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It’s so crazy, like we’ve been on dual core/quad core since 2006. And all of a sudden we’re at quad core 13” pros and 6- and then 8(!)- core 15” models and iMacs. I think if it weren’t for all of the bad blood regarding the keyboard and thermals the 2018 and especially 2019 models would feel like real quantum leaps. There are models like the 2011 Air and 2013 rMBP that everybody cites as their favorites because the chipsets inside really let the hardware shine for the first time. Whereas the 2010 Air and first gen rMBP suffered slightly for pioneering cutting edge tech and design with somewhat under-equipped silicon, both revisions saw major performance gains that made the Air’s new form factor or the rMBP’s Retina display the new standard. And it’s a shame that these new MBP’s won’t get nearly the same love because their design still has too many caveats.
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Thanks Bob Morales, really appreciate the explanation. I didn't realize they were selling last year's MBP! I ordered a specced one from the Store because I need it and the Adoramo was backordered. Now to figure out how to destroy the data on my '13 MBA SSD and scrap it
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I saw something that warned hyperthreading might have to be nerfed or ditched altogether because of these Intel CPU exploits. Which means we really need those extra cores. Or a new chip manufacturer. 
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Electric Bugaloo posted:It’s so crazy, like we’ve been on dual core/quad core since 2006. And all of a sudden we’re at quad core 13” pros and 6- and then 8(!)- core 15” models and iMacs. I think if it weren’t for all of the bad blood regarding the keyboard and thermals the 2018 and especially 2019 models would feel like real quantum leaps. Krispy Wafer posted:I saw something that warned hyperthreading might have to be nerfed or ditched altogether because of these Intel CPU exploits. Which means we really need those extra cores. Not that it matters if AMD ends up kicking their rear end anyway. How long until the Jim Keller led Intel chips come out 
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Gay Retard posted:I wonder if we'll ever see Ryzen CPUs in Apple computers. Apple went all-in on ThunderBolt 3 and I don't think AMD supports that yet do they?? Not that Apple couldn't get that ball rolling if they wanted to. Not sure how AMD matches up on the power side of thigns either.
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The new AMD 7nm Ryzen with 16 cores is the talk of the tech town right now. Supposed to be a gaming beast.
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Mu Zeta posted:The new AMD 7nm Ryzen with 16 cores is the talk of the tech town right now. Supposed to be a gaming beast. The next generation AMD Epyc CPUs will be up to 64 core / 128 thread and will steal Intel's lunch money.
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Bob Morales posted:Apple went all-in on ThunderBolt 3 and I don't think AMD supports that yet do they??
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Bob Morales posted:Apple went all-in on ThunderBolt 3 and I don't think AMD supports that yet do they?? Otherwise in the future there should be more implementations cause TB3 is part of USB 4...although I think optional. And knowing USB, god knows what the hell the actual name for the different variants will be.
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You'd think Apple or the resellers would be blowing out the 2018's....So many coupon codes and deals in the past but now that I am looking for a newer 15" there's none to be found
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Apparently the “Pro Workflow Team”, the team that had a lot of say in the new Mac Pro, is also working closely on the new MacBook Pro: https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/1138945338939568128 (I’d love to see a 14” Pro and really I hope they don’t get rid of the TouchBar)
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Spime Wrangler posted:16” MacBook Pro Pro starting at $4999 Charger sold separately for $299 *skips to next slide* Seriously though, just fix the keyboard and put a bigger heatsink in there and it’s fine. I personally am past the point of complaining about the lack of USB-A and SD-card readers. eames fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Gay Retard posted:Apparently the “Pro Workflow Team”, the team that had a lot of say in the new Mac Pro, is also working closely on the new MacBook Pro: When I see the video of the Pro Workflow Team stomping on Jony Ive like that Achewood comic of everyone pouncing on the guy who invented Comic Sans, then I'll be satisfied.
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Binary Badger posted:When I see the video of the Pro Workflow Team stomping on Jony Ive like that Achewood comic of everyone pouncing on the guy who invented Comic Sans, then I'll be satisfied. Anybody hating on Jony is a joke.
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LionArcher posted:Anybody hating on Jony is a joke. I get you, but I still have my suspicions that he's responsible for some of the poo poo we didn't need or was taken away.
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eames posted:Seriously though, just fix the keyboard and put a bigger heatsink in there and it’s fine. I personally am past the point of complaining about the lack of USB-A and SD-card readers. Apple did somehow manage to solve the thermals in the 2019 MBP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxocVricANg
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LionArcher posted:Anybody hating on Jony is a joke.
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Binary Badger posted:I get you, but I still have my suspicions that he's responsible for some of the poo poo we didn't need or was taken away. The thin thing sure, but the keyboard happened around the time he was off designing Christmas trees or whatever the gently caress. He took a break for a year or two, and it was right before the worst starting happening design wise. About a year and a half ago he went back to being at the design lab full time, and right after that Apple poo poo starting getting better again. His track record over the last 20 years is nuts. Even if he slipped in the last few years, between the new Mac Pro and the overall record you bet your butt I want him working on the new MacBook pros. My hope is they outright steal the thinkpad keyboards and then boast its brilliant somehow and theirs 
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https://www.macrumors.com/2019/06/13/apple-seven-new-macs-eurasian-database/ WTF?! Are three of these new iPads or something? Retina MacBooks and Airs need 2019 models, but how do you spread that among 7 different SKUs? This oughta be something I hope, unless it's $5000 laptops.
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Spime Wrangler posted:16” MacBook Pro Pro starting at $4999  This is gonna happen
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My kid got a MBA as an early graduation gift and she was talking about her friend's MBP the other day, marveling at the touchbar. Then she said her friend had something she could plug into her ports so she could use them and could I get her one of those. Apparently I never sat her down to have the Birds and the Dongles talk. Kid's been using this for 4 months and hasn't been able to use her USB ports.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxocVricANg LTT computer toucher can't figure out what Apple did to the 2019 rMBP to allow it to perform better than the previous 2018 and even a similarly equipped PC laptop with similar speed CPU (other than undervolting) I dunno.. it's.. aliens?
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Godzilla07 posted:Apple did somehow manage to solve the thermals in the 2019 MBP: I'm losing it at this goofy rear end thumbnail
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FCKGW posted:I'm losing it at this goofy rear end thumbnail  it is a work of art. I didn't watch the whole video but it sounds like Apple kindly asked Intel to get better binned, higher quality silicon with lower stock SVIDs. That and new TIM would explain the difference.
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Krispy Wafer posted:My kid got a MBA as an early graduation gift and she was talking about her friend's MBP the other day, marveling at the touchbar. Then she said her friend had something she could plug into her ports so she could use them and could I get her one of those. I don’t get it. What was wrong with the ports?
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Sri.Theo posted:I don’t get it. What was wrong with the ports? They are USB-C
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why are you people linking manic pixie clownshoes dipshit videos without nms tags
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LionArcher posted:The thin thing sure, but the keyboard happened around the time he was off designing Christmas trees or whatever the gently caress. He took a break for a year or two, and it was right before the worst starting happening design wise. About a year and a half ago he went back to being at the design lab full time, and right after that Apple poo poo starting getting better again. This. Also you have to assume that during the break he managed to procure some more of Dieter Rams' freeze-dried corpse to snort for inspiration.
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Ives was responsible for the hockey puck mouse. I bet he had a hand in that thing you squeezed instead of clicked too. My confidence in his ability to design input devices is suspect. The keyboard would have probably been worse had he helped.
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Just imagine what could be done if they ever agreed that, okay, these things are thin enough now, and we'll deign to make them a millimeter or two thicker in order to accommodate a keyboard with individually replacable caps and a less delicate mechanism or a slightly bigger heatsink. Or a camera array that doesn't jut out from the back of your phone, even.
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Fedule posted:Just imagine what could be done if they ever agreed that, okay, these things are thin enough now, and we'll deign to make them a millimeter or two thicker in order to accommodate a keyboard with individually replacable caps and a less delicate mechanism or a slightly bigger heatsink. Or a camera array that doesn't jut out from the back of your phone, even. i don't think it's actually about thinness. they just need the "best" keyboard and copying the same one that some pc manufacturer uses just won't do you can get laptops with reasonable keyboards that are as thin or thinner than the mbp and comparable in every other way
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Fedule posted:Just imagine what could be done if they ever agreed that, okay, these things are thin enough now, and we'll deign to make them a millimeter or two thicker in order to accommodate a keyboard with individually replacable caps and a less delicate mechanism or a slightly bigger heatsink. Or a camera array that doesn't jut out from the back of your phone, even.
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Fedule posted:Just imagine what could be done if they ever agreed that, okay, these things are thin enough now, and we'll deign to make them a millimeter or two thicker in order to accommodate a keyboard with individually replacable caps and a less delicate mechanism or a slightly bigger heatsink. Or a camera array that doesn't jut out from the back of your phone, even. That isn't the Apple way. Their goal is to make a laptop so thin it becomes a singularity and Jony Ive can vanish up his own rear end.
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Binary Badger posted:https://www.macrumors.com/2019/06/13/apple-seven-new-macs-eurasian-database/ I really wonder what this is all about. Can't be ARM Mac related or we would've heard hints at WWDC. MBPs just received a speed bump. I'm guessing it has to do with Ice Lake/Sunny Cove, these are officially confirmed for the 9-28W range which would cover the the 12" Macbook and 13" MBA/MBP range. They could also be non-touchbar versions of the current MBPs. eames fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jun 14, 2019 |
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OWC released a new SSD, the Aura Pro X2 https://www.anandtech.com/show/14382/the-owc-aura-pro-x2-ssd-review-nvme-for-older-macs
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With a bunch of soldering or a Chinese FPGA re-programmer, you too can have a working 2011 MBP again https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/permanently-disable-2011-15-17-macbook-pro-dedicated-gpu-gmux-ic-bypass.2134019/
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I am upgrading someones 2012 MBP from the 500 GB spinning HDD to an SSD. I don’t want to deal with legacy cruft or transferring from the dying hard drive. Should I just tell them to put everything on iCloud and do a fresh install on the SSD? What unforeseen problems could this create?
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