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RVWinkle posted:Is that an artifact of digital capture? I assume they could manipulate that in post. Shutter speed cannot be changed after the fact, no. Theoretically you could shoot everything with a high-speed camera and average a greater or smaller number of consecutive frames to effect slower or faster shutters, but I’ve never heard of anyone doing that.
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Powered Descent posted:These days, it's universally acknowledged that the best available release is the quasi-legal Harmy's Despecialized Edition, which basically strives to re-create the laserdisc version but using the highest-quality elements available of everything. Exactly why I have them on LaserDisc. And drat the Harmy releases are big files - always forget how much a release uncompressed is!
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Powered Descent posted:These days, it's universally acknowledged that the best available release is the quasi-legal Harmy's Despecialized Edition, which basically strives to re-create the laserdisc version but using the highest-quality elements available of everything. The current best version is 4K77, the 4K scanned restoration of an original Technicolor film print.
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First of May posted:The current best version is 4K77, the 4K scanned restoration of an original Technicolor film print. From what I can tell, the 4k77 will be the most accurate to 1977 version, while the Harmys editions will be actually watchable and enjoyable.
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evobatman posted:From what I can tell, the 4k77 will be the most accurate to 1977 version, while the Harmys editions will be actually watchable and enjoyable. Uh, what does "watchable and enjoyable" mean? Harmy's edits are reconstructions; 4K77 is the real thing.
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I went on the 4k77 website and it says that it will be accurate to the version played in 1977, but it might not actually be good due to the limitations of how the film was made and printed and sent to theaters.
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Probably means you'll get things like the cig burns and mono soundtrack that would be faithful to the original presentation but would suck on your home theatre system.
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Weirdly dismissive, ITT. I've seen it, it's good, better than Harmy's and certainly better than the LD, yay Star Wars. Watch whichever version you like best, I guess. Lots of love.
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Is the 4k77 from the same original transfer as that Silver Screen edition from a while back? 'Cause that Silver screen version was the tits: it had that beautiful film grain and looked amazing and better than any other fan edit/reconstruction thing I've ever seen.
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No, 4K77 is from a dramatically better print. The SS edition was a copy of a copy with significant color fading and damage, 4K77 is from an original Technicolor print that a private collector loaned out based on how good SSE was.
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Are there restored versions like this for Empire and Jedi? I've never rally looked into it, but every time I hear people talk about this it's always the first film.
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There are, but not restored to the same pristine degree.
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First of May posted:No, 4K77 is from a dramatically better print. The SS edition was a copy of a copy with significant color fading and damage, 4K77 is from an original Technicolor print that a private collector loaned out based on how good SSE was. Nice
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Those versions revealed all of the white duct tape holding the stormtrooper armour together.
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4k77 is awesome, the grain and general roughness enhance the movie if anything, covering up the optical compositing flaws and rough special effects.
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SCheeseman posted:4k77 is awesome, the grain and general roughness enhance the movie if anything, covering up the optical compositing flaws and rough special effects. I still have zero idea on what to do in Newsgroups to get poo poo working.
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Humphreys posted:I still have zero idea on what to do in Newsgroups to get poo poo working. I managed to get 4K77 downloaded but it required a password to unpack that I couldn't find anywhere. 4K83 worked fine but it won't play smoothly on my old rear end Haswell i5 and GTX 970. I need to get around to encoding it in x264 but it's gonna take forever.
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Well I downloaded all 87 gigabytes of 4K77, and I am happy to say it is both watchable and enjoyable.
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I'm trying to think of a practical way to stream that to my tv.
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What's the bitrate?
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About 12 megabyte or 100 megabits per second I'm guessing by dividing 87 GB into two hours. I just put it on an external harddrive that plugged into my TV, which could play the file just fine on its internal media player. You can also use Universal Media Server on a PC, but wifi might be iffy and you might prefer cabled devices. A PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 or Xbox one should easily be able to play the 1080p version of the file. As a sidenote, watching it felt very much like I was studying filmgrain and 70s moviemaking instead of watching a movie, just like an audiophile who listens to his equipment instead of the music playing on it.
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I've never tried an external hard drive with my Vizio. I should probably test that.
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http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/talesfromthedarkside/main.html#main
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Monday_ posted:I managed to get 4K77 downloaded but it required a password to unpack that I couldn't find anywhere. Last night I found a program called smplayer that will play these just fine even if you have an old hosed up video card like mine, in case anyone was curious. Now that I think about it, the reason they wouldn't play in MPC-HC might have been because madVR was trying to apply a bunch of postprocessing that my CPU just couldn't handle. These are both extremely nice looking, much better than Harmy's Despecialized. Monday_ has a new favorite as of 13:36 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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Casimir Radon posted:I've never tried an external hard drive with my Vizio. I should probably test that. I managed to find a 76GB MKV and my Plex server was too crippled to play it. The PS4 hated my hard drive but TV worked ok through a USB HDD. EDIT: Just had to choose language channel 14 or something stupid and oh boy get the DNR version. No-DNR looks trash. Humphreys has a new favorite as of 13:43 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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Holy moley, in 2019 tyool, I had totally forgotten about angelfire until right now.
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Humphreys posted:I managed to find a 76GB MKV and my Plex server was too crippled to play it. The PS4 hated my hard drive but TV worked ok through a USB HDD. Agreed. I have no problem with grain but just going by their screenshots the colors on the no-DNR version just look completely washed out.
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LifeSunDeath posted:Holy moley, in 2019 tyool, I had totally forgotten about angelfire until right now. I didn't know any of the angelfire sites were still around. Tales from the Darkside owned, though
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Monday_ posted:Agreed. I have no problem with grain but just going by their screenshots the colors on the no-DNR version just look completely washed out. If I'm reading the website right, they released a third version (color graded but no noise reduction) a bit later.
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Computer viking posted:If I'm reading the website right, they released a third version (color graded but no noise reduction) a bit later. I've got 1.4 on the way now - maybe its better
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I thought angelfire was gone, like geocities Oh good lord Tripod still exists
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Dr. Quarex posted:No surely you are thinking of Tripod If only everyone hadn't jumped into the Geocities bandwagon, all of the homepages we made in high school would still exist as a time-capsule to our 14 year old selves.
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Iron Crowned posted:If only everyone hadn't jumped into the Geocities bandwagon, all of the homepages we made in high school would still exist as a time-capsule to our 14 year old selves. No kidding. Thank god they’re gone
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:No kidding. Thank god they’re gone Nothing's ever gone
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I feel like I've had geocities sites but I've never been able to find anything from any usernames I can remember.
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Geocities arranged things in a weird neighborhood format if I recall Mercifully I can’t recall where my site was
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Geocities arranged things in a weird neighborhood format if I recall Yeah it was as such: http://www.geocities.com/CumCity/Dumpsters/0420/
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They only did that like initially. By 2004(?) or so new accounts weren't locked into that scheme, and you could just choose youraccountname.geocities.com but the old stuff was still kept in the previous format. I feel like early geocities neighborhoods were an attempt at some kind of early social media before the term existed. Was that a thing?
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Grand Prize Winner posted:They only did that like initially. By 2004(?) or so new accounts weren't locked into that scheme, and you could just choose youraccountname.geocities.com but the old stuff was still kept in the previous format. The way I remember it, the first "neighborhood" in the address was supposed to be more of the loose theme of your page. The second "neighborhood" didn't really mean anything, it was just a way to add more numbers when they ran out.
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