FFV 4JF 2019: The Zerker Risk was Calculated, but man, am I bad at axe

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Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

And a second berserker for me. The person right next to me on the player's list only has one berserker and they risked too...so does that mean everybody got one this year and some of us got two? Did we ever find out the amount of money that would equal one berserker versus the number that risked?

Oh, and I did random. So conceivably maybe the ratio was under one and I just got a natural one too. And I could get another for that matter...does Gilgabot always say hahaha when you get a berserker or is that only for risk berserkers?

# ? Jun 17, 2019 14:42

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# ? May 24, 2024 11:31

Samuel Clemens: Oct 4, 2013; I think we should call the Avengers.

Some Guy TT posted:

And a second berserker for me. The person right next to me on the player's list only has one berserker and they risked too...so does that mean everybody got one this year and some of us got two? Did we ever find out the amount of money that would equal one berserker versus the number that risked?

I've always been under the impression that Berserker-risk only applies to Crystals which have a chance of naturally giving you a Berserker according to the type of run you've chosen. So Normal runs will only give a Berserker at the Water Crystal, but Random runs can get one on any post-Water one, and Chaos/Pure Chaos even on the Wind Crystal.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 14:48

Bisse: Jun 26, 2005

Got a thief start and haven't played this game in 15 years, this is gonna be interesting.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 14:55

Bregor: May 31, 2013; People are idiots, Leslie.

Does anyone have the damage calculation for Open Fire? Is it affected by weapon power or strength/agility at all?

# ? Jun 17, 2019 14:58

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

Bregor posted:

Does anyone have the damage calculation for Open Fire? Is it affected by weapon power or strength/agility at all?

code:

  [Open Fire]
  Doesn't break Confuse.
  104/256  Black shot   Darkness  115 ATK
  62 /256  Purple shot  Poison    115 ATK
  60 /256  Red shot     Confuse   175 ATK
  30 /256  X shot       Death     215 ATK (can kill undead)

M = [(Level * Level) / 128] + 2

# ? Jun 17, 2019 15:06

Bregor: May 31, 2013; People are idiots, Leslie.

Thanks!

# ? Jun 17, 2019 15:09

blinking beacon nose: Nov 1, 2004; birthday frog comes bearing gifts and special birthday wishes

Went with Bad Party of Monk, Red Mage, Geomancer, and Dancer. (Bought in Job Fair FYI those doing Fiesta for the first time)

Barehanded Geomancer is pretty badass. Galuf's a palette swapped Santa Claus who can just punch the poo poo out of people, which is pretty cool.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 15:15

KataraniSword: Apr 22, 2008; but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

blinking beacon nose posted:

Went with Bad Party of Monk, Red Mage, Geomancer, and Dancer. (Bought in Job Fair FYI those doing Fiesta for the first time)

Barehanded Geomancer is pretty badass. Galuf's a palette swapped Santa Claus who can just punch the poo poo out of people, which is pretty cool.

You'll be fine all through world 1 and "okay" for the first half of World 2.

Have fun with everything from Moore forward. :gibs:

A few tips: Barehanded on anyone you want to be doing melee attacking will pass on Monk Strength even if they have weapons on, which can be a godsend for Dancer. Alternately, HP +30% will let you survive Almagest a LOT earlier. Protect will save your life. Love it, cherish it. Red Mage can use staves so you might want to farm up a few Staves of Light from Metamorphs in Ghido's Cave to snap over W2 Exdeath's head. Don't be afraid to take on Fork Tower - while you might have survivability problems with Minotaur, it's worth it for access to the Wonder Wand, which will help you a bit in the endgame if you take the time to prep it.

KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jun 17, 2019

# ? Jun 17, 2019 15:26

DalaranJ: Apr 15, 2008; Yosuke will now die for you.

Well, I�m going to get ranger, and my jobs are mediocre, so I just realized that I have never slotted !aim and have no idea what it does.

Is it an accuracy buff, or an attack with 100% accuracy? If it�s an attack does it require bows? If it doesn�t require bows... does it avoid the flee effect of chicken knife? :getin:

# ? Jun 17, 2019 15:26

wodenspoon: May 2, 2018

DalaranJ posted:

Well, I�m going to get ranger, and my jobs are mediocre, so I just realized that I have never slotted !aim and have no idea what it does.

Is it an accuracy buff, or an attack with 100% accuracy? If it�s an attack does it require bows? If it doesn�t require bows... does it avoid the flee effect of chicken knife?

It's an attack with 100% accuracy.

edit: apparently totally wrong about the chicken knife, nothing to see here!

wodenspoon fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jun 17, 2019

# ? Jun 17, 2019 15:28

Complete_Cynic: Jan 18, 2013

DalaranJ posted:

Well, I�m going to get ranger, and my jobs are mediocre, so I just realized that I have never slotted !aim and have no idea what it does.

Is it an accuracy buff, or an attack with 100% accuracy? If it�s an attack does it require bows? If it doesn�t require bows... does it avoid the flee effect of chicken knife?

Aim doesn't avoid the run chance for the Chicken Knife, but Rapid Fire does!

Aim itself is a 100% accurate attack which can trigger any of the usual procs (Death on the Assassin Dagger, etc)

Edit: It doesn't need Bows - it even works with low-accuracy stuff like Axes (assuming you have proficiency), which is an okay-ish option? Also makes the Blood Sword viable if that's something you'd want.

Complete_Cynic fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jun 17, 2019

# ? Jun 17, 2019 15:30

Cattail Prophet: Apr 12, 2014

Complete_Cynic posted:

Edit: It doesn't need Bows - it even works with low-accuracy stuff like Axes (assuming you have proficiency), which is an okay-ish option? Also makes the Blood Sword viable if that's something you'd want.

Also important to note that bows themselves have fairly shaky accuracy as well, so until you unlock rapid fire, you should pretty much always be slam picking !aim over !fight on your ranger unless you like missing a bunch.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 15:48

Ace Transmuter: May 19, 2017; I like video games

People who talk about how Chocobo, Sylph, and Remora are useless have obviously never tried to get Shiva with 4 Summoners (and no Fire Rods) before.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:27

OzFactor: Apr 16, 2001

Man, the Winner Risk party (Blue-Berserker-Summoner-White) is so good. It's better than the regular Winner party. That's an ideal backup group for a Berserker.

Gonna grab the Brave Blade despite my previous post because I have never tried to see if the Goblin Punch formula is the same in the Matrix versions. I'm sure the formula is the same, just meaning if it calculates the BB at full power no matter what.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:27

Ragequit: Jun 1, 2006; Lipstick Apathy

I am a little confused on the Chaos run. I ended up with Ninja to start off. Made my way to the Water crystal, where Gilgabot gave me Thief. Can I now make everyone a Thief and then mix it up once I have Ninja available? Probably should have just done a regular run, as that's fairly straight forward.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:28

OzFactor: Apr 16, 2001

Ragequit posted:

I am a little confused on the Chaos run. I ended up with Ninja to start off. Made my way to the Water crystal, where Gilgabot gave me Thief. Can I now make everyone a Thief and then mix it up once I have Ninja available? Probably should have just done a regular run, as that's fairly straight forward.

It's totally up to you. Sometimes I feel like honoring the concept and I'll leave someone as a Freelancer if I'm supposed to have a class I don't have access to, but just do what makes it the most fun for you.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:30

Ragequit: Jun 1, 2006; Lipstick Apathy

OzFactor posted:

It's totally up to you. Sometimes I feel like honoring the concept and I'll leave someone as a Freelancer if I'm supposed to have a class I don't have access to, but just do what makes it the most fun for you.

I did that until I had Thief available, so I suppose I am still honoring the spirit of the event. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't recommended to keep a Freelancer on deck to "fill" the Ninja role I don't have access to yet. Thanks for the confirmation.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:37

Serenity Dove: Jan 29, 2008; If I had a Pikachu, it'd probably eat my stuff.

First job is Blue mage. Pretty happy as that�s a class I�ve never gotten for the Fiesta before. Time to get hit in the face with all the abilities/magic!

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:41

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

OzFactor posted:

Gonna grab the Brave Blade despite my previous post because I have never tried to see if the Goblin Punch formula is the same in the Matrix versions. I'm sure the formula is the same, just meaning if it calculates the BB at full power no matter what.

Blue Mage won't be able to use it though.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:42

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

OzFactor posted:

Man, the Winner Risk party (Blue-Berserker-Summoner-White) is so good. It's better than the regular Winner party. That's an ideal backup group for a Berserker.

Gonna grab the Brave Blade despite my previous post because I have never tried to see if the Goblin Punch formula is the same in the Matrix versions. I'm sure the formula is the same, just meaning if it calculates the BB at full power no matter what.

The only problem is that it isn't an easy Triple Crown. Thunder Rod Ramuh is the best damage available and you're going to eat all the counters with a Berserker in there. I might Job Fair the White Mage into a Bard if I can't do it.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:44

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

Black mage is so overpowered I'm not feeling the double risk at all. Before topping off world one I just wanted to know- will the doom sickles auto revive the final boss's zombie form? Do I need a backup weapon?

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:45

OzFactor: Apr 16, 2001

Kyrosiris posted:

Blue Mage won't be able to use it though.

I knew I was forgetting something

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:50

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

If you mean Archeoaevis, that last form isn't actually undead, so axe away.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:50

Some Guy TT: Aug 30, 2011

Sweet. Thanks.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:51

MatchaZed: Feb 14, 2010; We Can Do It!

Hey, the old google drive link to the goon FFV guide is dead. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MrmmtZPyCJnRL8ecIp5LOwhDnb_9FLeFQNjOzyVI-R8/edit doesn't work.

Admiral Joeslop posted:

edit: Thanks!

MatchaZed fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jun 17, 2019

# ? Jun 17, 2019 16:53

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

WilliamAnderson posted:

Hey, the old google drive link to the goon FFV guide is dead. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MrmmtZPyCJnRL8ecIp5LOwhDnb_9FLeFQNjOzyVI-R8/edit doesn't work.

1st Stage Midboss posted:

I'm not sure if there were any changes made to it after I made this copy in 2015, but I have one. Unless we're talking about a different document?

# ? Jun 17, 2019 17:00

Action George: Apr 13, 2013

I got a full part of Black Mage/Red Mage/Geomancer/Chemist. Pretty much the exact opposite of my normal play style in RPGs of picking mindless fighter types. Guess I have some studying to do to figure out how to use these classes.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 17:46

Baku: Aug 20, 2005; by Fluffdaddy

Freelancer/Monk/Ninja/Chemist

Sweet. Time to get punch drunk.

Action George posted:

I got a full part of Black Mage/Red Mage/Geomancer/Chemist. Pretty much the exact opposite of my normal play style in RPGs of picking mindless fighter types. Guess I have some studying to do to figure out how to use these classes.

Rod breaking will carry you through the first half of the game, !Black the rest of the way, Chemist can take care of any weird speedbumps. !Gaia is a great MP-free secondary command for mages, and having level 3 white magic from !Red will keep you patched up as you navigate dungeons.

Sweet and powerful. Have fun!

Baku fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jun 17, 2019

# ? Jun 17, 2019 17:51

Bregor: May 31, 2013; People are idiots, Leslie.

Action George posted:

I got a full part of Black Mage/Red Mage/Geomancer/Chemist. Pretty much the exact opposite of my normal play style in RPGs of picking mindless fighter types. Guess I have some studying to do to figure out how to use these classes.

- hit elemental weaknesses
- Succubus Kiss = !Mix Maiden's Kiss and Turtle Shell

That's, like, 95% of the game right there

# ? Jun 17, 2019 17:51

Action George: Apr 13, 2013

Bregor posted:

- hit elemental weaknesses
- Succubus Kiss = !Mix Maiden's Kiss and Turtle Shell

That's, like, 95% of the game right there

Bu.. b... but.. I have to hoard all of my resources in case I need to them later.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 17:54

Bruceski: Aug 21, 2007; The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Shoehead posted:

I literally just had that realisation. Should make the ship graveyard go quicker now that I have the rest of the morning free

Near the start of the ship graveyard explore around to find the flail (involves finding some secret rocks). Big QoL weapon for a white mage party.

Bruceski fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 17, 2019

# ? Jun 17, 2019 17:59

Azza Bamboo: Apr 7, 2018; THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

This really sucked. I had to keep one person on frontline while everyone else spammed potions at the guy. Not only that but I had to change who said guy was depending on who had whatever weird vulnerable status effect was open on them.

It cost me an elixir but it's done. What a mess.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:20

wodenspoon: May 2, 2018

Azza Bamboo posted:

This really sucked. I had to keep one person on frontline while everyone else spammed potions at the guy. Not only that but I had to change who said guy was depending on who had whatever weird vulnerable status effect was open on them.

It cost me an elixir but it's done. What a mess.

You're past the worst now! That fight is an awful slog with a Thief start. Good job suffering through!

# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:32

Kheldarn: Feb 17, 2011

Ragequit posted:

I am a little confused on the Chaos run. I ended up with Ninja to start off. Made my way to the Water crystal, where Gilgabot gave me Thief. Can I now make everyone a Thief and then mix it up once I have Ninja available? Probably should have just done a regular run, as that's fairly straight forward.

Alternately, if you're playing on GBA, you can either get the patch that unlocks all jobs from the start, or use a code to unlock all jobs.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:32

mp5: Jan 1, 2005; Stroke of luck!

Azza Bamboo posted:

This really sucked. I had to keep one person on frontline while everyone else spammed potions at the guy. Not only that but I had to change who said guy was depending on who had whatever weird vulnerable status effect was open on them.

It cost me an elixir but it's done. What a mess.

What's your water job?

# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:43

OzFactor: Apr 16, 2001

Azza Bamboo posted:

This really sucked. I had to keep one person on frontline while everyone else spammed potions at the guy. Not only that but I had to change who said guy was depending on who had whatever weird vulnerable status effect was open on them.

It cost me an elixir but it's done. What a mess.

I hope for your sake that you stole some Mythril Knives from the Wyverns in the Tower. It's not too bad with one of them. But yeah, most classes should be just having one dude hit Garula and the rest hang out in the back and heal with potions.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:50

zenguitarman: Apr 6, 2009; Come on, lemme see ya shake your tail feather

Is #advance like chaos? I just got this on Android so I can play on the go and was gonna do pure chaos, but was kind of curious about those new classes

# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:59

MagusDraco: Nov 11, 2011; even speedwagon was trolled

zenguitarman posted:

Is #advance like chaos? I just got this on Android so I can play on the go and was gonna do pure chaos, but was kind of curious about those new classes

advanced is a little different. All the non GBA jobs are mashed into the first three crystals. The GBA jobs (gladiator, cannoneer, and oracle) are in the last crystal but don't unlock until you do all 4 tablet dungeons.

# ? Jun 17, 2019 19:02

zenguitarman: Apr 6, 2009; Come on, lemme see ya shake your tail feather

Ehh I might keep it simple this year, I was on the fence about registering anyway but figured I'd go leisurely. Unless the new jobs are super fun or something

# ? Jun 17, 2019 19:05

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# ? May 24, 2024 11:31

mp5: Jan 1, 2005; Stroke of luck!

zenguitarman posted:

Is #advance like chaos? I just got this on Android so I can play on the go and was gonna do pure chaos, but was kind of curious about those new classes

Also those jobs are mostly weird and bad except for Gladiator

# ? Jun 17, 2019 19:06

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