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Demonicpoodle posted:Her situation's also fun. For someone reading for the first time that gets to the end of Fishman Island when Luffy says he'll beat her rear end up and down the New World, if you asked them "How will things go with Big Mom?" They'd generally of course say "Luffy will defeat her at Whole Cake Island". big mom is the first villain who got so ripshit pissed at luffy she chased him right into the next story arc
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I'm not ruling out that Luffy solos Kaido but it crippled him for life, thereby allowing weaker villains to continue to present a meaningful threat. That said, many of One Piece's early arcs had Luffy as the clear king shitwrecker of the local neighbourhood and generated tension from the villains going after vulnerable people and/or incapacitating him, so that's a well Oda can return to.
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Jun 11, 2019 21:49
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there is no goddamn way luffy will get a permanent debuff
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Jun 11, 2019 21:58
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can't wait to buy my wheelchair luffy figurine in 2020.
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Luffy has not really beaten a major opponent one on one since Hody, unless you count Katakuri but that had a lot of complications and it's hard to say Luffy won cleanly. I don't expect this aspect of New World arcs to change and kinda don't want it to. Pirates are about crews, not individuals.
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Jun 11, 2019 22:44
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U-DO Burger posted:there is no goddamn way luffy will get a permanent debuff Yeah. There have been shonen manga that have done things like that (Kenshin is the best-known example, I believe, and Gon is still depowered in Hunter x Hunter), but I don't think One Piece will do something like that. Luffy just isn't going to beat Kaido one-on-one. He might beat Blackbeard or Imu one-on-one later on, but he's not going to reach that level yet.
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kaido might be defeated this arc but certainly not at the hands of luffy alone
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Jun 11, 2019 22:55
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i was curious and it looks like King (Kaidou's nazi bondage pterodactyl number 2 guy) might be (lame speculation) the previous warden of impel down before shiryu. He has the same weird badges that shiryu did, which in turn look similar to the skulls that magellen had. Also would make sense for the previous warden to be into torture given how much magyellen forbade it. He also looks like a mashup of magellen and Shiryu.
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Silver2195 posted:Yeah. There have been shonen manga that have done things like that (Kenshin is the best-known example, I believe, and Gon is still depowered in Hunter x Hunter), but I don't think One Piece will do something like that. The first example is literally the end of the manga though, and Gon being depowered was to move the spotlight to other characters before his eventual and inevitable return (so long as Togashi doesn't die before). I can't imagine Oda doing the same, simply because One Piece is very much Luffy's Story and thus will continue to hover around Luffy.
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well someone needs an eye patch
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I feel like if anyone is going to get an eyepatch / peg leg / hook hand it’ll wind up being Blackbeard. He’s definitely the most “traditional” pirate in One Piece
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Brook will get the eyepatch, even though he has no eyes 
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Can't believe Zoro opted out of an eyepatch.
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Kild posted:well someone needs an eye patch if luffy loses an eye he'll just drink some milk to regenerate it
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Luffy chooses to wear an eyepatch because it looks cool
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I was imagining that this was the reason Blackbeard's Post-Timeskip design was kept hidden for so long; he was gonna be the eyepatch pirate since Oda said he was gonna save it for someone special. Who more special than the man named after the most famous pirate to ever live?
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Viridiant posted:Can't believe Zoro opted out of an eyepatch. That eye's opening up when he fights the mob boss for real
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U-DO Burger posted:if luffy loses an eye he'll just drink some milk to regenerate it That was such a great troll moment.
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Cat Machine posted:Shanks, Blackbeard and Akainu at the very least It’s gonna be something to do with the Rocks pirates. Whoever was in charge of that group probably holds the last road poneglyph
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Blackbeard is gonna get the eyepatch after he frags Shanks
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HerraS posted:Blackbeard is gonna get the eyepatch after he frags Shanks im almost scared that when this arc ends with kaido and big mom down and out luffy finally gets out of wano and finds out that BB already merked shanks while the revolutionaries started war with the WG
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U-DO Burger posted:there is no goddamn way luffy will get a permanent debuff He will, but it'll be only for the duration of his fight with Blackbeard or whatever arc that may be if Blackbeard figures out how to boost the range or selectively depower fruit users.
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I'm willing to bet pretty hard that the final fight against Blackbeard is gonna be Luffy without his essential elements - no strawhat, no crew, no rubber powers - as as a kind of narrative test of his willpower. I see it going down very similar to the last fight in Baron Omatsuri and Film Z.
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Fully expecting the strawhats to pull both Warlords to Blackbeard's place after Mom finds out that Kaidou is hoarding all the food and just Walks In
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Cat Machine posted:I'm willing to bet pretty hard that the final fight against Blackbeard is gonna be Luffy without his essential elements - no strawhat, no crew, no rubber powers - as as a kind of narrative test of his willpower. I see it going down very similar to the last fight in Baron Omatsuri and Film Z.
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Death Bot posted:Fully expecting the strawhats to pull both Warlords to Blackbeard's place after Mom finds out that Kaidou is hoarding all the food and just Walks In I want this to happen now. Just have the rest of the New World as a ridiculous scramble to the end as all the Emperors are all gunning for each other while at the same time chasing down Luffy for being a gigantic spanner in the works. And then Shanks just shows up and is like 
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DizzyBum posted:I want this to happen now. Just have the rest of the New World as a ridiculous scramble to the end as all the Emperors are all gunning for each other while at the same time chasing down Luffy for being a gigantic spanner in the works. And then Shanks just shows up and is like While the WG pulls out every stop and probably a couple of ancient superweapons to come after them because on top of likely a massive civil war and/or revolution the last thing they ever want is another Pirate King.
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Cat Machine posted:I'm willing to bet pretty hard that the final fight against Blackbeard is gonna be Luffy without his essential elements - no strawhat, no crew, no rubber powers - as as a kind of narrative test of his willpower. I see it going down very similar to the last fight in Baron Omatsuri and Film Z. Bit of a tangent, but in retrospect Baron Omatsuri somehow manages to sort of nail the post-timeskip tone despite coming out in 2006. Also, it's the best One Piece film and everyone should watch it.
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CodfishCartographer posted:I have the feeling Sengoku might be the strongest dude on the planet, but is so chill he never really goes full force. We saw him Hulk out a whopping one time, and it seemed like it was some serious goddamn poo poo. I'm thinking it's something like: Kaido strongest physically Blackbeard strongest devil fruit Shanks strongest haki
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LostRook posted:I'm thinking it's something like: Big Mom seems to basically average out in all three categories in comparison.
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No Wave posted:But haki already is a narrative manifestation of willpower! That's the point.
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Tolth posted:Bit of a tangent, but in retrospect Baron Omatsuri somehow manages to sort of nail the post-timeskip tone despite coming out in 2006. Agreed. Mamoru Hosoda needs to direct another One Piece film.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Big Mom seems to basically average out in all three categories in comparison. mom's devil power sucks if theyre not afraid though i'm guessing mother carmel didn't get much use out of it except for whatever she took of her own soul
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Snazzy Frocks posted:mom's devil power sucks if theyre not afraid though Anyone not afraid of death, to be clear. I actually think it would work on Blackbeard, but not someone like Kaido.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:mom's devil power sucks if theyre not afraid though Hahahahahahaha what??  She created an island full of her army, and a weather control system via her power. E: maybe a better example is the # of people that can fly thanks to their fruits. Enel? Doffy? Cant think of many more, but big mom's fruit does Ubiquitus fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Oda claimed years ago there were only 5 flying devil fruit users but I think that just cant be true anymore. Pell Marco King Kaido Bigma Doflamingo Then you can point out that doflamingo isnt technically flying and bigma isnt technically flying but if people who can grant themselves flight with their df dont count then what was he even tracking, the # of flappy birds? My guess is flight ended up too useful a logistical mechanic to use as sparingly as Oda intended ages ago.
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Well theres always the loophole of "Five known devil fruits", and I think Lafitte is definitely one of those since he shows up on the roof of Marijois mysteriously in the same chapter. Buffalo could fly too, or whatever the rotating man from Dolflamingos family was called.
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is smoker a flyer? was ace? wasn't perona always floating?
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Karasu. Marco too. I feel like there's a lot. There's bound to be bird zoans out there we haven't seen yet.
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Yeah I can't see there being only 5 just from different models of birds, insects, mythical types, ancient types, etc, much less just a "Float Float Fruit" or other weird stuff. But that does seem to be from an era/region when/where knowledge about a bunch of this stuff is super limited. Like how there's legitimately a ton of people who are clueless about haki, not just Luffy being a dope but even Coby needing to be told what it is, even tho it is a major part of the world and now is everywhere.
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