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I wonder how much that drops the moment you drive it.
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Jun 18, 2019 15:45
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Two easy monthly payments of $house!
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Jun 18, 2019 15:46
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oh i like showing the biweekly payment that's a nice touch
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Jun 18, 2019 15:52
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:oh i like showing the biweekly payment that's a nice touch That's only two times a month right?
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Jun 18, 2019 15:53
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That’s a lot of annual tax write off.
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Jun 18, 2019 15:53
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Residency Evil posted:That's only two times a month right? Every 6 months its 3!
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Jun 18, 2019 15:53
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euphronius posted:Every 6 months its 3! Residency Evil posted:That's only two times a month right?
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Jun 18, 2019 15:54
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I did this for fun a while back to determine just how crazy the Porsche options list could get. An old post, but relevant to the current conversation.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:06
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:An old post, but relevant to the current conversation. A good post. I have heard that the whole point of the Cayman is to get people to start optioning it to the point where it rapidly gets so close to the price of a 911 that they just get that instead.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:15
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i own every Bionicle posted:A good post. That...isn’t a cayman
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Jun 18, 2019 17:17
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I'm okay with making people pay for ugly. I'm not okay with making keyless entry a $1000 option. loving Porsche, man.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:22
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i own every Bionicle posted:A good post. The Boxster and Cayman have both been intentionally crippled since day one as with the same engine they're a faster chassis than the 911. GM has long done the same with the Camaro/Corvette, Toyota detunes the V6 in the Camry and Avalon compared to in the ES350, etc It's one of the things that bothers me most about the industry, most cars could be better than they are at the same cost if not for bullshit designed to make people feel compelled to spend more money. See: Actually spending extra to put a shittier radio in base trims as a means to sell the more expensive trims, etc.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:24
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KillHour posted:I'm okay with making people pay for ugly. I'm not okay with making keyless entry a $1000 option. loving Porsche, man. I'm having a difficult time picturing some yuppie lawyer walking up to his Cayenne Turbo and physically sticking a little metal stick into the door like caveman times.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:26
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davebo posted:I'm having a difficult time picturing some yuppie lawyer walking up to his Cayenne Turbo and physically sticking a little metal stick into the door like caveman times.  Which is why you will never see a <$100k 911. Ever. Edit: I spec'd out a Carrera with the absolute minimum I would be happy driving every day and it was over $110k. The base model has partial cloth, manual adjust, non-heated seats. On a $90k car. KillHour fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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Jun 18, 2019 17:32
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davebo posted:I'm having a difficult time picturing some yuppie lawyer walking up to his Cayenne Turbo and physically sticking a little metal stick into the door like caveman times. Please stop attacking my wife.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:51
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partial cloth seats are good The car has keyless entry (ie push button to lock/unlock) in fairness - just not proximity based and not keyless starting i'm fine with having this as an option. i prefer the physical key to the remote key. we have one of each.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:54
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Keyless entry is proximity. That's why it's called keyless. My Focus has it.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:56
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KillHour posted:Keyless entry is proximity. That's why it's called keyless. My Focus has it. No, keyless means you don’t turn the key to unlock the car. A lot of late 2000s cars had keyless entry but you still had to put the key in the ignition
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Jun 18, 2019 18:00
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SO does the new Spyder/GT4 have n LSD or is it still open diff
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Jun 18, 2019 18:15
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KillHour posted:Keyless entry is proximity. That's why it's called keyless. My Focus has it. it isn't big crush on Chad OMG posted:No, keyless means you don’t turn the key to unlock the car. A lot of late 2000s cars had keyless entry but you still had to put the key in the ignition this is correct
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Jun 18, 2019 19:02
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There's a reason Porsche has by far the fattest margins in the industry
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Jun 18, 2019 19:05
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Wheeee posted:There's a reason Porsche has by far the fattest margins in the industry 17% or something like that
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Jun 18, 2019 19:07
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Let me rephrase. I'm not going to buy a 6 figure car that makes me take my key out of my pocket to open the door or turn it on. Except the one I just bought
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Jun 18, 2019 19:09
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Wheeee posted:There's a reason Porsche has by far the fattest margins in the industry I mean, the reason is that they sell huge numbers of a VW parts bin truck made cheaply in Eastern Europe at a very high price, not because masses of people are buying $170k Boxsters. GM's margins would be sky high too if they only sold Escalades, but instead Escalades are the reason we get the Cruze and other fun cars. 2020 Lexus GX 
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Jun 18, 2019 19:18
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Wow. Much predator grille. So scary.BraveUlysses posted:
That's what happens when you want your cars to look exciting, but not actually be exciting. And second to whoever mentioned the glossy trim getting scratched and marred to high hell, because it's gonna happen. drgitlin posted:I don’t want to sound rude but with feet that big I’m sure there’s a lot of footwells that are too small for your shoes. I can’t think of a single OEM that caters to the 100th percentile. I ran into that problem when looking at a used Mazda Millenia. I'm a size 13 and the driver's footwell just felt like it was really meant for Japanese geishas with tiny feet. I know some people frown on driving barefooted/in socks, but that's what I did for a lengthy road trip because it just felt comfortable. Maybe I need to invest in a pair of driving shoes.
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Jun 18, 2019 19:38
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At least you can polish glossy black trim because it's just a painted panel like everything else. It has a chance of looking better than faded gray splotchy plastic trim. He says as justification for not worrying about the glossy black trim on his new Golf R.
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Jun 18, 2019 19:44
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Tesla has their finger on the pulse of millenial buyers https://twitter.com/tesla/status/1141041018835353600
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Jun 18, 2019 19:52
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At least Porsche uses all the money they make off of ridiculous option packages and tacky SUVs to build cool stuff, like the enthusiast-focused 911s and Caymans, or the old LMP1 program. Meanwhile BMW has given up on building anything that isn't an SUV or an M car.
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Jun 18, 2019 19:58
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KillHour posted:Let me rephrase. I'm not going to buy a 6 figure car that makes me take my key out of my pocket to open the door or turn it on. at least the porsche would be usable
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Jun 18, 2019 19:58
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kimbo305 posted:Tesla has their finger on the pulse of millenial buyers is it bad if i like this
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Jun 18, 2019 19:59
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kimbo305 posted:Tesla has their finger on the pulse of millenial buyers So now you can sit in your car driving a car while your car supercharges for 45 minutes, then go drive your car? Can’t wait.
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Jun 18, 2019 19:59
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bull3964 posted:At least you can polish glossy black trim because it's just a painted panel like everything else. It has a chance of looking better than faded gray splotchy plastic trim. The Honda Passport has you covered if you love fingerprints and smudges all over your glossy black steering wheel controls! 
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Jun 18, 2019 20:00
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kimbo305 posted:Tesla has their finger on the pulse of millenial buyers If they really leave the steering enabled, somebody is going to come in to the dealer with flat spotted front tires :P
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Jun 18, 2019 20:53
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Can’t wait. You'll have to.
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Jun 18, 2019 20:55
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:So now you can sit in your car driving a car while your car supercharges for 45 minutes, then go drive your car? Can’t wait. nah you can wait and play games while you wait 3-6 months for replacement parts
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Jun 18, 2019 21:17
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BraveUlysses posted:nah you can wait and play games while you wait 3-6 months for replacement parts But Elon said Tesla will soon turn around car repairs in 1 hr E: he also said he wants to repair all Teslas in house, loving lol
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Jun 18, 2019 21:37
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:at least the porsche would be usable Not being able to drive it means I never have to take the key out*. Checkmate. *Which is important because it can't be put on a keychain and is made of glass 
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Jun 18, 2019 21:50
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Keyser_Soze posted:The Honda Passport has you covered if you love fingerprints and smudges all over your glossy black steering wheel controls! That's pretty much every car interior made in the last 5 years.
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Charles posted:If they really leave the steering enabled, somebody is going to come in to the dealer with flat spotted front tires :P Yeah, what the hell, drive by wire? Maybe it was to make the ad look a bit more dynamic. Countdown to some ped being killed cuz someone decided to play this at a light.
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