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Nostalgia4Butts posted:Ducks/Warren is my dream ticket at this point I’d kill for this ticket. But she’s clearly got more important things like her child this go around but 2024 perhaps.
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Fister Roboto posted:People who think that everything was perfectly fine in America on Nov 5 2016. In my experience it's pretty much whatever is left of the middle class (or that think they're middle class) who also believe in progressive social policy.
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Buttigeig is my #1 pick followed by Biden then Warren then Sanders. I’d be thrilled if any of them got the nomination. They’re separated by the thinnest margins in my mind.
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Jun 16, 2019 23:27
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bootybutt is doing pretty good tbh. hes on the same stage as biden and hes making some waves. he should well at the debate
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bird food bathtub posted:I'm genuinely surprised none of the many organizations trying to goad the US into over-reacting have bombed a Trump hotel somewhere. I can't see anything making the pissbaby president more angry than seeing pictures on the television of his gold plated ego-reinforcers damaged and his knowledge that the rest of the world is seeing it too. Anyone who has been within a couple degrees of a cell phone call or attended a wedding of someone who's interested in doing anything like that has probably been droned over the last ~18 years. At best there might be an arrest of someone who expressed interest in doing that to his law enforcement contact. CRUSTY MINGE posted:Pretty much in that boat. Personally, I'm game for Warren. I'd take Bernie over Biden, too. Trouble is, I don't want another dinosaur in office. Warren is pretty policy laden and isn't freeballing it like mayor pete or beto, isn't a cop like Kamala, but she doesn't have the charisma to charm idiots long enough to digest her policies. A lot of the opposition to Warren is definitely driven by misogyny. LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Buttigeig is my #1 pick followed by Biden then Warren then Sanders. This seems like a nonsense statement? Buttigeig is a mainstream liberal more or less, Warren and Sanders are the only Democratic candidates that have any policy suggestions to the left of the mainstream. There are a lot of candidates in between, ideologically speaking. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jun 16, 2019 |
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Jun 16, 2019 23:31
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Buttigeig is my #1 pick followed by Biden then Warren then Sanders. Shim....dumb?
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Jun 16, 2019 23:54
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Viva Miriya posted:Shim....dumb? Hey dude, feel free to suck my dick from the back. There’s a ton of people who like those candidates, and liking them doesn’t make them dumb.
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Jun 17, 2019 01:30
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Milo and POTUS posted:I didn't say I'd protest vote though? No, you're talking about doing the opposite, which more people should have done in 2016 and will most likely be the far better course in November 2020, too.
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Jun 17, 2019 01:30
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Hey dude, feel free to suck my dick from the back. There’s a ton of people who like those candidates, and liking them doesn’t make them dumb. It really does.
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Jun 17, 2019 01:35
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Hey dude, feel free to suck my dick from the back. There’s a ton of people who like those candidates, and liking them doesn’t make them dumb. Liking Biden or Bootygig absolutely makes someone dumb *and* wrong, hth
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Jun 17, 2019 01:41
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I like Warren because the Buttigieg profile from a few months ago said "hate should be pure and burn white hot" and Warren's does far more than the rest of them
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Jun 17, 2019 01:51
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Bootygig doesn't have any real policy developed. He's as firm as week old mashed potatoes and is playing his cards loose.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:30
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Nice to see we're still shouting down and name-calling people who dare post something different.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:36
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Godholio posted:Nice to see we're still shouting down and name-calling people who dare post something different. Nuance and anti-dogpile-mentality posting? Gtfo you literal Hitler.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:42
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Godholio posted:Nice to see we're still shouting down and name-calling people who dare post something different. Nobody is doing that.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:47
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FWIW, had drinks with a friend who does a lot of polling and poo poo for the Dems this evening. Warren is apparently surging, like a lot. Sanders is doing well too, but it seems like it's a between Warren and Sanders in a lot of places they've polled, with Warren edging out Sanders when second choice factors come into play. Biden is quickly becoming the "safety choice", which is heartening to hear. He said they expect the debates to quickly narrow down the candidates.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:58
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Godholio posted:Nice to see we're still shouting down and name-calling people who dare post something different. ffs grow a thicker skin
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Jun 17, 2019 03:01
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Godholio posted:Nice to see we're still shouting down and name-calling people who dare post something different.
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Jun 17, 2019 03:03
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Woof Blitzer posted:Nobody is doing that. Uh... Viva Miriya posted:Shim....dumb? Calling him dumb. LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Hey dude, feel free to suck my dick from the back. There’s a ton of people who like those candidates, and liking them doesn’t make them dumb. Woof Blitzer posted:It really does. Calling him dumb. Professor Bling posted:Liking Biden or Bootygig absolutely makes someone dumb *and* wrong, hth Calling him dumb *and* wrong, hth Fister Roboto posted:ffs grow a thicker skin Yeah, me wanting people to stop being dicks to each other makes me a real pussy.
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Jun 17, 2019 03:07
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Creepy McHandsy is a terrible pause button on any attempts at progress in a country racing the clock because one party is rapidly working itself up to full fascist, "Democrats want to invade the country with foreigners and take over, they are now illegal in the interests of national security." Now is not the time for reaching across the aisle with folksy charm and saying, "C'mon guys those are my friends, I know they don't really mean to have child concentration camps on the border. Lets just be reasonable and compromise with them. We'll only take away a few civil liberties from gays/transsexuals/minorities/women and then they'll totally snap out of this little thing they've got going on and work with us to really fix some problems! Ya know, really solid stuff like means-tested market-based health care access and responsible tax cuts." Also the planet is going to burn itself to a crisp so that should maybe be taken care of with a quickness, not on the time table of fossil fuel industry lobbyists.
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Well, yeah. I don't like the guy. He's still better than what we got.
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Godholio posted:Uh... If it bothers you so much, then make a report. But before you do consider that if you can't tolerate people saying you are wrong or having a different opinion maybe you should not post here. To the casual observer your posts really come off as super pathetic and whiny.
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bird food bathtub posted:Creepy McHandsy is a terrible pause button on any attempts at progress in a country racing the clock because one party is rapidly working itself up to full fascist, "Democrats want to invade the country with foreigners and take over, they are now illegal in the interests of national security." Now is not the time for reaching across the aisle with folksy charm and saying, "C'mon guys those are my friends, I know they don't really mean to have child concentration camps on the border. Lets just be reasonable and compromise with them. We'll only take away a few civil liberties from gays/transsexuals/minorities/women and then they'll totally snap out of this little thing they've got going on and work with us to really fix some problems! Ya know, really solid stuff like means-tested market-based health care access and responsible tax cuts." biden sucks rear end and is basically a republican but ol' Ginsberg was too loving stupid to retire when she had the chance and is 100% going to die before 2024 if Trump gets a second term because we live in hell world, and trump getting 3 loving supreme court picks would gently caress us for the next 40 years And thats just a supreme court judge thats expected to die they're all old as poo poo, trump getting a second term and a total of 4 supreme court picks isn't a non zero chance edit: that being said if I had to vote for biden it would have to be with some rite in the rain pen because i'm gonna reflex throw up on the ballot PookBear fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Jun 17, 2019 |
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If Beto keeps at the near zero level, he's done an incredible job going from nationally famous Dem every Dem loved and wanted the best for, to nobody, in absolutely record time. Remember when he looked inevitable? Standing on tables, getting the cover of Esquire. Now he's neck and neck with the "who?" set of random white guy moderates.
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Best Friends posted:If Beto keeps at the near zero level, he's done an incredible job going from nationally famous Dem every Dem loved and wanted the best for, to nobody, in absolutely record time. Remember when he looked inevitable? Standing on tables, getting the cover of Esquire. Now he's neck and neck with the "who?" set of random white guy moderates. Beto was only good in comparison with ted cruz and trying to throw his hat in the ring against literally a who's who of the democratic party. A beto that won a senate seat in texas would be an easy win for president later on down the road because if you can swing texas its in the bag
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Woof Blitzer posted:If it bothers you so much, then make a report. But before you do consider that if you can't tolerate people saying you are wrong or having a different opinion maybe you should not post here. To the casual observer your posts really come off as super pathetic and whiny. I disagree with ghole on some things but not this, also nice backseat modding
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I disagree with ghole on some things but not this, also nice backseat modding 
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Frankly I don't see any way of being less blunt about it. Having a fondness for yet another candidate that supports the same status quo that has been destroying the country for years and years is dumb, bad, however you want to phrase it. I have been attempting to regain some karma lost from being hired muscle most of my adult life. Now I do a lot volunteering for unions and community groups and I can tell you firsthand the stories of ordinary people being devastated by exactly the same politicians you support who are so called liberals or progressives. Regular people just like you need to say enough is enough.
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Godholio posted:Nice to see we're still shouting down and name-calling people who dare post something different. anyone who's presidential pick is Biden and then Sanders is loving retarded and has no idea what their policy positions are. Of course shim also likes to literally deepthroat Flynn so he isn't the most rational actor here
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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:Of course shim also likes to literally deepthroat Flynn so he isn't the most rational actor here thats p. much the opposite of what shim has said about flynn and it weirds me out that people keep thinking that
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It's because they don't care. Woof Blitzer posted:If it bothers you so much, then make a report. But before you do consider that if you can't tolerate people saying you are wrong or having a different opinion maybe you should not post here. To the casual observer your posts really come off as super pathetic and whiny. I can't help but notice that you're again going after the poster and not the content. What's weird is that you're using right wing facebook warrior tactics to try to shut people up rather than convince them of a better way.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:Biden beats trump in the Rust Belt. And the Midwest. I don't think we need Biden to beat Trump here; Trump won WI/MI by the slimmest of margins and WI/MN are historically progressive places (and still are in urban areas), and Bernie did very well in this area against Clinton. I think if we had a true left candidate they would do very well up here.
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Woof Blitzer posted:Frankly I don't see any way of being less blunt about it. Having a fondness for yet another candidate that supports the same status quo that has been destroying the country for years and years is dumb, bad, however you want to phrase it. If you're gonna be this "un-blunt" about it, then at least stick to it instead of denying it and saying the people pointing it are pathetic and whiny? I get that you feel strongly about it, but at least that way we wouldn't start yet another poo poo-spiral of shouting at each other in the CE thread.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:If you're gonna be this "un-blunt" about it, then at least stick to it instead of denying it and saying the people pointing it are pathetic and whiny? I get that you feel strongly about it, but at least that way we wouldn't start yet another poo poo-spiral of shouting at each other in the CE thread. I can't help but calling em like I see em. I am sorry for all the nonsense and let this be the end of it!
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If someone agrees with 75-90% of what they say, the way to get them past that last 10-25% is not to insult and belittle their intelligence, because that makes you look like a giant rear end in a top hat. like christ people this is basic human interaction, come on. Like, for instance: Shim, I liked Biden, but I've been growing a bit wary of him. If the country is to surmount the immense challenges it faces from within and without, it needs bold, strong leadership. And while Joe has many qualities that are personally admirable, and I'm sure that he's a great person to talk to and hang out with in person (Hell, I've shaken his hand), the fact remains that given his track record, I have serious doubts he has the fire, will, and sheer spite needed to truly tackle the issues that face us. I don't think he'd necessarily be a bad President, but I think he'd be a mediocre one, and I'm not sure the country can afford a mediocre President at this critical point in time. With Mayor Pete, I just have doubts about the substance behind him and the drive needed to tackle the goals ahead of us. If he was running for Governor or Senate I'd vote for him in a heartbeat, but for President... I dunno. Going from Pete and Biden, one of the reasons I like Warren is that I feel she has a fire behind her. She may have come to her current politics later in life, but since then she's done an immense amount of work to tackle the symptoms of capitalism run amock that have so badly damaged the American people and the people of the world. She has a deep understanding of a wide variety of issues, has wide ranging plans to address these issues, and seems truly concerned about the plight of the working person who's been ground down by the economic system in which we live. She's not perfect, but she has the combination of attitude, understanding, and fire that I feel could make her into a new FDR. Bernie's also pretty good, I just like Warren more, and feel Warren would be better placed to accomplish her objectives (Mostly because the Democratic establishment still sees her as one of their own, while there's still a whole lot of people in the party who think he's the reason they lost 2016, and I feel that resentment would follow him to the White House and could hurt his legislative efforts). If Warren drops he's definitely my runner-up.
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Woof Blitzer posted:I can't help but calling em like I see em. I am sorry for all the nonsense and let this be the end of it! Fair enough. On a not-quite-related note, and this is genuinely not meant as a dig at the thread, but where was the point when Diamond-Joe in his Camaro (?) stopped being a favorite in here? I'm asking, because the first time I recall the media reporting about his accusers this year, GiP was already solidly detached from him, but I can't remember that stretching back as far as 2016. I vividly remember people still being pretty fond of him when he was on Colbert, giving a pretty great interview, or when we reposted that clip of Obama awarding him the presidential medal of freedom, and that time (reposting the clip, not the medal) was fewer than two years ago, iirc? I also don't recall him really being on the radar media-wise - or, at all - on his status-quo politics until about 2 months or so before throwing his hat into the 2020 ring /edit: To rephrase, I guess I should say "I don't recall his status quo politics making that much of a splash" since back in the day, the non-right opposition to status-quo wasn't as pronounced as it is with the popular support it has now Duzzy Funlop fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jun 17, 2019 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Fair enough. I think when it came out that he was getting touchy feely with literally everyone
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Fair enough. I'd say it's because the SA forums as a whole tacked pretty hard left after the 2016 elections (Both due to moderates leaving and many others radicalizing), so while Biden was well liked during the Obama years, as time has passed Obama's presidency has fallen out of favor on these forums for not being left enough or aggressive enough, and Biden's appeals to moderation have fallen pretty flat here as a result. And ironically, the worse the Trump administration becomes, the worse the Obama administration and the Democratic establishment (Of which Biden is the most prominent figure after Hillary) looks—both for not being able to beat him in the first place, and for the Democratic party's inability to stop or condemn the worst crimes of Trump's administration in Congress and in the media (Either fairly or unfairly).
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Fair enough. I think when he decided not to run in 2016 the general feeling was that his best years were behind him, from memory this was before the touching stuff came out
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