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Nuns with Guns posted:TG is hidden behind the paywall, but he used to post screenshots and links to these threads, sometimes within a couple hours of comments about him being posted. A significant source on this was when SA caught him running a Twitter puppet (stolen photo and existed only to support Zak) that he deleted minutes after only being identified here. That was right after Mandy came forward and he was using his typical playbook, assuming he'd be able to rally his people against this victim like he had all his others.
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potatocubed posted:If you really want to get angry, check out his contribution to the definition of 'gay'. I'll be honest, while I expected him to be homophobic I didn't expect him to be that virulently homophobic. The man is to the right of Mike loving Pence on LGBTQ issues which takes some effort.
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neaden posted:I'll be honest, while I expected him to be homophobic I didn't expect him to be that virulently homophobic. The man is to the right of Mike loving Pence on LGBTQ issues which takes some effort. I'm not really sure why this stuff is presumed to be from Pundit? Much like Zak, he puts some stock in his being the Real True Diversity Man unlike the wicked SJWs, so he usually avoids simpler "gays are bad" language even if he dances around turns of phrase that amount to the same thing. Then again, there's that time during one of the "DTRPG is going to censor conservatives based on SJW whims" things where he just outright engaged in overt transphobic language as a throwaway insult to some hypothetical DTRPG employee, in public view with his preferred moniker attached. 
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Nuns with Guns posted:Speaking of Pundit, was there ever confirmation whether or not not new print runs of the 5e book have permanately removed all consultant credit, including his? If so, where are those juicy emails he threatened to dropped to ruin Mearls? Nope. He and noted pants-shitter Zak S. are both still listed. 
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Arivia posted:SWORD DREAM It's difficult to describe how well this name resonates with me. It's real good. I wish I could get in on that game jam, but I'm gonna get real busy around then.
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I don't think it was ever said Pundit would be removed in the first place, except by Pundit for his own scaremongering purposes. He just thought the writing might be on the wall for him, after it took credible accusations of rape to get a token gesture out of WotC, so he preemptively threatened Mearls.
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That Old Tree posted:I don't think it was ever said Pundit would be removed in the first place, except by Pundit for his own scaremongering purposes. He just thought the writing might be on the wall for him, after it took credible accusations of rape to get a token gesture out of WotC, so he preemptively threatened Mearls. WotC said in a press release that they'd remove Zak from future physical and digital versions of the PHB: https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/20/18232181/dungeons-dragons-zak-smith-sabbath-abuse-accusations-players-handbook posted:“Zak Smith, along with many others, was engaged by Wizards to provide feedback on D&D Next, the playtest which evolved into D&D fifth edition,” Wizards said. “We have not contracted with him since, and regret our choice to do so in 2014. Because of that, we are removing Zak’s credit from future physical printings and digital versions of the Player’s Handbook.” It looked like their solution temporarily(?) was to delete the block of credits that had all the consultants' thank-yous in it in the PDFs. Nobody said at the time if there would be a more specific edit of Zak's name out later, or if that was the long-term answer. Johnnie5 posted:Nope. He and noted pants-shitter Zak S. are both still listed. Weird, were they both re-added then? Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jun 15, 2019 |
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Rand Brittain posted:Wait, there are PDFs? What? It's a shame* about Zak's patreon, given his Chick-fil-a and post-pants-making GBS threads budgetary woes. Perhaps he could consider a long course of personal reflection.
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moths posted:A significant source on this was when SA caught him running a Twitter puppet (stolen photo and existed only to support Zak) that he deleted minutes after only being identified here. Ahah yeah I remember that. The fake twitter account wasn't exactly being supportive, but it was being like, "I'm mad and I think maybe Zak is bad and I'm going to ask him questions and let him calmly explain things to dumb angry me." Which Zak was proceeding to do. Seems like it had to be either Zak or someone here doing a false flag I guess. Also we should not rule out the possibility that Zak left his pants unattended for awhile at GenCon 2017, when a friend of his came over, put them on, and shat them unbeknownst. Zak returned and put them back on, leading to this rumor about him at the Chick-Fil-A wearing pants full of (presumably his) poo poo.
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Nuns with Guns posted:Actually, checking now, it looks like the paywall is down on TG right now, but I know I've seen it hidden before, too.
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I know the Origins awards have been poo poo for years, but seriously, wtf... https://twitter.com/wizkidsgames/status/1140064630208946177 Also Vampire 5th won best RPG, against ohh, wait, actually nothing stands out on that list, was there nothing else released last year that was any good?
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Nessus posted:Get with the times, grandpa! No but seriously are they actually selling PDFs (of 5e, at least) somewhere? Because that's news to me.
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i think theve been selling pdfs since the start of 5e
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Jun 16, 2019 17:04
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The PDF that the consultant credits were removed from was the free basic rules thing that was always available in PDF.
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5e not being available in pdf is the dumbest thing.
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The things sold as hardcover books do not have legally-available PDFs though.
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Rand Brittain posted:Wait, there are PDFs? What? There are PDFs of the Basic Rules, and there always have been since the game was released. There are no official releases of the PDFs of the full books, such as the PHB / DMG / MM.
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5e is a loving mess. Even at Pride yesterday I ended up telling people about how trash it is, it's really fascinating. (Note: this was a pre-existing group of gamer friends, I didn't just kramer in and start yelling about Zak making GBS threads his pants.)
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PST posted:Also Vampire 5th won best RPG, against ohh, wait, actually nothing stands out on that list, was there nothing else released last year that was any good? I'm pretty sure Wrath and Glory, Witcher, Conan, WHFRP4, Runequest, and Kult were all released or re-released in 2018.
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moths posted:I'm pretty sure Wrath and Glory, Witcher, Conan, WHFRP4, Runequest, and Kult were all released or re-released in 2018. None of those were very good though.
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On the Indie side, Spire, Scum and Villainy, The King is Dead, Dialect, and my own Legacy 2e were released in 2018, and I’d wager at least one of those is a better game than V5. Possibly, all of them. But that’s the thing with these big awards - it’s remarkable when a game that’s not from a huge company or a storied IP even charts, let alone wins.
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neaden posted:None of those were very good though. Maybe, but relative to Vampire 5th edition?
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All awards are pointless
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gradenko_2000 posted:There are PDFs of the Basic Rules, and there always have been since the game was released.
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Andrast posted:All awards are pointless Yet gaming awards consistently manage to have negative points.
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moths posted:Yet gaming awards consistently manage to have negative points. The Origins Awards are voted on by the attendees, and Origins isn't as populous/hardcore as Gencon so ymmv. On the other hand, Vlaada got inducted into their Hall of Fame so
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I literally and sincerely think it would be a good thing if the Something Awful TG community had its own games award.
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Rand Brittain posted:I literally and sincerely think it would be a good thing if the Something Awful TG community had its own games award. Nobody outside of SA really gives that much of a poo poo about SA, so an award that only people using this forum cared about would be pretty valueless. As pointless as folks here think things like the ENnies or Origin awards may be, they are nonetheless considered a mark of prestige that designers can put on their books and ad copy and help drive sales which is why people want them. I doubt the same would really be true of a Something Awful Traditional Games award.
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I think that's it - SA isn't that known for RPG stuff, so who cares. Though I have considered the idea of "The Awfuls" last time the conversation went around to how poo poo the Ennies are.
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I think for that kind of thing your goal needs to not be "become more popular and influential than the Ennies," but instead to be "be a better example of how awards should work than the other awards people have actually heard of." I feel like putting together a detailed, insightful, and funny summary of the games that came out in a given year, and an examination of which ones contributed something new to the hobby, would be fun to read and worth doing for its own sake.
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Honestly, people outside of SA not caring about SA isn't a reason not to do this. You don't need to replicate the ENnies or whatever, just hold a vote once a year. The anime forum does this for best show of the year and it works well, and it's cool to see what little-known stuff people enjoyed. The biggest obstacle would be getting an exhaustive list of games that came out in a given year.
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an awful, meandering podcast run by a guy known primarily for firing his co-host, replacing him with his wife, and then having his wife divorce him because he cheated on her with a board game illustrator, has enough clout that board game companies slap his goty awards and runner up awards on their games, and people genuinely discuss the merits of those awards and where they should go. i am sure that the SA rpg awards could easily become at least as influential.
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I feel like an SA TG award would only ever be extremely up its own rear end. "A bunch of people from a gaming forum most people haven't heard of gave each other
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Better to do have a good award people don't notice or take seriously than just bitch endless and do nothing. RPG awards are always disappointing, SA could definitely do better.
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8one6 posted:I feel like an SA TG award would only ever be extremely up its own rear end. "A bunch of people from a gaming forum most people haven't heard of gave each other Could be fun if we owned it, though. "And the award for the best forums-based RPG awards goes to... the Goonies! Fellows I did not see this coming."
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8one6 posted:I feel like an SA TG award would only ever be extremely up its own rear end. "A bunch of people from a gaming forum most people haven't heard of gave each other I don't think SA TG awards would be any worse than most other awards. There would be a lot less rapist shitlords who poo poo their pants winning awards and I think that's admirable.
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