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Barudak posted:I was thinking summons since you cant do more than one in a fight without burning extremely rare resources and they build over time, but theyre not fully analogous. The full atb skill is just a skill to me since theres no cap on its usage. I was thinking Full ATB skills because they're character unique and take the place of your regular action, but yeah if you want you can just do them every turn. Summons are, well, summons, not limit breaks. They're a lot like the FFX ones. I guess gestalt mode is the equivalent of aeon overdrives, although it's not as stupid because you can't save up like 5 of them in order to turbofuck every boss.
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I would probably do a fiesta every month or so with those features and some other built in QOL like fast forward The FF1 randomizer and Free Enterprise have both taught me that I don't want more FF, I want to be able to go from start to finish in about 3 hours. Fiesta gets close that mark but some of the usual speedbumps keep me from feeling like doing it more than once a year
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https://projectdemi.com
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You lovely exciting man
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Amppelix posted:I have no problem with the entirety of the quickening system as it exists in the zodiac age, nor with the animations. It's a good system and the attacks are satisfying enough to watch over and over. The only problem is this batshit insane totally randomised damage thing. Quickenings had an even bigger issue in base FF12, since instead of Mist Charges like TZA they burn MP. Unless you got lucky and got an MP charge off the roulette for everyone right before you timed out, you were walking into the fight with 0 MP on everyone if the boss was still breathing. You grab level 3 quickenings for triple base MP and then never, ever touched them once they couldn't reliably one shot a boss.
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I'm playing FF7 for the first time on Switch, and while I know tidbits about the game from cultural osmosis, is there anything to know, like major missables (I understand there's optional characters,) or any noob trap stuff?
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Oxyclean posted:I'm playing FF7 for the first time on Switch, and while I know tidbits about the game from cultural osmosis, is there anything to know, like major missables (I understand there's optional characters,) or any noob trap stuff? there is an absolute shitload of missable items/equipment and yes, characters, to the point where you'd probably need a dedicated guide for it all. there's also an entire lengthy sidequest that you can miss completely if you wait too long to start it i'd say the biggest bullet points are the characters and that sidequest - look up how to recruit yuffie and vincent and how to start the wutai quest, and you should be fine enough the game's also pretty easy on the whole (superbosses excluded of course) so it's not like you'd screw yourself too badly if you forgot to pick up a bauble or two
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Jun 17, 2019 14:54
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Look up how to get Vincent and Yuffie and do their sidequests. They aren't permanently missable until pretty late into the game, but they both have a lot of unique dialogue in group scenes if you grab them as soon as possible, Yuffie especially. And they have the more involved sidequests in the game, Vincent especially expands a lot on the game's backstory. Besides that, I wouldn't describe any of the missables as really important, even if there's still a lot of it.
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Oxyclean posted:I'm playing FF7 for the first time on Switch, and while I know tidbits about the game from cultural osmosis, is there anything to know, like major missables (I understand there's optional characters,) or any noob trap stuff? assuming you're still in midgar, there's actually 2 materia that are quite easy to miss, very handy, and which you don't get another chance to grab until way later in the game. The first one you get for doing the mayor's puzzle on the try(ie: if he says you're wrong, you have to reload a save to get it), the other one is in the tube right after you get red 13 and fight the boss that shows up with him(this is actually a trend where materia spawn right after you do a boss fight and are gone forever if you leave the room without picking them up, always look for a shiny object right after you kill a boss).
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i forget, is blue magic easy to miss? i remember it feeling like id uncovered hidden lore when i was a kid but i might have just been being a kid about it
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Thanks for the responses, it's about what I figured so good to have confirmation.Endorph posted:Look up how to get Vincent and Yuffie and do their sidequests. They aren't permanently missable until pretty late into the game, but they both have a lot of unique dialogue in group scenes if you grab them as soon as possible, Yuffie especially. And they have the more involved sidequests in the game, Vincent especially expands a lot on the game's backstory. Besides that, I wouldn't describe any of the missables as really important, even if there's still a lot of it. If I'm understanding the implication right, Yuffie and Vincent are post Midgar? One of the things I've gathered/assume is once you're done Midgar, you don't go back, so I've sort of been trying to get an idea of when I should keep my eyes peeled.
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Oxyclean posted:Thanks for the responses, it's about what I figured so good to have confirmation. Yuffie and Vincent are after you get the overworld map. I think you can miss materia and stuff though
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cock hero flux posted:assuming you're still in midgar, there's actually 2 materia that are quite easy to miss, very handy, and which you don't get another chance to grab until way later in the game. The first one you get for doing the mayor's puzzle on the try(ie: if he says you're wrong, you have to reload a save to get it), the other one is in the tube right after you get red 13 and fight the boss that shows up with him(this is actually a trend where materia spawn right after you do a boss fight and are gone forever if you leave the room without picking them up, always look for a shiny object right after you kill a boss). That one time when you run into Sephiroth and he hucks a materia at you then fucks off is great I think it happens in the mansion basement or something?
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Oxyclean posted:Thanks for the responses, it's about what I figured so good to have confirmation.
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IIRC, there's two Enemy Skills that you can permanently miss chances of getting, but you don't have to worry about that until much much later. Trine is only casted by bosses, and is a pretty useful mid game Enemy Skill since it costs less MP than Aqua Breath or Beta and forms a nice trio of random encounter wiping Enemy Skills. The last opportunity for it is the final boss of Yuffie's main sidequest. The other is Pandora's Box which is a super late game multi target spell that's only cast once per game. The best Enemy Skills come from Manipulating some of the most random of random enemies. Without a guide of what spells to get and where to get them, it's only okay.
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I've probably replayed vii like seven times and not once have I ever done the mayor's puzzle correctly or even gotten everything there is to get in shiinra hq or seen every Easter egg in honeybee inn
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the mayor is named domino because they use the metaphor of a pizza to describe midgar sometimes domino's pizza
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MonsieurChoc posted:Remake FFV with cartoony graphics and a built-in Fiesta mode. one of the coolest things about ffx-2 is that they gave each dressphere / party member combination unique animations and victory poses, it would be so legit to have that for ffv
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Endorph posted:the mayor is named domino because they use the metaphor of a pizza to describe midgar sometimes just rushed out of work and screamed into the sky
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Oxxidation posted:just rushed out of work and screamed into the sky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlVFrktbcG0&t=218s
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Also the deputy mayor is called Hart in English, but his Japanese name could also be translated as Hut It's pizza all the way down
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mmm pizza
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Oxyclean posted:I'm playing FF7 for the first time on Switch, and while I know tidbits about the game from cultural osmosis, is there anything to know, like major missables (I understand there's optional characters,) or any noob trap stuff?
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Scalding Coffee posted:For the trap stuff, the number of enemies you defeat by that person and the number of Limit Breaks they use, are how they get more Limits. You may think that the latest Limit is the greatest, but it takes much longer to use it without manipulating its growth and that takes a lot of time compared to sticking to the Level 1 you shoot off every couple of battles. to go into more detail, limit breaks are in 4 tiers. you unlock the second limit of each tier by using the first limit 8 times, and you unlock the first limit of the next tier by killing 80 enemies (the counter resets after each unlock). the exception is tier 4, whose limits are unlocked by using a unique item gained through sidequesting, and only after all previous limits are unlocked
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Endorph posted:the mayor is named domino because they use the metaphor of a pizza to describe midgar sometimes Veib posted:Also the deputy mayor is called Hart in English, but his Japanese name could also be translated as Hut At least no one is named Papa John
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Mega64 posted:I was talking about 3-5. What's a good port of 5 that I can play on ps4, switch, or PC? I only ever had the Final Fantasy Anthology version and hell if I know where in my parents house that is buried. I've always wanted to do 4JF.
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The most important missables in FF7 are in a particular spot when you return to Midgar for once. You should absolutely follow a guide then. Also, steal from the Turks.
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KidDynamite posted:What's a good port of 5 that I can play on ps4, switch, or PC? I only ever had the Final Fantasy Anthology version and hell if I know where in my parents house that is buried. I've always wanted to do 4JF. Emulated GBA version with the sound restoration fix
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seiferguy posted:The most important missables in FF7 are in a particular spot when you return to Midgar for once. You should absolutely follow a guide then. Yeah, W-Item is really easy to miss if you just follow the game when you return to Midgar. The game even tries to go out of its way to make you miss certain items. Also if you fail to get Trine from Materia Keeper you can get it from Stilva in the Gaea's Cliff Dungeons, the enemy that looks a bit like a smaller Materia Keeper but coloured red. You should also get Magic Breath from him too.
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there's also Might Guard, which i think is found by the squid dudes on the Wutai continent beach, and that can only be gained by using Manipulate to force them to cast it on you and that's not even getting into the kooky bullshit that happens with the Pandora's Box skill
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Oxxidation posted:there's also Might Guard, which i think is found by the squid dudes on the Wutai continent beach, and that can only be gained by using Manipulate to force them to cast it on you Big Guard, yeah it can only be gained by manipulating Beach Plugs on the beaches near Costa Del Sol or the Gold Saucer. White Wind too, which can only be gained by manipulating a Zemzelett near Junon. One of the best early enemy skills you can learn as it's similar to Aerith's Healing Wind limit but it also removes every single negative status. Dell_Zincht fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 17, 2019 |
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It's also worth noting that even if you miss tons of stuff the game is still easy, so unless it bothers you knowing that you missed something I wouldn't worry that much. You'll still pick up plenty of good stuff and enemy skills playing it blind. The exception is the optional characters, check a guide for them.
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Just finished 7 again after not having beat it in years. Forgot how abrupt the ending is. Also I kinda feel like most of the game is front loaded on disc 1. Disc 2 speeds up a lot of stuff, but it's not as bad as how disc 3 gets.
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I think the pacing is fine, the disc breaks are just weird. If it helps make sense, all the games actual gameplay content is repeated on each disc, the multiple discs were only requires because the cutscenes ate up that much space.
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Barudak posted:I think the pacing is fine, the disc breaks are just weird. If it helps make sense, all the games actual gameplay content is repeated on each disc, the multiple discs were only requires because the cutscenes ate up that much space. Maybe it just felt weird to me, it's been a while since I play it so a lot of it was forgotten. All in all, the game still holds up.
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cock hero flux posted:9's use automatically when they fill up and take a million years to fill, which means that 100% of limit breaks you get throughout a run will be in random trash encounters or 1 turn before beatrix one shots your entire party 9's formula is (n+=(1...spirit))>=256, though if you have high tide it's (n+=spirit)>=256 so if you don't have High Tide and if you have low Spirit, it can take as many as 256 offensive actions/hits taken to fill the gauge up. but if you have the cap of 50 Spirit with High Tide equipped, you'll always get Trance every sixth attack landed/hit received, which is so abundant you're almost guaranteed to get one for each character in every boss fight. that said most players will skip High Tide because it's a very expensive skill, and of course Quina's Trance is useless(?) against bosses, so that doesn't exactly help unless you know the system inside out. 9 is kind of like 8 in that way, if you just roll with it certain parts of the systems will seem frustrating because they're extremely opaque but if you know exactly what you're doing then you can control everything. it also kind of sucks though because you lose Trance if you get hit with Zombie and there's no way to immunize yourself against that Bregor posted:At least no one is named Papa John president john shinra Fur20 fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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Barudak posted:I think the pacing is fine, the disc breaks are just weird. If it helps make sense, all the games actual gameplay content is repeated on each disc, the multiple discs were only requires because the cutscenes ate up that much space. My favorite thing is that the speedrun takes advantage of that fact, where they glitch to the end and it loads the wrong FMV so everyone is flying around in front of inexplicable trains. Reminds me of the Wild ARMS demo where they didn't have time to do it properly so it's literally just the full game with an arbitrary wall that says 'OK stop playing', but you can glitch past it and play the whole game for free 
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I like how you can save Aeris by swapping with a SaGa Frontier cd at the right spot.
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i'm kind of glad for 8's unintended limit break usage because Quistis feels way more a blue mage when you can just access her skillset like it were a command menu rather than something that comes up rarely
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MonsieurChoc posted:I like how you can save Aeris by swapping with a SaGa Frontier cd at the right spot. If you name her Aerith it'll restore the lines of code that enable you to revive her by shooting the airship fin exactly 3 times in the rollercoaster at the gold saucer.
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