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ahhh, swish bush did 9/11
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/borzou/status/1139240425699590144 IMHO it probably was Iran. Different leaders with different alignments have been on the record that "if we're not allowed to trade, no one gets to trade." They've probably made the calculation that there won't be any substantial reprisals from the US - especially if these attacks are so minor in scale that no one is injured and the sailors get to have some tea afterwards. Namely, any minor action that might ensue still poses less threat than lack of goods, high prices, unemployment, etc. while the government is still dealing with some of the worst flooding in recent history. Despite the German visit and some optimism about Instex, Khomenei has been really dismissive of it as a meaningful response to the US's rogue state behavior. I'm saying this as my family in Europe is sending necessary medical supplies to my family in Iran because of these idiotic secondary sanctions. That being said, Iran has just cause - especially if they were just attacked the day before. Even if it's UAE, KSA, or anyone else - it's not like they'll do poo poo about it without the US doing something first. It could be staged and I'd easily believe it, but I'd put my money on the opposite. In other news, Iran did release a US resident accused of spying as a carrot of sorts: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48593391 again proving it's the Most Morale Islamic Hegemon instead of Khashogging him. e: Also worth identifying the absurd arrogance of KSA/UAE. Iran has been willing to have talks with them but they're too intransigent and stubborn. guidoanselmi has issued a correction as of 21:40 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Jun 13, 2019 21:37
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THS posted:im gay 
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Jun 13, 2019 21:48
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guidoanselmi posted:IMHO it probably was Iran.
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/borzou/status/1139240425699590144 lmao we need to deploy pattern recognition. so for instance, if this is the beginning of a pattern of weird poo poo done for no reason, then
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Fast Luck posted:IMHO it probably was not Iran. Whichever way, asserting Iran's right to self-defense from inhumane sanctions is a better position to take than clinging to the hope they didn't do it if the media relents and believes in the administration. Precisely because of idiot democrats like https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1139253097220456448
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Jun 13, 2019 23:03
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lol these tanker attacks are 100% the saudis trying to false flag trump into doing something
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guidoanselmi posted:Whichever way, asserting Iran's right to self-defense from inhumane sanctions is a better position to take than clinging to the hope they didn't do it if the media relents and believes in the administration. "Self-defense" doesn't work if you can't claim credit for an attack, and the US/Saudis are chomping at the bit for some kind of military action against Iran that will make their situation even worse. This sort of analysis doesn't make any sense on its face, especially when this doesn't really count as a tit-for-tat attack. If it was an attack on infrastructure that would be tit-for-tat, not an attack on a Japanese ship.
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Jun 14, 2019 00:50
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Iran attacked a Japanese ship while meeting with the prime minister of japan because they’re so crazy and evil
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:lol so this is 100% the saudis huh the yanks attacking a japanese oil tanker doesn't sound right - that's how you run out of friends. the saudis don't give a gently caress about what japan thinks otoh
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Jun 14, 2019 01:53
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THS posted:im gay Go Raptors
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Well, if the mines were meant to sink the ships they would have been placed below the waterline. That's their reason for being. Instead, they've been placed above the water line. The ships are damaged and there's some scary looking footage, including of a mine being removed by the Iranian Coast Guard. If Iran is doing this, it's doing this to make it look like someone is trying to make Iran look bad. But I figure the attackers have Saudi ties because Saudi Arabia.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:"Self-defense" doesn't work if you can't claim credit for an attack, and the US/Saudis are chomping at the bit for some kind of military action against Iran that will make their situation even worse. This sort of analysis doesn't make any sense on its face, especially when this doesn't really count as a tit-for-tat attack. If it was an attack on infrastructure that would be tit-for-tat, not an attack on a Japanese ship. I don't know what analysis you're referring to here if you're expecting me to defend or justify it.
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Jun 14, 2019 07:13
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clearly japan did it to gain leverage during the negotiations
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Jun 14, 2019 07:14
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abe's resurgence of japanese supremacy in the western pacific and indian ocean is manifesting ask we speak
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RIICHI
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Jun 14, 2019 07:56
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Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere 2.0
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o'then rishii
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Jun 14, 2019 07:58
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https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1139264349300830208 pussied out by not saying 9/11 was an inside job smdh
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comedyblissoption posted:RIICHI hope i'm not the only one who heard this in kiryu-san's voice
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Jun 14, 2019 10:50
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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1139481358139559936
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Jun 14, 2019 12:19
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A ship leaving the UAE for the Indian Ocean would have to have its starboard side pointing towards the Arabian peninsula. lmao
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Jun 14, 2019 12:24
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lol @ the idea of trying to concoct a false flag and you let the victim of your attack easily discredit you
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Jun 14, 2019 12:32
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in the old days these guys would have kept their mouths shut. this is one of those things that shows you how much the empire's declining
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Jun 14, 2019 12:35
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meanwhile brown moses and volkerball are convinced that an attack without a iranian motive and that was apparently designed to do nothing more than put a hole in some sheet metal is a sign that the revolutionary guard unilaterally ordered the attack
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Jun 14, 2019 14:30
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how do you look at this farce and not come to the conclusion its some hairbrained scheme cooked up by trump and MBS
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Jun 14, 2019 14:32
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Start writing and calling Congress critters about adamantly opposing Iran war
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Jun 14, 2019 14:32
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I was wrong - they were not given tea. https://twitter.com/PressTV/status/1139226592167780352
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[Dune voice] plans within plans...
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Raskolnikov38 posted:how do you look at this farce and not come to the conclusion its some hairbrained scheme cooked up by trump and MBS easily, if you're one of the axis of evil (US, Israel, UAE, and Saudi A (thats right bitch this axis has FOUR)) or afraid of them
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sick zip everywhere posted:clearly japan did it to gain leverage during the negotiations this is called a power move
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this false flag poo poo funny to me. everyone so easily forgets that mbs ordered the murder of a prominent dissident journalist in a saudi consulate. you think he's above ordering attacks on foreign shipping in an attempt to give the us a reason to attack iran?
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Jun 14, 2019 15:32
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Another oopsie by our good saudi friends
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Jun 14, 2019 16:00
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They were just trying to interrogate the tankers and things got a little out of hand 
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Jun 14, 2019 16:28
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dont read the d&d thread. just dont
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THS posted:dont read the d&d thread. just dont
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Darkman Fanpage posted:this false flag poo poo funny to me. everyone so easily forgets that mbs ordered the murder of a prominent dissident journalist in a saudi consulate. you think he's above ordering attacks on foreign shipping in an attempt to give the us a reason to attack iran? There's probably a giant, game-show personal check from MBS to Eric Prince. The "For" line says "War with Iran" The check is in the oval office, because Trump likes big things.
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