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Our web based time clock just went down..... 5 minutes before lunch breaks start for a lot of our employees. Move everything to the "cloud" they said... it will be more reliable they said....
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stevewm posted:Our web based time clock just went down..... 5 minutes before lunch breaks start for a lot of our employees. I love the cloud. Lets me point fingers.
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Jun 19, 2019 16:39
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GreenNight posted:I love the cloud. Lets me point fingers. That part is nice, but it doesn't stop the flood of phone calls/emails/tickets from staff when things break 
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Jun 19, 2019 16:41
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, honestly at this point I'm just curious about the origin of the phrase. Someone on here (I think?) went into the etymology of "do the needful" and it was really fascinating; I'd love the same sort of thing regarding "revert" as "reply back". I think, like "do the needful", it's an archaic phrase that likely dates back to British occupation.
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Jun 19, 2019 16:44
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GreenNight posted:Yeah I’ve been hearing revert for years at this point. Basically just means respond. I used 'revert' instead of 'reply' in an email to my father and he mocked me mercilessly. Which was the Good Parent thing to do
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Jun 19, 2019 16:45
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, honestly at this point I'm just curious about the origin of the phrase. Someone on here (I think?) went into the etymology of "do the needful" and it was really fascinating; I'd love the same sort of thing regarding "revert" as "reply back". Either it's interference from a major language in India that uses their word for revert with the meaning of replying, or it was an attempt to sound more fancy that caught on among the C-levels and then spread as a prestige variant.
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Jun 19, 2019 16:49
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stevewm posted:Our web based time clock just went down..... 5 minutes before lunch breaks start for a lot of our employees. Not all clouds are created equal. What "cloud" is yours in?
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Jun 19, 2019 16:51
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GreenNight posted:I love the cloud. Lets me point fingers. They're my favorite outages. I can spend all day "investigating", then you look in the ticket and there's two entries. "Confirmed provider issue", and six hours later, "provider has restored services"
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Jun 19, 2019 16:52
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Shut up Meg posted:I used 'revert' instead of 'reply' in an email to my father and he mocked me mercilessly. shut up meg No but actually I get annoyed at Indians for continuing to use archaic British crap that even the British don't use. It's like "yo dudes, you finally got them out of the country, they aren't enslaving/pillaging/stealing everything anymore (but no seriously give back the jewels you stole and put in the British Museum, assholes) and you can go back to being your own country, why essentially continue a little bit of their colonialism by using these phrases?" I don't like British thing. (ok)
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Jun 19, 2019 16:57
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Sickening posted:Not all butts are created equal. What "butt" is yours in? Its run by a large software company some here may know... Epicor. I don't know if they run it themselves or have it on Azure, AWS, etc... I was on their live chat support (they provide no phone support for this particular product). And their live chat went down too... So the guy I was chatting with called me. He sounded a bit frustrated. Sounds like they have some major issues going on.
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Jun 19, 2019 16:58
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Yeah, I prefer to just fix poo poo and keep shitposting. I really like being able to say "welp, not my problem" but the resulting nagging about the problem that's not mine is more annoying than having to take a few minutes to fix some poo poo. Plus, cloud poo poo is often loving expensive once you're past only a few users. For that kind of cash I get to buy a ton of really cool hardware to janitor when bored.
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Jun 19, 2019 17:00
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stevewm posted:Its run by a large software company some here may know... Epicor. I don't know if they run it themselves or have it on Azure, AWS, etc... Even better. Your vendor and cloud are the same people and there is no better outage to have. Be sad about it all you want but there just is no better way. Nothing is outage free. Truga posted:Yeah, I prefer to just fix poo poo and keep shitposting. I really like being able to say "welp, not my problem" but the resulting nagging about the problem that's not mine is more annoying than having to take a few minutes to fix some poo poo. If someone has to break (everything breaks) I would prefer to not own it.
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Jun 19, 2019 17:02
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, honestly at this point I'm just curious about the origin of the phrase. Someone on here (I think?) went into the etymology of "do the needful" and it was really fascinating; I'd love the same sort of thing regarding "revert" as "reply back". Found this 2010 article https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/magazine/06FOB-onlanguage-t.html
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Jun 19, 2019 18:55
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Perhaps weirdly, I don't have a problem at all with "do the needful". "Needful" goes back a long way, and moreover there's no confusion available with other meanings. It's obvious what it means, and it's a reasonably convenient and versatile phrase—it just sounds a little goofy and archaic or jargony, like something a quartermaster in a Kipling novel would say. I doubt I'd use it myself, but any alternative phrasings I would use would be wordier or more colloquial. "Revert" is problematic mostly because it's really difficult to infer meaning if it's the first time you've run into it, and it can lead to really lovely practical outcomes (as posters have noted from personal experience).
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Jun 19, 2019 19:13
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When we last upgraded our server hardware for our main business line app, going with their cloud hosted option was going to be just over $220,000 over a 5 year period in addition to the support fees we already pay them. However going full tilt with all new hardware (2 of everything for redundancy), including a automatic natural gas powered generator and software licensing was $75k all in. We generally keep server hardware for 5-6 years. Even if you add in any maintenance costs (for the generator) and power costs, it was going to come no where near $220k over 5 years. The choice was obvious for us.
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Jun 19, 2019 19:31
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stevewm posted:Its run by a large software company some here may know... Epicor. In a past life we had Prophet21 on-prem, this doesn’t surprise me in the least about Epicor. What a garbage piece of software and company. Are there any market niche software apps for specific industry verticals that aren’t absolute garbage?
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Jun 19, 2019 19:46
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A lot of legacy/bad software vendors  deployments are just an EC2 VM running Windows Server with their application installed that they manage through TeamViewer.
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Jun 19, 2019 19:48
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stevewm posted:When we last upgraded our server hardware for our main business line app, going with their cloud hosted option was going to be just over $220,000 over a 5 year period in addition to the support fees we already pay them. However going full tilt with all new hardware (2 of everything for redundancy), including a automatic natural gas powered generator and software licensing was $75k all in. We generally keep server hardware for 5-6 years. Even if you add in any maintenance costs (for the generator) and power costs, it was going to come no where near $220k over 5 years. The choice was obvious for us. Nowhere near that scale, but I get asked at least once every few weeks why we don't move our email server and office apps to the cloud to "save money." First off, what makes you think I didn't check into that myself before making the decision to keep it in house? Secondly My hardware is paid for. The only cost to adding users is additional licensing. On that front, we're a non-profit that uses Microsoft systems. Micrcrosoft CALs, and Office seats are reasonably cheap for us through Tech Soup.
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Jun 19, 2019 20:13
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PremiumSupport posted:Micrcrosoft CALs, and Office seats are reasonably cheap for us through Tech Soup. Ugh I wish CALs where cheap for us... The Microsoft licensing alone cost the same as the hardware on that project. (lots of CALs, RDS CALs and SQL Core licenses)
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Jun 19, 2019 20:28
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When I said "fire the missiles" I meant decommission them!!
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Jun 19, 2019 20:31
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First of May posted:When I said "fire the missiles" I meant decommission them!! The Active Track(tm) target and missile decommissioning ceremony was a complete success sir! High energy decommissioning with Active Track(tm) technology is the latest and most efficient method of removing missiles from inventory, based on a study conducted by Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.
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Jun 19, 2019 20:41
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There’s a great episode of the Allusionist podcast about the weird form of English that’s evolved within the European Union bureaucracy https://www.theallusionist.org/allusionist/fix-ii
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Jun 19, 2019 20:48
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Indian English is a wonderful etymology thing, because it gives you sentences like "Horn OK Please" and they have actual true meaning despite looking like word salad
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Jun 19, 2019 21:12
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Flying to California tomorrow on short notice to babysit an acquisition's circuit upgrade. I kinda like traveling for work sometimes because working for a huge financial institution, they don't skimp on hotels or meals, unlike previous jobs. On the negative side, this trip came up too fast for my wife to join me. At least I get to keep the miles 
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Jun 19, 2019 23:20
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kensei posted:Flying to California tomorrow on short notice to babysit an acquisition's circuit upgrade. I kinda like traveling for work sometimes because working for a huge financial institution, they don't skimp on hotels or meals, unlike previous jobs. On the negative side, this trip came up too fast for my wife to join me. At least I get to keep the miles Lucky. We just dropped a couple billion on yet another M&A, and non-customer-facing travel has been suspended until further notice. Never mind that none of us are customer facing, and we had team summits planned throughout the year. 
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Jun 19, 2019 23:28
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kensei posted:Flying to California tomorrow on short notice to babysit an acquisition's circuit upgrade. I kinda like traveling for work sometimes because working for a huge financial institution, they don't skimp on hotels or meals, unlike previous jobs. On the negative side, this trip came up too fast for my wife to join me. At least I get to keep the miles God I hope we never end up with an acquisition far enough away to require a flight. Though the most recent one being 2 hours away is already annoying.
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Jun 19, 2019 23:52
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:Lucky. We just dropped a couple billion on yet another M&A, and non-customer-facing travel has been suspended until further notice. Never mind that none of us are customer facing, and we had team summits planned throughout the year. That stinks. sorry  stevewm posted:God I hope we never end up with an acquisition far enough away to require a flight. Though the most recent one being 2 hours away is already annoying. I 'own' California and Oregon, but will be going to AZ and NV again soon to help with other migrations. I should hit Alaska MVP this year!
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Jun 19, 2019 23:57
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A ticket came into the European Parliament: A new MEP is upset about the Parliament's MDM policy: https://twitter.com/zatzi/status/1141277679129374721
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Jun 20, 2019 01:14
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My job "gave" me a laptop and a desk and a chair it's a corrupt gravy train
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MJP posted:Indian English is a wonderful etymology thing, because it gives you sentences like "Horn OK Please" and they have actual true meaning despite looking like word salad Prepone it.
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Jun 20, 2019 16:48
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 ? I've been asked if I'm interested in taking a applications support specialist role in my company, still IT but a different manager. I've been here 4 years and about 6 months ago started to say I wanted to move up from tier 1 support desk or move on which was met with a lot of we want you to do more let us get a role setup. There's been a lot of changes in IT that delayed it a bit. We'll see where then ends up (the role had been planned but the job doesn't exist HR side), I will be talking to the manager again Monday. I was originally worried he was poaching me from my current manager but he knows and supports me advancing my career
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Jun 20, 2019 18:43
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A ticket just came in: Please work with Bob to help him use Skype. Yikes.
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Jun 20, 2019 21:23
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cage-free egghead posted:A ticket just came in: Please work with Bob to help him use Skype. Plot twist: Bob doesn't even work for your company.
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Jun 20, 2019 21:28
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"I showed Bob how to google 'How To Use Skype' youtube videos." *Close Ticket*
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Jun 20, 2019 22:17
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PremiumSupport posted:"I showed Bob how to google 'How To Use Skype' youtube videos." *Close Ticket* Make sure you have in your calendar "Showing Bob Skype" from 1-4. Then go take a nap in a meeting room.
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Jun 20, 2019 22:24
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cage-free egghead posted:A ticket just came in: Please work with Bob to help him use Skype. Schedule a Skype meeting with Bob to show him the ropes. Then go take a nap because he won't figure out how to join and say Bob didn't show up when asked about it.
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Jun 21, 2019 00:39
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minusX posted:
That's awesome! Hooray for managers who encourage career development
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Jun 21, 2019 02:13
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Do the needful is an excellent phrase - it serves the purpose of saying “do whatever the gently caress I need you to do” in a saccharine tone so you don’t get the reputation as that rear end in a top hat.
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Mutar posted:Do the needful is an excellent phrase - it serves the purpose of saying “do whatever the gently caress I need you to do” in a saccharine tone so you don’t get the reputation as that rear end in a top hat. It also allows for someone with little or no technical understanding to still seem like they're giving useful orders.
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“Please advise” however can gently caress right off. There are infinitely many other ways to say it, especially multiple times in the same email
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