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CannonFodder posted:Does NASA losing a tool bag during a spacewalk count as an OSHA violation? No, that's accounting's problem. FINDING a tool bag during a spacewalk, that's OSHA right there.
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evobatman posted:Considering the cost of getting stuff into space, that's probably a few hundred thousands of dollars in wrenches floating away. It was $100,000.
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CannonFodder posted:Does NASA losing a tool bag during a spacewalk count as an OSHA violation? No. It does not.
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CannonFodder posted:Does NASA losing a tool bag during a spacewalk count as an OSHA violation?
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Serephina posted:How the hell is nobody commenting on how they bump and grind the bike along its bodywork, damaging literally every factory-new bike in the unloading? They are Chinese scooters, this did not effect the number of weeks they'll be 100% operational.
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So... tired... Think I'll just have a lie-down on this car right here.
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Jet Jaguar posted:So... tired... Think I'll just have a lie-down on this car right here. A cat nap, if you will
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Bad Munki posted:A cat nap, if you will I thought cats land on their feet.
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Bad Munki posted:A cat nap, if you will
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-48648769quote:Seven people have died whilst cleaning a hotel sewer in western India, according to local police. quote:the village of Fartikui quote:Fartikui
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toplitzin posted:I thought cats land on their feet.
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I used to have a cat that would lay on top of my car, too.
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Dagen H posted:Orbital Space & Homosphere Administration Sign me the gently caress up 
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Were they rationing space bars in 2009 or something?
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Cojawfee posted:Were they rationing space bars in 2009 or something? The cost of shipping anything into space is ridiculously inflated due to the cost of fuel and other expenses, including developing tools that can be used in microgravity.
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 Something about the plate being mounted on the cargo suggests this is a regular occurance.
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chitoryu12 posted:The cost of shipping anything into space is ridiculously inflated due to the cost of fuel and other expenses, including developing tools that can be used in microgravity. I have to assume that article was written on Earth though.
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chitoryu12 posted:The cost of shipping anything into space is ridiculously inflated due to the cost of fuel and other expenses, including developing tools that can be used in microgravity. For what it's worth, fuel is by far the cheapest part of spaceflight. Most liquid rocket fuel is either liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, or refined kerosene (RP-1) and liquid oxygen. Propellants for in-space use tend to be mostly hydrazine or various derivatives, which aside from being fairly toxic aren't that expensive.
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Luneshot posted:For what it's worth, fuel is by far the cheapest part of spaceflight. Most liquid rocket fuel is either liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, or refined kerosene (RP-1) and liquid oxygen. Propellants for in-space use tend to be mostly hydrazine or various derivatives, which aside from being fairly toxic aren't that expensive. This is true, but it takes a little over 9 times an object's weight in fuel to get it into orbit, and in extremely favorable conditions, 11 times the weight to get to the moon. The problem isn't cost, it's quantity.
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CannonFodder posted:Does NASA losing a tool bag during a spacewalk count as an OSHA violation? Why was that not tethered?
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Plastik posted:This is true, but it takes a little over 9 times an object's weight in fuel to get it into orbit, and in extremely favorable conditions, 11 times the weight to get to the moon. Even in quantity, it's still the cheapest part of spaceflight.
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Plastik posted:This is true, but it takes a little over 9 times an object's weight in fuel to get it into orbit, and in extremely favorable conditions, 11 times the weight to get to the moon. pfft so you're saying a 1-pound wrench takes only 1.5 gallons of fuel to get into space? i could afford that with pocket change! something doesn't add up here
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It's not just the fuel, it's the cost of the rocket too. They were single use until very recently.
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blow up the earth, everything is in space for free.
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Somewhere Fred Dibnah is shaking his head sadly.
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Confined spaces are dangerous. One person is incapacitated, someone goes to help them, is incapacitated, 20 GOTO 10
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GotLag posted:Confined spaces are dangerous. One person is incapacitated, someone goes to help them, is incapacitated, 20 GOTO 10 Yeah, in the oilfield if you work in tanks you need specific fined space training. Everybody gets H2S training for the same reason. It kills your sense of smell and can knock you the gently caress down in a hurry. If you're on a sour site(meaning H2S could be present) and you see someone go down, you yell "man down" and run the gently caress away because if you run toward him there are now 2 men down. Everybody in the oilfield has to be clean shaven, because everyone at some point could be required to put on a respirator and go drag someone away from the gas. Everyone on a sour site has a personal monitor to detect gasses so it shouldn't happen, but like i said, H2S can gently caress you up in a hurry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_sulfide#Toxicity quote:0.00047 ppm or 0.47 ppb is the odor threshold, the point at which 50% of a human panel can detect the presence of an odor without being able to identify it.[43] It's also extremely flammable, basically eats iron. Is heavier than air so it pools in low areas, and disolves in water like C02 in a soda so stepping in a mud puddle on a sour location with a slow leak could release enough to knock you flat on your rear end. H2S ain't nothin to gently caress with.
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Synthbuttrange posted:blow up the earth, everything is in space for free. I’m in space right now. I’m just not in outer space.
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Here's another example: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-17/poisonous-gas-detected-in-water-tank-where-three-bodies-found/8279576 A man was cleaning out a below-ground tank, using a petrol generator placed just outside the entrance. He was overcome, his brother entered to rescue him, was also overcome. His wife then tried to rescue both of the men, and in turn also lost consciousness. A neighbour heard the woman's cries and called emergency services, by the time they arrived all three were dead.
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Powershift posted:Yeah, in the oilfield if you work in tanks you need specific fined space training. I have to ask, if you're working in a location where that could be a danger, why wouldn't everyone just slap on the respirator to start with and not take it off until the work was done? I mean, there's probably a reason why, but that would seem like the safest solution.
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I'm more of a sour diesel guy myself
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PurpleXVI posted:I have to ask, if you're working in a location where that could be a danger, why wouldn't everyone just slap on the respirator to start with and not take it off until the work was done? I mean, there's probably a reason why, but that would seem like the safest solution. 
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PurpleXVI posted:I have to ask, if you're working in a location where that could be a danger, why wouldn't everyone just slap on the respirator to start with and not take it off until the work was done? I mean, there's probably a reason why, but that would seem like the safest solution. Have you ever worn a respirator or gas mask? It's like having your own personal sauna wrapped around your face and every breath you take you have to suck through the filter. Every job you do while wearing one is harder and takes longer.
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PurpleXVI posted:I have to ask, if you're working in a location where that could be a danger, why wouldn't everyone just slap on the respirator to start with and not take it off until the work was done? I mean, there's probably a reason why, but that would seem like the safest solution. On locations with constant levels over 10ppm they do, Everybody is tethered to a breathing air trailer, with a small tank on their hip with enough air to get them the gently caress out if the air supply stops.  It's incredibly expensive and a huge pain in the rear end for everyone involved. The lines get caught on everything, you have to leave every structure the way you came in. Most locations will just require no solo work, 4 head gas monitor on every person, and SCBAs at the muster points. spankmeister posted:I'm more of a sour diesel guy myself Brain damage is brain damage, i guess 
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Powershift posted:If you're on a sour site(meaning H2S could be present) and you see someone go down, you yell "man down" and run the gently caress away because if you run toward him there are now 2 men down I used to work on a site with huge, industrial ammonia-based cooling systems. The training was 'this is safe, you don't need to do anything different from the usual industrial safety. Just be aware that in the extremely unlikely event of a major leak, a cloud of ammonia the size of the entire site will be released. The wind direction that day will determine which of the surrounding villages/towns will have to be evacuated. So, always be aware what direction the wind is blowing so you know what direction to run and you'll be okay'
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PurpleXVI posted:I have to ask, if you're working in a location where that could be a danger, why wouldn't everyone just slap on the respirator to start with and not take it off until the work was done? I mean, there's probably a reason why, but that would seem like the safest solution.
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But as an added bonus, you get a wicked deep Barry White voice when you inhale it, so your final moments are at least kinda funny.
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evil_bunnY posted:Because you need to either know what gas to expect (so you select an appropriate cartridge for your facepiece) or use an air supply. Both of these are logistically intensive so people skimp and die. All of the mine and oil sites I've been to had a statement somewhere in the safety induction to the effect of "If you need a cartridge, we'll supply it. If you bring ANY cartridge on-site, you will be fired instantly, even if it's the correct cartridge for your particular job." The risk of having any cartridges around that were not specifically for the job and permit of that specific day and job and people was too great. You could also get insta-fired for seeing a cartridge and not immediately reporting it to your supervisor. A can of beer would get you in trouble, but not instantly fired (unless it was wedging down the throttle on a forklift or something), because nobody is going to screw the wrong brand of beer onto their mask and then die choking on their own bloody vomit.
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