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Fancy Hat! posted:A demo for a game that has a few more months of development probably shouldn't be compared to a finished game? The game is out in November, by any corporate timeline things such as environmental graphics should be fully or nearly finalized by now
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Fancy Hat! posted:A demo for a game that has a few more months of development probably shouldn't be compared to a finished game? Anyone have beta screens from Zelda? I was looking for some to make the comparison better.
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Jun 18, 2019 22:33
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SeANMcBAY posted:https://twitter.com/retrostudios/status/1141083823947620353?s=21 For reference: ffviiR hired key staff for its second dev team (its game/battle designers iirc) in like 2017 and will launch 3 years later
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Jun 18, 2019 22:34
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Here's the BotW demo from e3 2016 which was farther from release than Pokemon is now https://youtu.be/viCsKYIw6vk It looks basically the same as the released game
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Jun 18, 2019 22:36
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Zore posted:Here's the BotW demo from e3 2016 which was farther from release than Pokemon is now
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Jun 18, 2019 22:38
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And that demo still ran like rear end
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Jun 18, 2019 22:39
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Yeah in a 6 month time frame you might see graphics get tweaked not completely overhauled. Keep your expectations in check, this is probably just an upscaled 3ds game in terms of visuals. Not that it matters much, you're still playing a glacial turn based rpg
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Jun 18, 2019 22:39
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Still strange that a first-party Nintendo game looks so mediocre visually, especially for one of their biggest franchise's first foray into next gen. I'm still gonna play the poo poo out of it
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Jun 18, 2019 22:43
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chaleski posted:Still strange that a first-party Nintendo game looks so mediocre visually, especially for one of their biggest franchise's first foray into next gen. I don't think Pokemon is first party in the same way as the other first party games since Gamefreak mostly acts on their own. I don't think Nintendo has a lot of control on how the game will eventually look.
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Jun 18, 2019 22:46
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Wildtortilla posted:I'm getting better at dodging the knives. Parrying them doesn't work very well? I knock the first knife away but the next two hit me. There's a single parry timing that catches all three knives, but I've had better luck parrying them individually. A successful parry has a way quicker recovery than a failed one, so you can parry all three knives by just tapping the button repeatedly
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Jun 18, 2019 22:49
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Macaluso posted:I don't think Pokemon is first party in the same way as the other first party games since Gamefreak mostly acts on their own. I don't think Nintendo has a lot of control on how the game will eventually look. I get the feeling Gamefreak is a pretty awful developer who couldn't handle anything outside of their guaranteed success niche.
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Jun 18, 2019 22:53
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Steve2911 posted:I get the feeling Gamefreak is a pretty awful developer who couldn't handle anything outside of their guaranteed success niche.
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Jun 18, 2019 22:55
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Steve2911 posted:I get the feeling Gamefreak is a pretty awful developer who couldn't handle anything outside of their guaranteed success niche. Pokemon Sword/Shield is their first HD 3D project isn't it?
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Jun 18, 2019 22:56
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Steve2911 posted:I get the feeling Gamefreak is a pretty awful developer who couldn't handle anything outside of their guaranteed success niche. They've made some cute experimental titles, Drill Dozer comes to mind, Pocket Card Jockey is great. None sell like bangers but they're pretty good
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Jun 18, 2019 22:57
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I think it’s a big leap to call someone a bad developer for having a mediocre environment in a demo
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Jun 18, 2019 22:57
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I like those stories about how incompetent Game Freak is going around, like how in SuMo dataminers found out that GF has many copies of the same, individual character models in the game and they're all designed to be used for one specific scene instead of having just one model they reuse. So there's like twenty different Lillies in the game, one for each location that she appears in the game.
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Jun 18, 2019 22:57
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Beastie posted:This was making the rounds on Reddit. I don’t think anyone was expecting them to be alike but that is some garbage foliage. Don't trust Reddit with this poo poo. Never forget the Spider-Man puddle controversy.
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Jun 18, 2019 22:59
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Policenaut posted:I like those stories about how incompetent Game Freak is going around, like how in SuMo dataminers found out that GF has many copies of the same, individual character models in the game and they're all designed to be used for one specific scene instead of having just one model they reuse. So there's like twenty different Lillies in the game, one for each location that she appears in the game. okay but why should I care
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Jun 18, 2019 23:00
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Augus posted:okay but why should I care That is something even amature game makers know not to do, and if that's the baseline then there is far more hacky poo poo lurking under the hood. It's also unoptimized as fuuuck because you're using 20 times the storage needed with all the excess Lillies that could've just addressed a single model instance. Things like that all add up.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:02
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Pokemon Sword/Shield is their first HD 3D project isn't it? No, that was Pokémon LGPE.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:03
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Policenaut posted:I like those stories about how incompetent Game Freak is going around, like how in SuMo dataminers found out that GF has many copies of the same, individual character models in the game and they're all designed to be used for one specific scene instead of having just one model they reuse. So there's like twenty different Lillies in the game, one for each location that she appears in the game. It's only incompetence if they run out of memory space using this trick. They did this intentionally to improve load times.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:04
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think it’s a big leap to call someone a bad developer for having a mediocre environment in a demo
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Jun 18, 2019 23:04
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Ada posted:It's only incompetence if they run out of memory space using this trick. They did this intentionally to improve load times. No, it's HACKY and WRONG because some clod on reddit said so.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:04
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Detective No. 27 posted:Don't trust Reddit with this poo poo. Idk what this is but I’m having fun guessing. Also yeah I want Pocket Card Jockey.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:05
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ImpAtom posted:TSA would be better if it was a minigames collection I swear I read multiple articles claiming Travis Strikes Again was going to be exactly that, some sort of minigame collection? Was super confused when I played it and it was just the same boring bullshit gameplay for the first two hours. Maybe I didn't play it long enough, but I didn't have any indication the gameplay was going to change. JBP posted:I guess I only ever played the original which was a good game where you did grid battles. I don't think I want to play this. Where's my new advance wars for when I'm done with Wargroove? I've played all of the english released Fire Emblem games and if you've only played one of them you should check out the others if you don't mind emulation. They all have their quirks, but I really enjoyed them all except one... don't remember which it was unfortunately. Whichever one made you visit shops during battle or whatever. There's a Fire Emblem game on most Nintendo consoles and even the older ones are worth playing, GBA/Wii/Gamecube/3DS.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:05
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They had infinite resources and quite a lot of time, they don't get any pity for being new to the system. I think the people upset about them not including all 1000 Pokemon are mad but the game is ugly as sin.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:05
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Steve2911 posted:they don't get any pity for being new to the system. They're not, this is the second Switch installment.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:07
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Were Game Freak one of those devs who were shocked at how well the Switch was selling? To the point that they had internally assumed they wouldn't have to make a mainline Pokemon game for the system aside from a Let's Go off-shoot? Like I wanna say there was one interview where someone from there was giving a wishy-washy answer about supporting the system with titles like you'd expect from EA or someone. That old "Oh I dunno we'll have to see if there are enough game buyers" song and dance.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:07
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Beastie posted:Idk what this is but I’m having fun guessing. https://gamerant.com/spider-man-ps4-puddle-controversy/
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Jun 18, 2019 23:08
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Botw looked good except for the five yard draw distance for anything but land
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Viewtiful Jew posted:To the point that they had internally assumed they wouldn't have to make a mainline Pokemon game for the system aside from a Let's Go off-shoot? LGPE are mainline games officially. Listed as such on the official website and everything. They're the last installments of the 7th generation.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:13
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So im finally playing my switch after a year. Im not in love the switch controls. What's the best recommended replacement controller?
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Jun 18, 2019 23:18
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Ada posted:It's only incompetence if they run out of memory space using this trick. They did this intentionally to improve load times. How would this ever improve load times?
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Jun 18, 2019 23:18
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The Bananana posted:So im finally playing my switch after a year. Pro controller.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:20
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The Bananana posted:So im finally playing my switch after a year. Are you using the joycons? I like the nintendo switch pro controllers. Very similar to an xbox controller and $50 at most places.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:22
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Pokemon is second party.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:23
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s.i.r.e. posted:How would this ever improve load times? yeah duplicating data for performance was a thing on spinning media (data physically closer together is faster to read) but that doesn't apply anymore with solid state storage i dont get it
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Jun 18, 2019 23:23
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Kurtofan posted:Pokemon is second party. Game Freak is, but Nintendo fully owns the Pokémon trademark.
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Jun 18, 2019 23:25
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s.i.r.e. posted:How would this ever improve load times? There's a trick that some games use on disc-based consoles where each level of the game has its own file containing its own copy of everything that level needs. The idea is that even if it's less efficient for disc space usage, reading a single file big sequentially is faster than seeking out a lot of smaller files scattered all over the place, since discs have particularly slow seek times. I guess it's possible that this is a thing for 3DS games too? Even though the game cards are solid state storage, stuff needs to be loaded into RAM before it can be used so maybe grouping together copies of everything needed for a single scene can be loaded sequentially faster?  Anyway it 100% is a thing that some games do even if I have no idea if Pokemon does it
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Katana zero is a brilliant game that sadly doesn’t do anything interesting or challenging with its mechanics until the last couple levels. This game badly needs its own version of Mario maker because it’s really satisfying to pull off a well executed run and then watch the replay of it.
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