Darkman Fanpage posted:

this false flag poo poo funny to me. everyone so easily forgets that mbs ordered the murder of a prominent dissident journalist in a saudi consulate. you think he's above ordering attacks on foreign shipping in an attempt to give the us a reason to attack iran?

i say swears online posted:

christ I forgot he was still crown prince

Over Easy posted:

If Crowned Prince Mohammad bin Salman doesn't ultimately bring down the United States, Crowned Prince Mortgage Backed Securities will

Dreylad posted:

i thought bm was opening up shop to cover the yemen conflict

R. Guyovich posted:

Dreylad posted:

i thought bm was opening up shop to cover the yemen conflict

Raskolnikov38 posted:

how do you look at this farce and not come to the conclusion its some hairbrained scheme cooked up by trump and MBS

Willie Tomg posted:

mostly to stay busy in between flogging imperialistic narratives with 120p video "proof"

Brown Moses posted:

Seeing you all appear to think my opinion on this incident is so important you can go read it in the New York Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/opinion/iran-tanker-attacks.html

Brown Moses posted:

Seeing you all appear to think my opinion on this incident is so important you can go read it in the New York Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/opinion/iran-tanker-attacks.html

Willie Tomg posted:

absolutely bizarre this fascination some posters have with a moderator who leveraged their position into a thinktank-supported sinecure spoonfeeding ideological slop to the Someone Must Do Something warmonger caucus so other peoples' kids can die in the latest incarnation of the great game. it must be a trial having chained yourself to a dying empire being torn apart by its own incongruity, but you buy the court eunuch's ticket you take the court eunuch's ride. perhaps if wisconsin was geocached on open source media or whateverthefuck your expertise could have helped think tanks help the democrats "make the case" more effectively than this. your greatest career aspirations are as the middle management ideas guy in the marketing department of brushfire wars of opportunity, you trifling piece of poo poo.

Willie Tomg posted:

absolutely bizarre this fascination some posters have with a moderator who leveraged their position into a thinktank-supported sinecure spoonfeeding ideological slop to the Someone Must Do Something warmonger caucus so other peoples' kids can die in the latest incarnation of the great game. it must be a trial having chained yourself to a dying empire being torn apart by its own incongruity, but you buy the court eunuch's ticket you take the court eunuch's ride. perhaps if wisconsin was geocached on open source media or whateverthefuck your expertise could have helped think tanks help the democrats "make the case" more effectively than this. your greatest career aspirations are as the middle management ideas guy in the marketing department of brushfire wars of opportunity, you trifling piece of poo poo.

Dreylad posted:

i thought bm was opening up shop to cover the yemen conflict

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Actually, I haven't seen anything that convinces me the Iranians are there at all.

The linked article references Ashoura-class and Zolfaqar-class speedboats. There's no mention of a Gashti-class or model. The only image resembling the boat pictured is linked to a dead video stream. Perhaps Gashti is a sub-type of Ashoura? We have no idea.

Either way, both patrol boats aren't exactly maritime archetypes. They're pretty generic speedboat designs adapted in specifically Iranian ways. If you can manufacture any fiberglass powerboat, you can probably knock together something that looks like the boat in the picture.

Assuming all the Iranian speedboats are even accounted for. I don't see any VIN markings on the allegedly Iranian vessel either. The US equivalent: Are we talking about the USS Cole or the USS McCain? That should be a pretty easy question to answer. Especially when you have image enough to spot a supposed limpet mine.

That's assuming the images are real at all. The special effects crew from "Enemy of the State" put together better work back in 1998.

Nope. Not buying it. I'm just as convinced US or Saudi impostors were trying to remove a mine they knew would reveal their espionage. There's absolutely no reason right now to believe one account anymore than the other. Actually, based on recent events, you can discount US and Saudi credibility quite substantially.

Willie Tomg posted:

absolutely bizarre this fascination some posters have with a moderator who leveraged their position into a thinktank-supported sinecure spoonfeeding ideological slop to the Someone Must Do Something warmonger caucus so other peoples' kids can die in the latest incarnation of the great game. it must be a trial having chained yourself to a dying empire being torn apart by its own incongruity, but you buy the court eunuch's ticket you take the court eunuch's ride. perhaps if wisconsin was geocached on open source media or whateverthefuck your expertise could have helped think tanks help the democrats "make the case" more effectively than this. your greatest career aspirations are as the middle management ideas guy in the marketing department of brushfire wars of opportunity, you trifling piece of poo poo.

R. Guyovich posted:

still shaking my head at that post though. you pompous prick. after vietnam, iraq, libya, both venezuela coups, korea, the list goes on, endless wars and bloodshed given the big thumbs up in the editorial pages, what kind of brain disease do you have to have to flaunt a byline in the new york loving times. you should be ashamed of yourself for publishing in that rag and instead you puff up your chest and waddle in here like a prize pig, expecting us to kiss your feet like the cretins in d&d. gently caress off forever you sanctimonious little poo poo.

R. Guyovich posted:

still shaking my head at that post though. you pompous prick. after vietnam, iraq, libya, both venezuela coups, korea, the list goes on, endless wars and bloodshed given the big thumbs up in the editorial pages, what kind of brain disease do you have to have to flaunt a byline in the new york loving times. you should be ashamed of yourself for publishing in that rag and instead you puff up your chest and waddle in here like a prize pig, expecting us to kiss your feet like the cretins in d&d. gently caress off forever you sanctimonious little poo poo.

R. Guyovich posted:

still shaking my head at that post though. you pompous prick. after vietnam, iraq, libya, both venezuela coups, korea, the list goes on, endless wars and bloodshed given the big thumbs up in the editorial pages, what kind of brain disease do you have to have to flaunt a byline in the new york loving times. you should be ashamed of yourself for publishing in that rag and instead you puff up your chest and waddle in here like a prize pig, expecting us to kiss your feet like the cretins in d&d. gently caress off forever you sanctimonious little poo poo.

R. Guyovich posted:

still shaking my head at that post though. you pompous prick. after vietnam, iraq, libya, both venezuela coups, korea, the list goes on, endless wars and bloodshed given the big thumbs up in the editorial pages, what kind of brain disease do you have to have to flaunt a byline in the new york loving times. you should be ashamed of yourself for publishing in that rag and instead you puff up your chest and waddle in here like a prize pig, expecting us to kiss your feet like the cretins in d&d. gently caress off forever you sanctimonious little poo poo.