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Farecoal posted:why does whismur have a butthole to poop with!!! idiot!!!! 
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Farecoal posted:why does whismur have a butthole It's an audio cable port.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:21
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Apple removed it, though. Such courage.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:22
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Saoshyant posted:Yup, that's gone. They have this new Dynamax thing that is just making one mon gigantic for a few turns(?). It's literally the base model amplified, so no new designs in that regard. 3 turns to be exact. And during those three turns, every move essentially becomes a Z-Move. So if you got tackle, or any normal type attacking move, it turns into Max Strike, a 130 move that lowers the opponent's speed tack. https://twitter.com/pokebeach_wpm/status/1138607400200445952
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Jun 17, 2019 02:27
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:3 turns to be exact. And during those three turns, every move essentially becomes a Z-Move. So if you got tackle, or any normal type attacking move, it turns into Max Strike, a 130 move that lowers the opponent's speed tack. looks like whether the move is special or physical is based off the original modified move, or at least it seems that way based on Max Strike being physical in one pic and special in the other
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Jun 17, 2019 02:45
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:3 turns to be exact. And during those three turns, every move essentially becomes a Z-Move. So if you got tackle, or any normal type attacking move, it turns into Max Strike, a 130 move that lowers the opponent's speed tack. Do these have fixed damage or are they based off the original moves' power like Z-moves?
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Jun 17, 2019 02:48
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Do we know if Dynamaxing boosts stats? Because I wouldn't be worried about losing Megas and not being able to use your favorite Pokemon anymore then.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:53
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RatHat posted:Do these have fixed damage or are they based off the original moves' power like Z-moves? I guess we're not sure yet https://www.pokebeach.com/2019/06/new-pokemon-yamper-electric-and-impidimp-dark-fairy-revealed Grokey had Uproar and Slam, which are 90 and 85 damage.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:53
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Dias posted:Do we know if Dynamaxing boosts stats? Because I wouldn't be worried about losing Megas and not being able to use your favorite Pokemon anymore then. Stat boosts weren't all that megas were, though. And even if it did make up for it the super limited turncount makes it really bad for pokemon that required their megas in order to be good
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Jun 17, 2019 02:58
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the most tedious response to the new developments are all the cool kids saying they don't understand why anyone even cares about the old mons
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Jun 17, 2019 03:17
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That's a poo poo response anyway since we don't know which Pokemon are in or out. I'm on team "no national Dex is fine" btw. Also Dynamax seems visually interesting but so mechanically boring. At least Z-moves had the "when's it gonna come out" threat to it and the potential to whiff if it got protected. A mega evo-ish boost and three Z-moves seems way more difficult to deal with. It's probably gonna be cool as hell in the anime though if they do more with it than "they Dynamax'd so I gotta Dynamax."
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Jun 17, 2019 03:36
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Farecoal posted:why does whismur have a butthole the same reason bonsley does
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Jun 17, 2019 03:38
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Millennials love buttholes
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Jun 17, 2019 03:39
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Saoshyant posted:Yup, that's gone. They have this new Dynamax thing that is just making one mon gigantic for a few turns(?). It's literally the base model amplified, so no new designs in that regard. The whole reasons megas were cool was because they breathed new life into pokemon. Dynamax can be used on every Pokemon so there's no incentive to use oddballs like Pinsir or Mawile now. They had great megas, but now they're back to being trash. Thanks Gamefreak  Dias posted:Do we know if Dynamaxing boosts stats? Because I wouldn't be worried about losing Megas and not being able to use your favorite Pokemon anymore then. You don't know much about megas if you think stats were all they were. Megas redistributed stats to make Pokemon more minmax and also gave them new abilities and typings. Pinsir became bug/flying, one of the worst types in existence, but got on an insane attack and speed boost paired with a bonkers ability. It made him into an amazing glass canon and I loved it since ever since I was little I wanted Pinsir to be good. Now he's trash again. Why dynamax Pinsir when another pokemon can get the same boost and use it better? Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Jun 17, 2019 |
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Jun 17, 2019 03:39
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loving lol at people having a “grief response” to a shrunken Pokédex
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Jun 17, 2019 03:44
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It's okay to care about things, especially when they've been a part of your life since you can remember.
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Jun 17, 2019 03:46
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Vegetable posted:loving lol at people having a “grief response” to a shrunken Pokédex Yeah gently caress caring about stuff
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Jun 17, 2019 03:47
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I’m going to miss Mega Ampharos. That hair could make a Wooloo jealous.
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Jun 17, 2019 03:47
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The entire loving franchise is based on the idea of people having an emotional reaction to Pokemon. The previous generation introduced a mechanic where you could clean up your Pokemon and give it candy after every battle "They're just lines of code in a videogame" OK, so that why you personally don't like Pokemon, but please learn literally anything about how humans respond to art or fiction before trying to generalize your reactions as correct
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Jun 17, 2019 03:51
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Internet Kraken posted:The whole reasons megas were cool was because they breathed new life into pokemon. Dynamax can be used on every Pokemon so there's no incentive to use oddballs like Pinsir or Mawile now. They had great megas, but now they're back to being trash. Saoshyant posted:Yup, that's gone. They have this new Dynamax thing that is just making one mon gigantic for a few turns(?). It's literally the base model amplified, so no new designs in that regard. According to the 4chan leak (which we have very little reason to doubt at this point), some Pokemon can do what's called Gigantamaxing, which gives it a different form entirely. We don't know if it'll give them ability or typing changes like some Megas, but I guess we'll find out in the next few months.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:00
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Internet Kraken posted:The whole reasons megas were cool was because they breathed new life into pokemon. Dynamax can be used on every Pokemon so there's no incentive to use oddballs like Pinsir or Mawile now. They had great megas, but now they're back to being trash. That's actually a solid point, I forgot about the typing and ability changes. I was more thinking you might still be able to use stuff off that three turn boost and the Max attacks, really, but I guess a lot of Pokemon just kinda need more than that to be usable - I haven't kept up with competitive since...gen 3 I guess?
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Jun 17, 2019 04:05
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Dias posted:Do we know if Dynamaxing boosts stats? Because I wouldn't be worried about losing Megas and not being able to use your favorite Pokemon anymore then. For the player in the E3 demo it seemed to be just 50% more HP with Z moves for 3 turns. But there’s also a “Dynamax level” in the stats screen so you can probably make it stronger.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:09
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Farecoal posted:why does whismur have a butthole For tootin'.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:09
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Vandar posted:According to the 4chan leak (which we have very little reason to doubt at this point), some Pokemon can do what's called Gigantamaxing, which gives it a different form entirely. We don't know if it'll give them ability or typing changes like some Megas, but I guess we'll find out in the next few months. Mind you I have no faith whatsoever in what I'm going to say next ( it's pure wishful thinking) but if G-maxing alters forms then maybe it works like an alternative to mega stones and they get to keep those forms it's just called something different now.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:14
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Flopsy posted:Mind you I have no faith whatsoever in what I'm going to say next ( it's pure wishful thinking) but if G-maxing alters forms then maybe it works like an alternative to mega stones and they get to keep those forms it's just called something different now. That's what I'm hoping happens, but I don't have much faith in Game Freak to do it.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:18
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Flopsy posted:Mind you I have no faith whatsoever in what I'm going to say next ( it's pure wishful thinking) but if G-maxing alters forms then maybe it works like an alternative to mega stones and they get to keep those forms it's just called something different now. That makes every defensive Mega form worthless then since you can only have it for 3 turns.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:18
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z moves were boring and dynamax is too except for the getting huge part
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Jun 17, 2019 04:19
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RatHat posted:For the player in the E3 demo it seemed to be just 50% more HP with Z moves for 3 turns. But there’s also a “Dynamax level” in the stats screen so you can probably make it stronger. I would love if different Dynamax levels impact how big the Pokemon got.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:20
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oddium posted:z moves were boring and dynamax is too except for the getting huge part Now that I'm thinking more about it Dynamaxing is basically just giving a Pokemon potentially three Z-Move charges. With the HP boost it might be good for setting up stuff with the Max status moves, but yeah, it's not all that exciting outside metagame considerations.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:29
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z moves are better than mega evos actually
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Both Z moves and megas are very good, but dynamax is not great and way more boring than both
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Jun 17, 2019 04:31
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for sure. Dynamaxing is Dexit but for actually good and fun battle mechanics. SwSh seems to be stripping the fun/unique things out of the franchise. still gonna buy it though, it's the primary reason I bought a Switch in the first place
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Jun 17, 2019 04:35
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Saagonsa posted:Both Z moves and megas are very good, but dynamax is not great and way more boring than both Megas were good, Z moves were okay but mechanically were used for little more than a guaranteed KO in a lot of matches. I feel like there was potential for them to make them more interesting but would rather have them focus on megas again if we could only have one. But because its Gamefreak instead they just ditched both in favor of yet another mechanic that will probably last for one generation  indigi posted:z moves are better than mega evos actually  All they needed to do was dial back the really stupid megas they added in ORAS.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:36
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megas also had the opportunity cost of using your item slot, but you get to have an item and get big so thats a little more boring
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Jun 17, 2019 04:38
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Gettin being a uniform boost for all Pokemon is also super boring because it means you basically always just want to make your strongest offensive Pokemon big for the KOs. AT least Megas and Z-Moves had some incentives to use them on Pokemon that weren't already best in class. Weird stuff like Z-Splash, or Sableye getting a Mega form meant you could legitimately build a cool team around a Pokemon that might not have been great otherwise. So far we haven't seen any indication of that kind of stuff from Dynamaxing which kinda sucks.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:42
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I can't wait for the SS meta to revolve around dynamax Garchomp 
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Jun 17, 2019 04:49
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RatHat posted:That makes every defensive Mega form worthless then since you can only have it for 3 turns. Eh, depends on if it resets after you withdraw and switch I guess.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:56
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Flopsy posted:Eh, depends on if it resets after you withdraw and switch I guess. That would be hilariously broken and defeat the entire purpose of a 3 turn limit in the first place.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:58
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I dislike the lore behind megas and find it to have failed what it set out to do (make lesser mons be great) since some already popular mons got some really good megas. Nonetheless, megas are likely better than dynamax since it gave incentive to use a couple of pokemon like Khangaskan. Dynamaxing so far doesnt give any reason not to use it on the strongest pseudo-legendary you may have. And if g-max is closer to megas but kaiju, then this will boil down to a couple broken gigantamax or dynamax garchomp.
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Zore posted:That would be hilariously broken and defeat the entire purpose of a 3 turn limit in the first place. *shrugs* poo poo man I dunno, I'm just musing on unlikely what ifs here.
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