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goodness posted:The machine grows Yeah, I actually grabbed a U-Phoria interface after an old MOTU unit I had been using fried itself to death in a thunderstorm, and Ive been very pleasantly surprised with how good it sounds.
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Check the Behringer website to see if it comes with an actual low latency driver package instead of a link to asio4all. If there are drivers for your OS, it's fine.
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I have a U-Phoria UMC1820 and it's great!
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Some further thoughts on the Deluge... I've discovered the joy of modulating an LFO with another LFO, so now all of my instruments have that woob-wooob-wooob-WOOOB-WOOOB-WOOOOOB-WOOOOB-woooob-woob-woob sound. Definitely can't overdo that sound. Good stuff. Recording notes on the audition pads, and even just programming in notes on the piano roll grid, is a little frustrating. There are only eight rows, so you have exactly one octave of one scale. If you want anything outside that octave, you have to scroll. Worse, if you want to use any notes outside the scale, that now occupies a row, so you've exceeded the eight rows and have to scroll to even get the single octave you had before. And that means four pads up from the tonic may no longer be your 5 note, so inputting notes is even harder. Don't even ask about key changes. I guess I should learn how to play a keyboard. I don't know if that solves the piano roll issue, though. I'm getting better at using the arranger mode, which is a really cool way to turn a loop into a track. I start by making a 3-5 instrument loop that sounds cool, move that into arranger mode, and start making variations, an intro, etc. Pretty soon the song is 2-3 minutes long. You can also tweak a lot of parameters directly in arranger mode, which helps discover some cool automation possibilities for variations. Having the thing record playback directly to the SD card as a WAV is really cool. No need for an audio interface on your computer. ColdPie fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jun 2, 2019 |
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ColdPie posted:Recording notes on the audition pads, and even just programming in notes on the piano roll grid, is a little frustrating. There are only eight rows, so you have exactly one octave of one scale. If you want anything outside that octave, you have to scroll. Worse, if you want to use any notes outside the scale, that now occupies a row, so you've exceeded the eight rows and have to scroll to even get the single octave you had before. And that means four pads up from the tonic may no longer be your 5 note, so inputting notes is even harder. Don't even ask about key changes. I guess I should learn how to play a keyboard. I don't know if that solves the piano roll issue, though. This is slightly related but the thing that is both awesome and frustrating about the Mother-32 is the sequencer. It's extremely flexible, but it also requires a boatload of interface memorization to program with any sort of speed. The fact that it has such a flexible sequencer is the main thing that keeps me from getting a dedicated sequencer module, but that annoyance is always at the back of my mind when I'm using it.
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Do you guys know any nice FM synthesis resources? Everything I can find mostly retreads a very particular slice of introduction to FM, starting with a general overview that amounts to some basic interactions between two operators, ending with three-four examples of basic/classic sounds (piano, brass, pads, etc.) that honestly amount to explaining Yamaha-style envelopes, with the one interesting bit being that the piano is essentially made of two separate sounds. Past that, one is entirely on their own and left to reverse-engineer patches. Ain't there anything in between, nobody sharing their tips, findings and recipes for making the fattest donks, like there's lots for subtractive synthesis?
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Have you read the Sound on Sound Synth Secrets stuff? It talks a bit about the relationship between carrier/operator relationships and harmonics, and I think it mentions the kernel that FM bass was/is sought after cause it's easy to drop an un-modulated sin operator on the fundamental and get a very pure sine at an easily controllable sub frequency that way no matter what else is happening harmonically (which, like, a resonating Moog-style LP filter won't do, for example). Learning how to make the noise of a filter sweeping a saw (?) using two sin waves was an interesting lesson, and widely applicable. Recipe sharing mostly happens in the form of DX7 sysex, which lots of different synths (VSTs too) will read. But at least a couple years ago when I was looking, there wasn't really much out there - it started as a very academic thing, and then the Yamaha lines patented a version that made it to consumers mostly as preset boxes. The synth secrets sections on it are a bit better than most of whats out there, but they definitely left me wanting, and the next step up I could see was cracking academic synthesis textbooks. Also, for fun, analog FM has been getting bigger recently - I forget where exactly I found this but if this is your cup of tea, digging into old Grant Richter Wiard manuals for his oscillators, particularly the Anti-Oscillator, might turn up something about making weird noises with triangle waves. This is kind of a sideshow though, but with the Euro boom recently it's been getting more popular.
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Lichtenstein posted:Do you guys know any nice FM synthesis resources? Howard Massey - The Complete DX7 Yamaha's envelopes aren't that weird, just saddled with the same disease as any digital engineer's wet dream who figured that they now finally should make sforzando possible; split everything up in time/level/rate stuff. Donks are 4 op at most and 2 ops already gets you somewhere. The most important part is to learn that 6-op FM synthesis is composite synthesis. You treat groups of 2 or 3 operators as 3 or 2 oscillators and stack stack stack. I still have no idea how they figured out how to do string sounds, I'm almost thinking they applied analysis to translate it to additive synthesis and then worked out the FM operator ratios back from that.
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Oh to be a wandering billionaire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XrPLBSlopQ
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FM Theory and Applications (Chowning/Bristow, the Chowning who developed digital FM) goes into a lot of detail explaining how you should expect carrier/modulator pairs to introduce new harmonics, stopping short of going through the actual calculations of the Fourier transform. They also talk about how bandwidth limitations specific to the DX7 can be abused for sound design. In the other direction, Element433 has a pretty great series on youtube that show how to build up patches one oscillator at a time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdPa6VLi4GQ
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Philthy posted:Oh to be a wandering billionaire. You'd think that the guy would have a Yamaha GX-1, how disappointing
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Gorewar posted:You'd think that the guy would have a Yamaha GX-1, how disappointing I'm sure his personal PERSONAL collection has even more poo poo.
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this is done! https://imgur.com/a/ZnQfyvd Pretty happy with how it came out. Definitely cant gig with these stands but they're perfect for home use.
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cubicle gangster posted:this is done! Well that's cool.
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poo poo now I've got laser envy worse than ever.
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I was in an OCD mood and decided to buy a few knobs and faceplates so I could get this: First time I feel like the cases are completed. Don't even feel like buying new modules (for now)
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:I was in an OCD mood and decided to buy a few knobs and faceplates so I could get this: None more black How’s the Erica?
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Startyde posted:None more black The sequencer is really nice and they keep updating it. I love the overdrive, the bassline and the cymbals. It's not exactly their techno system though: I swapped a few modules I don't like/need (Toms, sample drum, outputs, modulation) but otherwise they really work well together. It's quite expensive for what is basically a drum machine but it sounds great and is really fun to play with. Also they have announced this lol 
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:... Jealous of the black Keystep. My toys are all black too, I reluctantly got the White Keystep based on all the great reviews, then 2 weeks later they announced the black.
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:The sequencer is really nice and they keep updating it. I love the overdrive, the bassline and the cymbals. It's not exactly their techno system though: I swapped a few modules I don't like/need (Toms, sample drum, outputs, modulation) but otherwise they really work well together. It's quite expensive for what is basically a drum machine but it sounds great and is really fun to play with. Nice lol I actually thought the pricing wasn't bad for what you get. Everything modular is "expensive for what is basically ..." so can't fault them for that  The thing I was mostly interested in when it was announced was the normaling. To what is its extent? And how? Are they running some non-standard signaling over the CV bus or are there other interconnects between the modules and sequencer?
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I'm going to do some soldering this weekend for the first time in while. Just some simple stuff to warm-up.  Tonight: vactrols!
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Startyde posted:Nice lol The drum line modules and the sequencer can be connected internally with some cables sold separately. Of course I bought the first run of the sequencer and of course it's missing the pins to connect those cable and I don't solder. If you buy the techno system it does come internally patched though. I just purchased the modules separately. But I can live with a few more cables in the front. There's also normalling in the dual modules. Dual fx and dual drive have channel one in normalled to two so you can run two effects on the same source
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oh poo poo, just got an email that my VC340 has shipped, guess they're finally in stock! edit: lmao here's an original VP-330 going for $4200- https://reverb.com/p/roland-vocoder-plus-vp-330 Militant Lesbian fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jun 9, 2019 |
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My homemade vactrol LPG is doing great! I'm going to need a lot more practice before trying something bigger, but I'm happy it functions.   
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A local producer is selling his decked-out MPC2000XL for a pretty good price. I've always wanted one and I kind of have the cash to burn... I've always wanted to learn how to make the more 'rootsy' kinds of D&B and Breakbeat that typically involve less synthesizer sound design and more heavy usage (or emulation) of samplers. As someone who enjoys _integrating gear_ I would love the challenge that something like an MPC would introduce to the writing process, but the other part of me is a bit worried that I'm just experiencing GAS symptoms of rationalizing another gear purchase. Thoughts on this? The classic breakbeats do sound loving dope through the MPC, and I'm sure I could wrap my head around using it for basslines and finally getting that proper neuro sound that a synth alone cannot achieve.
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welp I pulled the trigger (xpost from the new instrument/gear purchases thread) I've always wanted one of these and a big local producer just put his up for sale. It's fully expanded, eight outs, FX card, CF reader and everything. Time to install 2KXL and watch hours of tutorial videos, also completely redo my I/O configuration. 
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Mister Speaker posted:welp I pulled the trigger (xpost from the new instrument/gear purchases thread) I am so loving jealous. I make sample-based hip-hop and have been looking for the 2000XL for a while now. And you got it in the sick blue color! Well done sir.
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MrSargent posted:I am so loving jealous. I make sample-based hip-hop and have been looking for the 2000XL for a while now. And you got it in the sick blue color! Well done sir. Thank you chum. The GAS never ends, and I have it bad for like different hobbies right now but music is my first passion... I'm going to get off my rear end and actually start writing some syncopated breakbeat stuff with it. Will make sure to post some stuff along the journey. There's gotta be some packs of the classic breaks already setup for an MPC floating around there, right? Don't get me wrong, I want to dive in and learn to cut my own stuff... I have some particular ideas about slicing up and loving with neuro basses out of my synthesizer, since that's how this stuff was born in the first place, on samplers. But it would be nice to have the classic breaks ready to go on it for jungle madness. Mister Speaker fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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I had a 2000XL for a while but couldn't find the time to learn it properly so I sold it to someone who could. It's super fun even just to play around with, though, and sounds so drat good, you did a good thing taking that beast off the market. I still kinda wish I had it, sometimes, nothing makes beats flow and sound like it.
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Mister Speaker posted:There's gotta be some packs of the classic breaks already setup for an MPC floating around there, right? Don't get me wrong, I want to dive in and learn to cut my own stuff... If you can convert Rex files to whatever format MPC uses I should have a bunch somewhere, that would mean they were sliced correctly at hitpoints and poo poo. Might be an easy jumping off point.
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Chop your beats by hand'n'ear, dammit, and build up those MPC workflow virtuosity muscles. 
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So Math posted:My homemade vactrol LPG is doing great! I'm going to need a lot more practice before trying something bigger, but I'm happy it functions. That's such a cool case idea. Good job and I wish I had any skill with electronics to make things like that. Did a simple breadboard 555 noise maker and just swapped out different resistors/photoresistors just to make different sounds but that's about it.
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Fuckin' Yamaha Montage is ALL I NEED for beats and poo poo. It's ridiculous what it can do. https://soundcloud.com/tom-pellegrino-146151417/time-to-go Punch in the face starts at 1 minute. gently caress yeah. Granted, it's probably costs a little more. Just a little.
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Perpetual Hiatus posted:If you can convert Rex files to whatever format MPC uses I should have a bunch somewhere, that would mean they were sliced correctly at hitpoints and poo poo. Might be an easy jumping off point. Come to think of it I think I have the Jungle Warfare breaks in REX already, thanks for the reminder. I haven't even set it up yet, need more cables and to figure out how I'm going to route everything.
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Fors Yard posted:That's such a cool case idea. Good job and I wish I had any skill with electronics to make things like that. Did a simple breadboard 555 noise maker and just swapped out different resistors/photoresistors just to make different sounds but that's about it. If they put the patch points/power inputs on the back end of the cassettes instead of the sides/top you could have an entire rack setup that just looks like a bunch of VCR tapes on a shelf. Then there could also be a "VHS vs BETA" format war for this new synth standard.
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stillvisions posted:If they put the patch points/power inputs on the back end of the cassettes instead of the sides/top you could have an entire rack setup that just looks like a bunch of VCR tapes on a shelf.  I'm not quite happy with the exposed holes on the bottom, but the reels take up a lot of space if I leave them in. I guess with your way I could just leave the cassette in the cardboard box? That will have to wait, though -- next project is a bipolar rectifier in a spice jar. I reverse engineered the schematic looking at the build instructions for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuFjYCd-yf8 So Math fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jun 12, 2019 |
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Mistayke posted:Fuckin' Yamaha Montage is ALL I NEED for beats and poo poo. It's ridiculous what it can do. If I had a montage, I’d be quoting 30 Rock every single time I walked by it.
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So this thing is very nicely built with thick wood endpieces, the keybed feels good (same as any midrange Yamaha/Roland/Korg/Sequential/etc synth), and sounds great... except there's no sound out of the mains, only the headphone jack. Looks like Behringer QC is still doing it's (lack of any)thing!
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Guess I'm two-for-two for Behringer items purchased vs. Behringer items that have something that doesn't work
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