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Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


The Fool posted:

We have a code system for individual servers, but services all have plain english cname records.


Holy poo poo this

Yeah idk why so many places use terrible names or cringy nerd poo poo code names. Names are for telling you what a thing is! Bonus points for a place that has like 2 locations in the same state and 50 employees with a standard like USCAHQDC001.contoso.com

We just have up to 4 character prefix for site, dash, name + number affix for servers w/ total not permitted to exceed 15 char. Similarly for network devices it's 3 letter prefix for site, dash, physical location (idf6 or w/e) , dash, 3 characters for device type and a number.

For workstations and other poo poo I don't care about the official standard is "it better have that fuckin site prefix+dash in there or it get's deleted from the domain automatically" and I leave it up to the local guys who are sticking machines in to assign names that make sense to them since they're the ones that deal with it. The AD joining scripts I give them won't allow for duplicates or anything egregiously bad. Any outliers from people being creative will sit in the computers OU otherwise known as the OU of forgetting until they are likely deleted.

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22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



22 Eargesplitten posted:

Oh good, my manager is back from vacation. Which means his daily emails full of generic “inspirational” grandma on Facebook level garbage are back too.

I should just make an Outlook rule to send them straight to the deleted folder.

Well, apparently that rule was premature. His first day back from his vacation, the director starts pulling groups into a room to let us know said manager just got fired.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003

George H.W. oval office posted:

I’ll take 3 letters over loving Mordor, Zeus, Alderaan any day of the week

Oh for sure, non-descriptive names drive me nuts.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




gently caress off nerds, I love named servers.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



CLAM DOWN posted:

gently caress off nerds, I love named servers.

Please don’t post about your paraphilias.

Alternatively: Relationships can wait, servers/storage/networking, I nut.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Well, apparently that rule was premature. His first day back from his vacation, the director starts pulling groups into a room to let us know said manager just got fired.

Woah, feels like there's a story to be told here :v:

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





22 Eargesplitten posted:

Well, apparently that rule was premature. His first day back from his vacation, the director starts pulling groups into a room to let us know said manager just got fired.

lol

drat man, you got powers

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


Antioch posted:

Side note: Why did we as a people decide that 3 letter codes were good enough for server names? This is some holdover from the bad old days of like, DOS and ARPANET or something isn't it? What's wrong with files.domain or something? Why is it always SER-MHT-DDM-01-W-SAV-01.domain? I get wanting a descriptive name for stuff but it's not like there's something stopping you from using DNS to make things actually readable.

Yes, at least in the Windows world it's a holdover specifically from Windows 2000 (or NT even?) and NetBIOS, where the names can't exceed 15 characters. So even though modern versions of Windows Server definitely support long names for machines, many various bits of Windows still use the NetBIOS name so even if you give your server a long name it'll get truncated in a lot of places. It pisses me the gently caress off that it's 20 years later and Microsoft still hasn't gotten rid of that one bit of backwards compatibility cruft - don't get me wrong, if Microsoft hadn't bent over backwards so much over the past 30 years to make sure of backwards compatibility they would never have gotten as far in the enterprise as they did (see under Apple), but guys, I think it's time for this one to croak. If any third-party system is still reliant on NetBIOS then maybe take it out back and mercy shoot it in the head.

[Clam Down apparently posted: gently caress off nerds I love named servers]

Welp, looks like I was right to keep him on ignore. Wasn't someone asking Lowtax for the ability to have quoted posts of your ignored posters also not show up for you? That would be handy.

fakeedit: the irony of wanting servers named Mordor and Alderaan and then calling other people nerds

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Wibla posted:

Woah, feels like there's a story to be told here :v:

He was a pretty terrible manager tbh. Never fired anyone, failed a subordinate who was a personal friend upward into a lead position so they wouldn’t have to be on call or on the main call rotation because the lead barely has the technical skills required to be the on the triage team. Would bend over backwards for customers to the point we would do stuff completely out of scope just to make them happy. Perpetuated a culture where nothing can improve because we basically can’t ever have people on hold, so we never have time for training or documentation, which means there are systems literally nobody on the tier 1 team has any training on that we’re still expected to support.

And last but not least has been inappropriately familiar with female teammates. Not outright sexual touching but hugging when they were clearly uncomfortable with it. Nothing happened when it got reported, although at least it stopped.

That lead is likely on the way out too, the only reason they had a job was because the manager was protecting them.

Basically there’s been a huge upheaval of the self-protecting in crowd over this calendar year, at least in terms of the technical departments. I guess things haven’t finished shaking out.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jun 18, 2019

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Super Soaker Party! posted:

Yes, at least in the Windows world it's a holdover specifically from Windows 2000 (or NT even?) and NetBIOS, where the names can't exceed 15 characters. So even though modern versions of Windows Server definitely support long names for machines, many various bits of Windows still use the NetBIOS name so even if you give your server a long name it'll get truncated in a lot of places. It pisses me the gently caress off that it's 20 years later and Microsoft still hasn't gotten rid of that one bit of backwards compatibility cruft - don't get me wrong, if Microsoft hadn't bent over backwards so much over the past 30 years to make sure of backwards compatibility they would never have gotten as far in the enterprise as they did (see under Apple), but guys, I think it's time for this one to croak. If any third-party system is still reliant on NetBIOS then maybe take it out back and mercy shoot it in the head.

[Clam Down apparently posted: gently caress off nerds I love named servers]

Welp, looks like I was right to keep him on ignore. Wasn't someone asking Lowtax for the ability to have quoted posts of your ignored posters also not show up for you? That would be handy.

fakeedit: the irony of wanting servers named Mordor and Alderaan and then calling other people nerds

I support garbage trash systems that still use NetBIOS so I just accept the 15 char limit. :shobon:

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Super Soaker Party! posted:

[Clam Down apparently posted: gently caress off nerds I love named servers]

Welp, looks like I was right to keep him on ignore. Wasn't someone asking Lowtax for the ability to have quoted posts of your ignored posters also not show up for you? That would be handy.

fakeedit: the irony of wanting servers named Mordor and Alderaan and then calling other people nerds

I'm not a mod for this subforum, so this isn't me speaking as a mod, but you really really really need to stop announcing you have me on ignore, posting about how much you ignore my posts (especially my fun joke posts), then passive aggressively responding to them. It's hilariously obnoxious and useless.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


You can't just say that and not link to all the others.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


CLAM DOWN posted:

I'm not a mod for this subforum, so this isn't me speaking as a mod, but you really really really need to stop announcing you have me on ignore, posting about how much you ignore my posts (especially my fun joke posts), then passive aggressively responding to them. It's hilariously obnoxious and useless.

Also these threads have been really good at weeding out actual lovely posters and I don't have anyone on ignore.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Jun 18, 2019

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Friday, during the helpdesk rollout meeting:

"Yeah well we just wanted to roll this out even if it was in active development. If we delayed again, it wouldn't have been out before fall semester".

This helpdesk system will not let you update users by replying to the helpdesk e-mail. You have to manually copy in users to the ticket e-mail.

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Vargatron posted:

Friday, during the helpdesk rollout meeting:

"Yeah well we just wanted to roll this out even if it was in active development. If we delayed again, it wouldn't have been out before fall semester".

This helpdesk system will not let you update users by replying to the helpdesk e-mail. You have to manually copy in users to the ticket e-mail.

This must be one of those things where the people managing the deployment of the helpdesk software aren't actually using it?

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Nuclearmonkee posted:

This must be one of those things where the people managing the deployment of the helpdesk software aren't actually using it?

The response was, and I quote "well we didn't get any feedback from the testing group, so we just assumed everything was okay".

My group never received an invitation to the user acceptance testing meetings, so how could we have given feedback?

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe
Imo, putting someone on ignore is whatever, you do you. Saying that person X is on your ignore list is just lame.

Re:server names

I'm very boring and just name them Localation+OS+whatevertheydo+number

So like AMS-MS-DC01

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

Why are shared drives even a thing?
Why can't I just have a GPO make shortcuts or publish all the paths on the intranet instead?

So much time is wasted just trying to explain to users that their "I: drive" is not the same as everyone else's "I:" drive. Also just trying to figure out what the gently caress they're talking about when they say "I can't access the X: Y: and Z: drives" because all the loving shares are hidden and I have no goddamn idea what folder they're supposed to have mapped (and neither do they.)

I work with a vendor that makes enterprise software that emulates shared drives for users like this. So while Sally thinks her docs are going to the I drive, it really goes to a pre-defined section of a file server and not the 2.0TB USB drive from BestBuy that hangs off the PDC.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Bonzo posted:

I work with a vendor that makes enterprise software that emulates shared drives for users like this. So while Sally thinks her docs are going to the I drive, it really goes to a pre-defined section of a file server and not the 2.0TB USB drive from BestBuy that hangs off the PDC.

Why is your avatar Obama with his face in a vagina?

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Sickening posted:

Why is your avatar Obama with his face in a vagina?

GBS

Thanks for reminding me to get it changed back. I currently have icons turned off since I'm at work.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

We have this to a degree, but things get all sorts of hosed up because nothing is actually documented and departments have split and combined all over the place and there's constant turnover so nobody knows what the gently caress they need access to, or where poo poo is, and just put whatever they want where ever they want and demand that other people be given access to that place. So you wind up with one department director that has their GPO map their "I: drive" plus a login script JUST FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE loving SPECIAL, that maps like 8 other department's "I: drives" to different letters and now they're running around telling everyone that the document they need is in the "Q:" drive and all of a sudden there's a wave of people from 6 different departments that are all pissed and demanding "Q:" drive access.

:fuckoff: YOU ALL HAVE AN "S:" USE THAT.
"S: is for sharing, and sharing is caring."

There is an easy fix for this. Setup a GPO and everyone gets the same I drive and Q drive and any others.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





All department folders go into one mapped drive. Users only have access to folders as necessary. If users want to make a shortcut to their specific folders, they can do that on their own.

You've just reduced administrative overhead and increased collaboration between departments. Good job.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


The Fool posted:

Also these threads have been really good at weeding out actual lovely posters and I don't have anyone on ignore.

Eh I thought about doubling down but I'm the first to get annoyed at posters who insist they're right for the sake of being right and not admitting they may have made an error thus supposedly admitting to a huge glaring fault in their personalities, so whatever.

Clam Down you're off my ignore list and I'll stop posting about my ignore list because you're right it's dumb.

(this doesn't mean I like you)

(huge glaring fault is also my porn name for the California-specific fetish of porn set during an earthquake)

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
I choose to assume that same Google engineer from last time has locked himself in a network closet with a laptop again, and desperately trying to roll back Google Calendars this time. The scotch is gone, the bottle's been... refilled, and the knocking on the door is getting VERY insistent...

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Perhaps a better question is, who actually has someone on their buddy list?

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Perhaps a better question is, who actually has someone on their buddy list?

You’re not my buddy pal

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



MC Fruit Stripe posted:

Perhaps a better question is, who actually has someone on their buddy list?

Goon has no friends, world shocked.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


I for one like clams posts about the workers paradise that is Canada. I also like to be able to afford housing so I’ll take my Texas. Not Austin obviously

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

jaegerx posted:

You’re not my buddy pal

Who are you calling pal, friend?

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


jaegerx posted:

I for one like clams posts about the workers paradise that is Canada. I also like to be able to afford housing so I’ll take my Texas. Not Austin obviously

I'll give it you that Texas has affordable housing but things have changed. I've watched my friends modest homes in Dallas triple in value over the last two decades. It's not pretty and it's only a matter of time until it extends everywhere.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Oklahoma City is offering money again to get remote workers to move there. Maine too I think. It’s like 10k. That’s your double wide trailer done.

PBS
Sep 21, 2015

jaegerx posted:

Oklahoma City is offering money again to get remote workers to move there. Maine too I think. It’s like 10k. That’s your double wide trailer done.

Hmmm, if you want to live in one of those places anyway it's probably a good deal. Not sure it's worth the trouble of moving that far just to get 10k otherwise.

PBS fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Jun 19, 2019

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Texas isn’t perfect but I’ll take it over any of the other gulf states and Oklahoma and Arkansas

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


jaegerx posted:

Oklahoma City is offering money again to get remote workers to move there. Maine too I think. It’s like 10k. That’s your double wide trailer done.

I’d rather be homeless than in Oklahoma. The landing of nothing but constant heat. Least Texas has stuff to do and a inkling of culture.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Agrikk posted:

Who are you calling pal, friend?

You're not my friend, guy

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Tab8715 posted:

I’d rather be homeless than in Oklahoma. The landing of nothing but constant heat. Least Texas has stuff to do and a inkling of culture.

Of all the states to accuse of constant heat you choose Oklahoma? Like, have you ever been there?

Okc is fine and pretty much like any city of its size on America. Just as much “stuff” to do there as anywhere in Texas lmao.

siggy2021
Mar 8, 2010
Interesting development in my life. I did a CTF recently on a team with the lead pen-tester of the company I was trying to get a job as a Network Engineer with. I've tooled around with security stuff in the past, mostly on places like hack the box, but I wouldn't say I'm super proficient at it or anything. I did fairly well, but I guess I made a huge impression because I'm being offered a part-time gig moonlighting with them on security projects during their busier times to test the waters (both for them and me, I'm assuming) with the aim of eventually coming on full time as a security consultant if/when they grow a bit more and are looking to hire someone. I'm excited and terrified. This wasn't exactly the path I had in mind, but it's not something I'm entirely against either. Working 1.5 jobs for a bit might be annoying, but the extra money would be cool, getting to learn more and dive into the security/pen-testing world on a professional level is neat, and from the way it sounds it's more or less helping on projects when I'm available. On the other hand I feel woefully inadequate for this type of role with my current skill level, but I'm trying to keep reminding myself that can't be true, because they extended the offer to me.

Long story short I guess half a :toot: for now.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Sickening posted:

Of all the states to accuse of constant heat you choose Oklahoma? Like, have you ever been there?

Okc is fine and pretty much like any city of its size on America. Just as much “stuff” to do there as anywhere in Texas lmao.

A goon I know is actually trying to move back to OKC, the CoL is so much loving better than CO and they seem to be at the point where the job market is growing faster than they can find people wanting to move there.

poo poo, if it wasn’t for having so much stuff tying me to this state I’d be tempted by that kind of “work remote from here and we pay you” thing.

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo
We have the second-worst username schema I've ever seen. FirstnameLastname. Unless you've got the same as another person in the company, at which point it's FirstnameMLastname, with M being the middle initial, and other distinguishers added on a case-by-case basis. We have three Linda R. Joneses, so the first one is LindaJones, the second LindaRJones, and the third LindaJonesEsq.

For gently caress's sake, the only worse username scheme I've seen is (sitecode)(first initial)(last initial)(serial identifier)(random three-digit base-36 code), resulting in things like llj0zg1 or bar0bbq or what the gently caress ever.

That's the schema we moved *away from* in January.

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PBS
Sep 21, 2015

Exit Strategy posted:

We have the second-worst username schema I've ever seen. FirstnameLastname. Unless you've got the same as another person in the company, at which point it's FirstnameMLastname, with M being the middle initial, and other distinguishers added on a case-by-case basis. We have three Linda R. Joneses, so the first one is LindaJones, the second LindaRJones, and the third LindaJonesEsq.

For gently caress's sake, the only worse username scheme I've seen is (sitecode)(first initial)(last initial)(serial identifier)(random three-digit base-36 code), resulting in things like llj0zg1 or bar0bbq or what the gently caress ever.

That's the schema we moved *away from* in January.

Our system appends a number if there are duplicates, so you end up with john.smith@company.com and john.smith2@company.com.

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