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Kraftwerk posted:This is a good point. Okay which one of you dorks is Ahmed Hussein https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rural-north-immigration-pilot-1.5175418 quote:Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen is making a formal announcement today in Sault Ste. Marie, Ont.
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infernal machines posted:The assassin's guild lobbying against anti-murder legislation Well, I've never been assassinated, so I don't really see what the big deal is.
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Why does Vernon need economic renewal? It's got a thriving underground economy. The west side of Vancouver probably has more people living in poverty than Vernon. Or even Brandon. Maybe we should try to attract immigrants there?
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I'm going through the PR process atm so I'm Interested and Have Opinions about this. If it's taking the atlantic immigration pilot program as a baseline, you'll see three streams: - People who studied in those areas; - People who have a serious education and have been doing 'professional' jobs for at least a few years and have found someone to offer them one locally; - People who have been doing crappy but not necessarily unskilled jobs for a few years and etc (home help nurses, cooks etc) I could see them adding an agricultural labour portion to it too I guess? Or maybe just a 'local resource' type thing, like decontamination specialists for Sudbury  Generally speaking people in the first two categories would have been able to immigrate anyway, something like this will just make it easier or faster, maybe make it possible for some people who wouldn't quite have met the federal points requirement if they're willing to move to one of these places that don't see much immigration - which seems fair enough. Not likely to change numbers all that much IMO, might redistribute where people go a little bit. For the third category it'll be more meaningful as it's harder nowadays for companies to get all the paperwork required to import a bunch of people to do those sorts of jobs than it was a few years back. I imagine Vernon in particular will essentially amount to a bunch of businesses going to the city and saying 'hey, all the Indians and Filipinos we had come over a decade ago have their PR sorted now and are trickling away to jobs and/or places that actually pay decently, help us not have a labour shortage/have to pay people more' [delete as appropriate]; there will be other arguments that also hold more or less water depending on how you look at them, like the lack of people willing to work in the care homes that all those sun-chasing Okanagan retirees are going to start needing soon [because they pay like poo poo]. I've already noticed quite a bit of snickering about the little villages in Manitoba applying for it but they'll have been looking at the example of Morden, not too far down the road, which has been running its own little immigration sub-program for a while with by all accounts a reasonable degree of success - I don't think too many people stick around for the long term but f.e the doctor I just went and saw for my immigration medical exam the other week spent his first few years in Canada there specifically because of that.
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flakeloaf posted:THAT'S THE loving POINT YOU TOADS But what about the growth, the growth!? Rich people can't just get richer every year, they have to get more richer this year than they did the last
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lmao imagine living in Alberta or Ontario or BC or Manitoba or Saskatchewan or Quebec or Nova Scotia or PEI or NL or NB or the territories gently caress
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mik posted:lmao imagine living in Alberta or Ontario I mean really that's been my question for some time now, where exactly does one retreat to in Canada... from Canadian Provinces?
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McGavin posted:
Is that Laura Loomer?
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Syfe posted:I mean really that's been my question for some time now, where exactly does one retreat to in Canada... from Canadian Provinces? It's balls because for all the land we technically occupy, 99% of it is effectively wasteland with no jobs. If I won the lottery I'd go live somewhere nice and quiet that never goes above 20c. I don't see how it's possible otherwise.
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Syfe posted:I mean really that's been my question for some time now, where exactly does one retreat to in Canada... from Canadian Provinces? Portland Oregon
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Syfe posted:I mean really that's been my question for some time now, where exactly does one retreat to in Canada... from Canadian Provinces? Having finished another corporate tax return at work today, I noticed one of the options under "province of jurisdiction" said "Nova Scotia offshore". I don't know where that is, but you could try that.
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incontinence 100 posted:Portland Oregon The one with Nazi cops or where the dream of the nineties is still alive?
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Syfe posted:I mean really that's been my question for some time now, where exactly does one retreat to in Canada... from Canadian Provinces? Crown territory. Most of Canada is uninhabited and our population is way too small to enforce sovereignty outside of cities.
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Volunteering for prostate run again this week. Just a reminder that cancer sucks and volunteering is cool and good 😎
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Syfe posted:I mean really that's been my question for some time now, where exactly does one retreat to in Canada... from Canadian Provinces? Claim your dormant 5% native american DNA and go live on the rez.
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cowofwar posted:Volunteering for prostate run again this week. Just a reminder that cancer sucks and volunteering is cool and good 😎 My mom just had her first chemo yesterday. gently caress cancer and you are awesome.
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The Butcher posted:Well, I've never been assassinated, so I don't really see what the big deal is. Oooo... Look at Mr. "I've never been assassinated" over here.
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Furnaceface posted:My mom just had her first chemo yesterday. My serious condolences. Mine had her first recently 
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PittTheElder posted:I'm curious to see what a concerted number of strikers could do with some non-violent traffic interference. It expect it would be easy to bring Calgary and Edmonton to a screeching halt by fouling up the major arteries at rush hour via some safe incompetence. Hell, we already have that happening inadvertently due to construction.
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It's about time this thread revives the annex Turks and Caicos idea
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cowofwar posted:Volunteering for prostate run again this week. Just a reminder that cancer sucks and volunteering is cool and good 😎 How do you run a prostate? Do you let it out on a butt plug leash or something?
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something something "milk run" Good thing we did away with carding https://globalnews.ca/news/5390507/uottawa-student-asked-for-id-detained-on-campus/ quote:The University of Ottawa’s Human Rights Office is investigating after a black student was allegedly asked to present identification and detained while walking through campus on Wednesday. My admittedly hasty reading of the TPA doesn't say anything about a duty to identify. If you're trespassing and not otherwise doing anything wrong (and it's not clear from the article that this man was doing either), all a security guard can do is make you leave. Failing to identify yourself isn't "a prohibited activity"...? 
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Someone explain this one to me. I'd always want to know if the person I am sleeping with has HIV, even if its being treated properly. There is a reason terms like D&D free and safe sex only are important terms in the gay community. https://www.cp24.com/news/liberals-hope-to-deal-with-hiv-non-disclosure-issue-if-re-elected-lametti-1.4466978
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On one side you have the people who would not consent to sex with someone who had HIV, because they fear getting the virus and dying of AIDS. If they knew the person could transmit the virus to them, they would not consent to sex, so it follows that hiding your own HIV+ status during the consent discussion adds up to a form of sexual assault. On the other side you have the current medical understanding of HIV infection, which says that someone receiving drug therapy whose viral load is sufficiently low shouldn't reasonably expect to be able to transmit the virus, even in what would otherwise be a high-risk sex act like receptive anal sex. Where there's no reason to believe you present that risk to your partner, there's no duty to inform your partner as part of the consent talk. It also creeps up on the difference between honestly not knowing you had it, and reasonably believing you can't transmit it. The fact that present-day HIV/AIDS treatments are at a state where you have a pretty good chance of dying with HIV instead of from it is a spectator argument here; I don't think that's relevant.
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PittTheElder posted:Seriously, I would love to get some general strike action going on here. gently caress being a lovely petrostate. bad idea. 1. Why would you punish Edmonton? We voted against Kenny. 2. there has been an insane amount of urban construction for about 5 years now which has essentially made the downtown core unusable. We wouldn't notice. If you are going to do something like that, do it in Red Deer, Drumheller (hell give it a dinosaur theme), Fort MacMurray, and heck even Vegreville. Heck, include Banff and Jasper and hit them where it hurts, the tourism dollar.
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TIL that Global TV is owned by Corus entertainment which is controlled by an 85 year old guy named JR Shaw who also sits on the Suncor Board of directors. God I hate our media so much.
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Cool guy, changed his legal first name to "JR".
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Unelected, partisan official warns of partisan bias in electoral watchdog.  https://twitter.com/LindaFrum/status/1139314416112087043
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gently caress linda frum and that entire family of horrible people
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It's frustrating that Conservatives are pushing this idea that Elections Canada is somehow lapdogs of the Trudeau regime. Poilievre is pushing the same loving idiotic bullshit. It's incredibly irresponsible. They're riling up a segment of the population to believe the election results, such as they are, are false or manipulated in some way. The responses not just to Frum's tweet but the tweet of the reporter who wrote the article she quoted are full of dumbshit conspiracies about George Soros owning the voting machines or other God damned garbage. Abolish the Senate.
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I for one welcome these latest Conservative moves to delitigmize our bourgeois fake democracy.
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Leofish posted:It's frustrating that Conservatives are pushing this idea that Elections Canada is somehow lapdogs of the Trudeau regime. conservative hacks have been all over elections canada since they threw ol dean del mastro behind bars for being a loving criminal thats literally all it is. theyre mad their buddy got thrown in jail for breaking the law
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flakeloaf posted:On one side you have the people who would not consent to sex with someone who had HIV, because they fear getting the virus and dying of AIDS. If they knew the person could transmit the virus to them, they would not consent to sex, so it follows that hiding your own HIV+ status during the consent discussion adds up to a form of sexual assault. I've never been clear on some nuances of this though. Like does disclosure extend to if a partner directly asks? I get not wanting to have to introduce yourself to every potential partner as "Hi, I'm Bob Johnson and I have HIV" to avoid an assault charge, but does that also means if someone's partner asked point blank "Hey, before we sleep together I need to know that you don't have any STDs including HIV", and that person says no even though they do have it, they just have a low viral load and are on anti-retroviral therapy, then would they still be not required to say so? Non-withstanding that it'd be a pretty lovely thing to lie about anything asked point blank just to get laid. Moreover if that person *does* manage to transmit it accidentally down the line, through a mismanagement of medication or something, then could their partner still bring charges even if they believed they could expect to not be a transmission risk?
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:I've never been clear on some nuances of this though. Like does disclosure extend to if a partner directly asks? I get not wanting to have to introduce yourself to every potential partner as "Hi, I'm Bob Johnson and I have HIV" to avoid an assault charge, but does that also means if someone's partner asked point blank "Hey, before we sleep together I need to know that you don't have any STDs including HIV", and that person says no even though they do have it, they just have a low viral load and are on anti-retroviral therapy, then would they still be not required to say so? Non-withstanding that it'd be a pretty lovely thing to lie about anything asked point blank just to get laid. I also think there are problems with the idea that hiding information from a sexual partner can invalidate consent, even though there's a clear logic to that position. If you find out your partner was sleeping around behind your back then you could fairly argue that you never would have slept with them if you had known, but most people would not agree that this made you a sexual assault survivor. Then again, suppose you found out that your partner was engaging in extremely risky sex and then also having unprotected sex with you. Is their reckless and deceptive behaviour a criminal offense, since that risk taking presumably invalidates your consent?
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Leofish posted:It's frustrating that Conservatives are pushing this idea that Elections Canada is somehow lapdogs of the Trudeau regime. Sadly this is a thing going on everywhere. Conservatives the world over are attempting to undermine the voting systems of their countries.
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Sometimes the voting systems of other countries too!
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