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Purr Objectives posted:Some horrible takes on this page Amazing self-ownage
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Jun 18, 2019 15:04
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Purr Objectives posted:Some horrible takes on this page 
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Jun 18, 2019 15:11
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Before more meltdowns start, I think the actual game looks incredibly fun and I'll definitely be buying it if it gets ported to Switch. It's just that specific theme song, over and over, and over... On the positive side again, I am absolutely in love with the 2D character portraits in that game, as they remind me of random Mario Bros art that was everywhere in the late 80s/early 90s. That poo poo is wonderful, which is why my Switch profile avatar is Toad in that style. Every Mario game should have that.
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Jun 18, 2019 15:21
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:It's just that specific theme song, over and over, and over...
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Jun 18, 2019 15:40
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Cicero posted:The songs vary based on theme and day/night, right? Night themes have lullaby versions of the day theme music, but 3D World doesn’t have night themes.
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Jun 18, 2019 15:50
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Some random YouTube account has leaked a very brief look at the hammer power up. https://youtu.be/SPSbIkpLvHg Looks underwhelming so far. Edit: that was a snippet from a larger review, found here: https://youtu.be/zOXlfrpUwmA That video may contain story mode spoilers. J-Spot fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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Jun 19, 2019 15:54
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I think that's a mock up, its barely animated and the character looks composited onto the level
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Jun 19, 2019 16:01
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That was footage snipped from a much larger review so it seems legit. I edited in the link to the original video in my last post.
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Jun 19, 2019 16:14
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Nintendo Life posted a video outlining all of the things 3D World is missing (and gains). It seems Fire Bros. are unique to 3D World. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmaJDMbjxEw
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Jun 19, 2019 19:02
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GI_Clutch posted:Nintendo Life posted a video outlining all of the things 3D World is missing (and gains). It seems Fire Bros. are unique to 3D World. I wonder if they'll add patches to change this. Obviously there's some stuff that wouldn't work outside 3D world but there's also plenty that would, and 3D world missing some really basic stuff like mushroom platforms is just weird. It seems like something that just comes down to them not having enough time to model all this stuff for each style, which I'd be totally fine with if they said they were gonna add some of it later. Mario Maker was really good with updates but I dunno how this one will go.
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Jun 19, 2019 22:48
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Some items like sawblades are so basic it's pretty crazy they aren't in
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Jun 19, 2019 22:49
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I didn't have a WiiU so I didn't personally play SMM1 but my impression is that for the most part the deletions will be annoying but not devastating when making like, a normal mario level. But losing oneways, bumpers, and tracks will be a complete dealbreaker when making crazy poo poo.
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Jun 19, 2019 22:52
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Question: How does the size of stages, both vertically and horizontally, compare to Mario Maker 1? Are they the same size or bigger? One thing I didn't like about Mario Maker 1 is that the max stage size didn't feel big enough too me. I always felt like I needed to put in a sub-zone to really wring out the potential of my levels. Which is fine in some cases, but sometimes I wanted to make a simpler level that was just a tiny bit longer. Breaking those up with sub-zones is kind of annoying.cheetah7071 posted:I didn't have a WiiU so I didn't personally play SMM1 but my impression is that for the most part the deletions will be annoying but not devastating when making like, a normal mario level. But losing oneways, bumpers, and tracks will be a complete dealbreaker when making crazy poo poo. Like the video says, its not a huge deal if you plan around it, but anything that limits your potential in a building game is always a problem. For example, say I want to make a level themed around ant troopers. Well, right off the bat I have to pick 3D world, which locks out a bunch of options that might paired well with my level either mechanically or thematically.
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Jun 19, 2019 22:56
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Same size as before horizontal. Vertical is slightly more area than horizontal. I think levels will feel a bit bigger due to not needing padding sections to "hide" parts of your level you don't want seen thanks to camera lock
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Jun 19, 2019 23:01
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3D world is weird as it looks like Nintendo doesn't want people to make gimmick stages- they want real stages only. No stacking of goombas and the removal of the made up platforms is just kind of odd otherwise.
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Jun 19, 2019 23:04
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There's only three real themes in the game anyway, so I don't know why you're speculating about this other theme that doesn't exist.
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Jun 19, 2019 23:06
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:3D world is weird as it looks like Nintendo doesn't want people to make gimmick stages- they want real stages only. No stacking of goombas and the removal of the made up platforms is just kind of odd otherwise. I think they just want it to be very distinct, since the old themes are going to be very similar to the previous game. Trust me, there are going to plenty of gimmick stages in 3d world.
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Jun 20, 2019 00:09
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Most of the GameXplain complaints I saw were nitpicking but I did see that pipe stacking was removed, which I don't like  It helped add interesting maze mechanics to levels that used it properly.On the annoying, but not a deal breaker side of things, 3D World has only one type of semisolid platform across all the themes.
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Jun 20, 2019 05:10
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3D World wasn't the SMB3 or SMW styles so I'm not sure why they ever expected me to give a poo poo
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Jun 20, 2019 05:21
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Argue posted:Most of the GameXplain complaints I saw were nitpicking but I did see that pipe stacking was removed, which I don't like The version where you use it to hide a vertical pipe under a horizontal one so it's nearly invisible was probably what they didn't like. One way pipes can probably still be achieved with contraptions
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Jun 20, 2019 05:58
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One way pipes should be an option when creating enterable pipes in the first place. Most pipes in actual Mario games are one way. It's weird making a traditional level and knowing that a player can enter a secret area through the exit pipe. You either have to stack pipes or use one way gates or something else which can just look janky.
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Jun 20, 2019 06:04
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One way pipes could be cool, but there's already a solution. Put the exit slightly off the ground. I think the only recourse then is POW blocks or a Parabuzzy.
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Jun 20, 2019 06:24
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That only solves when you want to prevent someone from re-entering a pipe, but stacking pipes also let you make it so that multiple entrance pipes lead to a single exit pipe.
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Jun 20, 2019 06:39
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Honestly, this "hammer power up" doesn't look like that big a deal to me. I'm assuming that fact I never played MM1 means I'm probably missing some ways to leverage it into interesting gameplay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPSbIkpLvHg Q_res fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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Jun 20, 2019 08:14
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I didn't realize that thwomps sent the seesaws flying, even when they're moving horizontally. We're going to get some crazy mechanical contraptions with this game...
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Jun 20, 2019 15:28
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NintendoLife posted videos of two cool levels they made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srJu6KXbgpI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1YDzxFv20E
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Jun 21, 2019 14:37
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I'm still not clear why 3D World is a separate gamestyle with many unique items and mechanics rather than a skin like the other games. Let us use glass pipes and Pom Pom in Mario 1 stages!
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Jun 21, 2019 15:03
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Mad Jaqk posted:I'm still not clear why 3D World is a separate gamestyle with many unique items and mechanics rather than a skin like the other games. Let us use glass pipes and Pom Pom in Mario 1 stages! One theory I've seen floating around is that it's because of 3D World actually having depth. Things that are easy to fake on a 2D plane get a little weirder in 3D. For example, all of the semi-solid platforms in 3D World are a flat background surface (like a fence) with what looks like a pair of monkey bars above it. This allows for a background, but with a surface to stand upon that could be passed through from below. Side note: there's only a single semi-solid per 3D World theme. Also, think of items moving along a track. In 2D, it's easy enough to deal with items passing by each other. One is just displayed in front of the other. But what do you do in 3D World? Do platforms, blocks, enemies, etc. just clip through each other? That would look pretty janky. So, while 3D World itself had tracks, it would look weird in the 2.5D mode in Mario Maker, so they likely got cut.
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Jun 21, 2019 15:18
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The Kins posted:NintendoLife posted videos of two cool levels they made: that boss rush level (first video) is really cool
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Jun 21, 2019 15:19
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GI_Clutch posted:One theory I've seen floating around is that it's because of 3D World actually having depth. Things that are easy to fake on a 2D plane get a little weirder in 3D. For example, all of the semi-solid platforms in 3D World are a flat background surface (like a fence) with what looks like a pair of monkey bars above it. This allows for a background, but with a surface to stand upon that could be passed through from below. Side note: there's only a single semi-solid per 3D World theme. Also, the 3D World theme has enemies that attack from the foreground and background (Banzai Bills, Meowser, Charvaarghs). I'm sure most of the other elements could be implemented in all game styles, but it's probably better to have more than just a few unique things in 3D World style.
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Jun 21, 2019 15:34
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Why no intersecting clear pipes though?
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Jun 21, 2019 15:53
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Also, it kind of really opens the door for (and prepares players to understand) when they add in even more different gameplay styles. Like Super Mario Bros 2 
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Jun 21, 2019 16:23
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Yeah my take is that at least part of the justification was that as the number of items grow, implementing everything in every style becomes more and more of a chore. Doing it for the first time in DLC would get people up in arms about paying for something that doesn't have tracks or whatever, but if it's established ahead of time it softens the blow
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Jun 21, 2019 16:56
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One week! Can't wait to spend lots of next weekend on this.
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Jun 21, 2019 17:41
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Has there been any evidence that we can make tracks invisible this time around? It was always jarring to see things like enemies and objects travel back and fourth on them while the tracks are right there in white against the background. It would make for cleaner level design if we had the option to hide them.
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Jun 21, 2019 17:51
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I don't see why they couldn't do that, as those blocks that you jump on to make more blocks come out already have a mechanic that makes the final shape invisible when you jump into the level.
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Jun 21, 2019 18:02
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I think invisible tracks would lead to some terrible levels. They are visible because it's information that is important to know
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Jun 21, 2019 18:06
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I'm very excited for comments to be available again so I can yell at people for not putting checkpoints in their levels. A lot of people still leave them out of their MM1 levels and I don't know if they're making dumb decisions or they just don't realize they can shake the arrow.
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Jun 21, 2019 18:06
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GreatGreen posted:Has there been any evidence that we can make tracks invisible this time around? It was always jarring to see things like enemies and objects travel back and fourth on them while the tracks are right there in white against the background. People speculated as much because there was a brief clip of Mario being chased by a ring of ghosts without a track, but I suspect that was a nighttime effect, not an invisible track.
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Jun 21, 2019 18:14
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