watch him once out of morbid curiosity. Did Crowder finally come out as fash? I always had him pegged as a normal racist/homophobic libertarian type for life, but I guess there's a lot of overlap there.
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Deified Data posted:I always had him pegged as a normal racist/homophobic libertarian type for life, but I guess there's a lot of overlap there. It's a distinction without a difference.
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Slimnoid posted:It's a distinction without a difference. I agree I'm just curious what trash trick thinks
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Deified Data posted:I agree I'm just curious what trash trick thinks https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3810864&pagenumber=4789&perpage=40#post471360118
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Deified Data posted:I agree I'm just curious what trash trick thinks I think its retarded to avoid someones vids because they watch a comedian, let alone telling someone else to do so on a comedy forum (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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lol okay then, word
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Crowder would have to be funny, not just an amazing piece of poo poo to be a comedian. If your comedy is constantly making slurs and riffing on stereotypes, then your fans are probably bigoted pieces of poo poo too.
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Trash Trick posted:I think its retarded to avoid someones vids because they watch a comedian, let alone telling someone else to do so on a comedy forum I'm seeing the trash, but when do you do a trick?
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Crowder would have to be funny, not just an amazing piece of poo poo to be a comedian. If your comedy is constantly making slurs and riffing on stereotypes, then your fans are probably bigoted pieces of poo poo too. Deified Data posted:He seems to follow him, and didn't just watch him once out of morbid curiosity. GONNA DROP THIS SHAUN VID RIGHT HERE! Fun fact: Crowder had a Holocaust denier stand in for him as a host one time; along with a general history of having positive interactions with other media personalities who turned out to be white supremacists. That should tell you everything you need to know. This is all covered in the above video. I'd like to point out that Crowder is technically a crypto-fash. Aka someone who hangs around fascists and those who believe in a Master Race, but simultaneously claim that it's the Left who are the Real Racists and those who complain about racism are crying wolf. They don't want to say the quiet part loud because they wish to give their own odious views a plausible level of deniability. Libertad! fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Trash Trick posted:I think its retarded to avoid someones vids because they watch a comedian, let alone telling someone else to do so on a comedy forum Steven Crowder isn't a comedian.
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Crowder is one of the beta-type alt right guys who is too much of a pussy to admit he's alt right and so pretends hes about free speech and 'the loony left' his comedy sketches are stuff like hiring day labourers then screaming at them that hes going to call ICE when they get in his truck, or dressing up in womens clothing to own the libs or something. he's a comedian the same way ben shapiro is an intellectual: not by any measure anyone recognises. juggalo baby coffin fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKzSW6Um9cY I mean, he's also the guy who was just a pretty sizable flashpoint in the 'social media doesn't actually oppress conservatives, in fact it coddles them' convo when after he made constant crazy statements targeting a queer journalist basically for being queer and non-white he got the mildest punishment possible from Youtube after months of the dude documenting straight up targeted abuse from Crowder. He of course still spun it as 'THEY WANT TO SILENCE ME FOR BEING CONSERVATIVE' and got that crowd all fired up, but all it was was he had to link to his 'socialism is for fags' shirts in his description rather than directly monetizing his videos, oh no, the horror. So it's not like he hasn't just been in the news as a huge psycho.
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Trash Trick posted:You guys are right, im sorry, it makes perfect sense to be afraid to engage with someones content because they watched crowder, a noted fascist. People should be afraid of people finding out they watch crowder, like horrified. Also can you maybe just write out your posts by hand instead of typing them into the computer and just flush them down the toilet instead (hth)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLwiPXyFCg this is literally the exact same sort of trolling SA was built on and you guys are saying people shouldnt even watch someones completely unrelated tabletop vids if theres a chance they hit the "like" button, its crazy
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Trash Trick posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLwiPXyFCg Except that SA has evolved with the times, and jokes that were OK 20 years ago are no longer acceptable, because we're actually aware that hateful jokes made ironically are still hateful jokes. Just because SA was originally built upon comedy of the same style doesn't mean that we can't call it out for what it is, utter trash and not acceptable in today's day and age. And to be honest, really wasn't acceptable back then either just nobody was calling that poo poo out yet because it wasn't yet in the cultural consciousness. What we're saying is that if people are liking Stephen Crowder in TYOOL 2019, then they probably find his racist, homophobic, fascistic poo poo funny, and have a high likelihood of having those very same views, or are at least being actively influenced by those views by watching it. If we want to get fascists out of gaming, that means getting influences that have ties to known fascists out of gaming, and confronting the people that have a bunch of red flags.
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berenzen posted:Except that SA has evolved with the times, and jokes that were OK 20 years ago are no longer acceptable, because we're actually aware that hateful jokes made ironically are still hateful jokes. Just because SA was originally built upon comedy of the same style doesn't mean that we can't call it out for what it is, utter trash and not acceptable in today's day and age. And to be honest, really wasn't acceptable back then either just nobody was calling that poo poo out yet because it wasn't yet in the cultural consciousness. What we're saying is that if people are liking Stephen Crowder in TYOOL 2019, then they probably find his racist, homophobic, fascistic poo poo funny, and have a high likelihood of having those very same views, or are at least being actively influenced by those views by watching it. If we want to get fascists out of gaming, that means getting influences that have ties to known fascists out of gaming, and confronting the people that have a bunch of red flags. jesus christ
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