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Vermain posted:A large part of it is simply that assassins are designed to be at their strongest in the early-mid game where they can snowball advantages to gain an overwhelming offensive lead over their opponent. Blue Kayn has significant ramp-up time compared to other jungle assassins and is dependent on only ganking very specific lanes if he doesn't want to lengthen that ramp-up time further. I've absolutely seen Blue Kayns pop off before, but it's such a gigantic pain in the rear end to make it work compared to playing Kha'Zix or whatever. The other side of this is that Blue Kayn, as someone who plays Kayn, is possibly the strongest late game assassin from a raw damage perspective, and can assassinate 3 champs in the time it might take Zed to assassinate one. Shadow Assassin isn’t just more raw damage then Rhaast, it’s excessively more damage, something like an increase of 50% against non-tanks. He also is way more mobile after the changes to shadow walk in SA form. Red is the safer choice in almost every game, but in the games where Blue is good Blue is unbeatable oppressive. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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pog boyfriend posted:no, that lane sounds really weak actually. kill lanes usually have hyper aggressive early game all in champions or nonstop lockdown, or a bit of both. So Blitz/Leo with basically any other DPS champion?
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Jun 20, 2019 02:58
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One of the premium kill lanes in my experience has been jarvan Leona
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Kill lanes are usually best with a champ who will just run away with the game if they get fed early, so the likes of Draven, Vayne etc. Though even Ashe can make it work because an Ashe with an early BF Sword will just end the lane. Bot lane Vel'koz is another irritating one, though that works better as a poke support I think.
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:One of the premium kill lanes in my experience has been jarvan Leona njsykora posted:Kill lanes are usually best with a champ who will just run away with the game if they get fed early, so the likes of Draven, Vayne etc. Though even Ashe can make it work because an Ashe with an early BF Sword will just end the lane. Bot lane Vel'koz is another irritating one, though that works better as a poke support I think. The Door Frame posted:So Blitz/Leo with basically any other DPS champion? jarvan leona is the most fun anyone can have in league of legends but not dps champion, burst champion. blitz/pantheon is a kill lane. when you get something like a draven or a vayne it is not really a kill lane as much as an aggressive lane - let it be known that a kill lane is a lane that does not care about lategame scaling because they have no intention of playing past 20 minutes.
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Jun 20, 2019 03:10
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Yeah, your job is to take over the early game so hard that you get a pre-20 surrender.
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J4/Leona is still the best kill lane. Though I am starting to wonder if Pyke could be used more
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kingcobweb posted:Gonna stream and hopefully talk about midgame stuff as Janna and hopefully not play awful?? https://twitch.tv/kingcobweb Was it good? Please archive your streams.
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Jun 20, 2019 07:56
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let it be known that my adc mundo win rate is now 100%. cannot be defeated.
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rabidsquid posted:let it be known that my adc mundo win rate is now 100%. cannot be defeated. I was up against a crit mundo ADC and thought 'piece of piss'. Couldn't force him out of lane cos ADC does negative damage early, especially against that passive. He took my tower at like 10 minutes and brutalised me. It was demoralizing
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Jun 20, 2019 09:26
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Well, here are two videos. Even rewatching the games I can see the badness. Anyway: A win. A loss.
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Cavelcade posted:Well, here are two videos. Even rewatching the games I can see the badness. Anyway: Game 1: You should be leaving base at 00:15 and moving to a chokepoint to cover vs invades every game to avoid getting level 1 cheesed. At 1:47 you use W on the enemy support instead of yourself, even though you've taken ~ 60 damage at that point. As the Pyke is moving away, the wave doesn't bounce back and heal you. In cases like that, you're better off casting W on yourself for the instant bounce to Pyke, as you would have gotten both the heal and the damage off the same cast. You stand still a lot. Never stop moving, ever. Even if it's completely safe to be standing still, constant moving (and direction changes) is a good habit to learn. When you go in for a W trade, try to throw in an auto too. They're about the same range and you can do both with very little extra time invested. The Ignite at 2:30 is real bad but I assume you know this. He's way too closer to tower to kill. Try to match your ADC's 'height' in lane as much as possible. If they're pushed up, push up to a similar degree. If they're dropping back, drop back to a similar degree. This way you avoid a Pyke engage where one of you gets caught out and the other one can't immediately retaliate. Don't use bubble to poke vs a Pyke lane, especially not before level 6. If it misses, it gives him a window to engage afterwards, where you have no hard CC:
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Jun 20, 2019 12:47
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some tft thoughts:
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Jun 20, 2019 13:39
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Is a TFT match any shorter than Underlords or Auto Chess? I like the game in theory, but gently caress spending 30+ minutes per match on something which is mostly luck based.
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Gunder posted:Is a TFT match any shorter than Underlords or Auto Chess? I like the game in theory, but gently caress spending 30+ minutes per match on something which is mostly luck based. From watching streams it seems like average game time is around 20-25m or so.
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Gunder posted:Is a TFT match any shorter than Underlords or Auto Chess? I like the game in theory, but gently caress spending 30+ minutes per match on something which is mostly luck based. tft is not mostly luck based. there is variance, and the items are a little too strong for rng, but the games are not mostly luck based. i was consistently doing well
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Jun 20, 2019 14:40
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Is Teamfight Tactics a WIP title or are they seriously going to stick with that?
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Jun 20, 2019 17:37
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They intentionally named their main game LOL what do you think?
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Jun 20, 2019 17:42
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it actually stands for twisted fate (and) teemo
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Jun 20, 2019 17:43
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I’m surprised they just didn’t go with TIT considering who the company is.
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nobody plays illaoi so why would they name a game mode after tryndamere illaoi teemo. failed game mode. bad optics.
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pog boyfriend posted:some tft thoughts: my thoughts: let me on the PBE you bastards
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Sexpansion posted:my thoughts: let me on the PBE you bastards Really excited to give this game a shot when I get on the PBE in... 16 hours
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Jun 21, 2019 02:17
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I logged in, someone missed their ready check, and it turns out it doesn't properly put you back into queue after that happens, so
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I am trying to learn a tanky or bruiser top right now, so I can branch out of perma-supporthood. I know Taric pretty well, but he's more of a support and he can't cs for poo poo. Should I go with Garen? Jax?
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The Dregs posted:I am trying to learn a tanky or bruiser top right now, so I can branch out of perma-supporthood. I know Taric pretty well, but he's more of a support. Should I go with Garen? Jax? Poppy was my first top laner and I still recommend people learn her. She's great in the meta right now with so many dashy fucks around and everyone underestimates her damage so you can burst people and watch them rage.
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Jun 21, 2019 12:41
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Oh Yeah. Poppy. I have tried her. I am SO BAD with her, but she is insanely fun. I'll give it a try
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The Dregs posted:I am trying to learn a tanky or bruiser top right now, so I can branch out of perma-supporthood. I know Taric pretty well, but he's more of a support and he can't cs for poo poo. Should I go with Garen? Jax? Garen is a safe top laner that has simple mechanics and is great for learning macroplay with. He has a lot of matchups that result in you defaulting to farming until level six or waiting for jungle assistance before going in but it's incredibly satisfying to drop your ultimate on someone
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curiousCat posted:I logged in, someone missed their ready check, and it turns out it doesn't properly put you back into queue after that happens, so lol yeah that happened to me too. I think I'm gonna wait for it to hit live if someone can effectively kick 7 people off of the pbe by declining a TFT queue
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The Dregs posted:I am trying to learn a tanky or bruiser top right now, so I can branch out of perma-supporthood. I know Taric pretty well, but he's more of a support and he can't cs for poo poo. Should I go with Garen? Jax? “tanky or bruiser top” is virtually all of them, are you looking to play aggressively, defensively, or passively? if its the latter just ignore everything and slam pick nasus. for aggressive play i recommend garen, olaf or renekton, and for defensive play something like a shen or a sion
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The Dregs posted:I am trying to learn a tanky or bruiser top right now, so I can branch out of perma-supporthood. I know Taric pretty well, but he's more of a support and he can't cs for poo poo. Should I go with Garen? Jax? Everyone's suggestions are spot on. I personally like Sion because even if you have a bad start you have enough CC that you'll always be useful to your team and the extra health you earn from his shields passive means you'll eventually scale up the longer the game goes on.
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pog boyfriend posted:“tanky or bruiser top” is virtually all of them, are you looking to play aggressively, defensively, or passively? if its the latter just ignore everything and slam pick nasus. for aggressive play i recommend garen, olaf or renekton, and for defensive play something like a shen or a sion I just wanted to weed out some of the mage tops like Lulu or Kennen. I tried Poppy, and I just am not good with her. I am gonna go Garen. I don't own Olaf or Renekton, I may look into picking one of them up.
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I like Trundle  But Poppy is amazing, even if you play her poorly, she has good CC for such a mobile tank, with the added bonus of negating blinks or dashes at the same time she gains movement speed. Sion, Illoai, Darius, and Mundo are great face tanks that can do a surprising amount of damage if you can bait out your enemy Fiora is also a good pick, but she's much more bruiser than tank
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Go with your original taric top choice You end up either trolling their team or trolling your own. Its 50/50 really
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Jun 21, 2019 14:23
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If you really want to try someone different learn Maokai, he’s about due for a comeback soon.
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Jun 21, 2019 14:34
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if you just want a wall of hp and a shitload of cc its definitely hard to go wrong with sion. he's insanely easy, fairly cheap to buy since he was one of the really old champs who got reworked, and his trading pattern is pretty straightforward. plus if you decide to just farm you can use his ult as a poor man's tp.
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The Dregs posted:I just wanted to weed out some of the mage tops like Lulu or Kennen. I tried Poppy, and I just am not good with her. I am gonna go Garen. I don't own Olaf or Renekton, I may look into picking one of them up. Lulu top isn't a mage, she's a sparkly machine gun of fiery death  .
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The Door Frame posted:Fiora is also a good pick, but she's much more bruiser than tank fiora is a melee adc The Dregs posted:I just wanted to weed out some of the mage tops like Lulu or Kennen. I tried Poppy, and I just am not good with her. I am gonna go Garen. I don't own Olaf or Renekton, I may look into picking one of them up. imagine not wanting to play lulu top. absolutely disgusting
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Jun 21, 2019 14:55
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Nah. I love Lulu. I just already main her and I wanted to learn a new champ.
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TFT is fun. Was surprised how even though it felt like I understood how to play from watching streamers I really didn't. Pro-tip: if you play lol with attack move on left click you want to remove that setting before playing TFT.
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