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I hope this is the right place to post this. Can someone in this thread who knows about this stuff help me with a "kinship terms" question? My mom has a sister, R. R and her husband, C, are my aunt and uncle. C has a sister, E. E and her husband M have a son, A. So A has an aunt and uncle (R and C) who are also my aunt and uncle. What do you call the relationship between A and me?
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A is your aunt's sister-in-law's son. I suppose you might say you were cousins-in-law, but I've never seen that term used.
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Apr 24, 2019 21:54
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Part 2 of 3 done, except for some tables that I put off till later!! only 157 images left lmao
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Apr 28, 2019 21:59
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God dammit gedmatch, way to slip right down that slippery slope.quote:On Nov 17, 2018, a 71 year old church organist was violently attacked while practicing alone in her church.
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May 15, 2019 20:00
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Jeez, they just can't help themselves. Yeah, wonder what the EU commission says to that! Transcription status: 80-some images left of my idiotic project, plus a ton of tables that I've put off. He really likes making tables, this guy. Currently comes out to 170 pages (including table of contests and stuff). Will probably be ~250 pages when all is said and done. Looking into bringing a plate of glass to the archives to take photos of some handdrawn maps that were folded up and stuck between the pages, as my current photos aren't worth reproducing. Should be allowed, as far as I can tell.
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May 19, 2019 17:27
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Can I get one of you guys to check out a thing on hathitrust for me? https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.ah67vf -- should be "Kirkehistoriske Samlinger" series 3 issue 5 (3. række 5. bind). For some reason it's not available in Denmark but some other issues are. There's a citation in the manuscript where I can't read the page number (it might be 245 or 285 but I am not sure, it's all inkblotted to hell). The cite is attached to a sentence that says Simon Pedersen Hoff or Hof became rector and lector of theology in Trondheim (Trondhjem, Trondhiem) and died 1708. I'd appreciate it if you could check it out and give me the correct page number. Should be doable even if you don't speak Danish by checking/searching for the name/place/year.
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May 21, 2019 16:09
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Krankenstyle posted:Can I get one of you guys to check out a thing on hathitrust for me? There’s a footnote on p. 245 that mentions that name. I’ll try to transcribe it a little later since I’m on my phone right now.
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May 21, 2019 16:32
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Here we go:quote:Se Tillæg Nr. 18. Blandt dem, hvis Arvelodder Th. Bang havde bestyret, var Simon Pedersen Hoff, sikkert en Søn af Fynboen Peder Simonsen Hoff, der døde som Præst i Blidstrup i Nordsjæland. Simon Hoff blev 1653 Student fra Frederiksborg Skole og var siden Lærer for Bangs Børn og tillige hans Amanuensis. Den 12 Dcbr. 1658 anbefalede Bang ham som «en lærd og fin Karl» til at blive Konrektor i Ribe. Dette Embede opnaaede han dog ikke. Derimod blev han Rektor og siden Lector theol. i Trondhjem, i hvilken Stilling han døde i en høj Alder 1708 (se mit Skrift, Studenternes Deltagelse i Kbhvns. Forsvar, S. 277, og. Nyt hist. Tiddskrift. VI, 542). quoted from Kirkehistoriske samlinger / udgivne af selskabet for Danmarks kirkehistorie, tredie række, femte bind, by Holker Fr. Rørdam, Kjøbenhavn, I Komission Hos Univ. Boghandl. G. E. C. Gad., Thieles Bogtrykkeri, 1884–86 page 245, permalink <https://hdl.handle.net/2027/hvd.ah67vf?urlappend=%3Bseq=253>, accessed 21 May 2019 This is in a chapter/article entitled “Professor Dr. Thomas Bangs Levned” by Holger Fr. Rørdam, pp. 193–299 In addition, the book has an annotation that reads: “Version: 2018-09-25 14:57 UTC”
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May 21, 2019 17:08
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13 million Holocaust records now online! You can search for the names of victims of Nazi persecution in our portal. However, please remember that this is not a full search, because many of the documents held in the Arolsen Archives are not yet accessible in the online archive.
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May 21, 2019 17:32
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Here we go: Sweet, thanks, that's exactly what I needed 
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May 21, 2019 17:33
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Well here's a nice little presentation on how to cite sources for newbies. From Ancestry.
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May 23, 2019 16:29
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Citing sources is so incredibly important. I can't count how many times I've come across some unsourced data point in my early research & have had to spend hours or days redoing everything about that person from ground up. It'll be even harder for some future genealogist looking at your stuff, so get to it!
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May 23, 2019 17:51
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There’s a reason I posted what I did. I don’t know what Krankenhaus is using as a citation format but best to give them everything I can. Of course Krankenhaus SHOULD be citing my excerpt as a forum post rather than the underlying material but... The least I can do is give the information for anyone who comes looking. Also, can I suggest telling the Internet Archive to archive any webpage you’re planning on citing with the Save Page Now feature?
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May 23, 2019 18:11
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ComradeCosmobot posted:There’s a reason I posted what I did. I don’t know what Krankenhaus is using as a citation format but best to give them everything I can. Oh that was absolutely not aimed at you CC. I just came across it and thought it was a nice resource, especially since I tend to be haphazard about my sourcing and just write everything down I can possibly find about the source so I can 'clean it up later.'
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May 23, 2019 18:44
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Oracle posted:Oh that was absolutely not aimed at you CC. I just came across it and thought it was a nice resource, especially since I tend to be haphazard about my sourcing and just write everything down I can possibly find about the source so I can 'clean it up later.' No offense taken! Was just trying to illustrate how important citation is by pointing to something just a few posts up. My own personal strategy is to jot down everything like you do, but I try to clean it up according to the style established by the incredible handbook Evidence Explained, but it sometimes gets a bit pedantic when I’m entering data into GRAMPS. I do wish software developers would spend some time on citation UIs so it doesn’t feel so tedious, since it seems equally bad across all platforms.
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May 23, 2019 18:55
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Yeah tbh I'm pretty bad at actually formatting my citations in my database — I don't use the gedcom source structure because it's a pain in the rear end, I just attach text notes  but I try to provide enough info that it should be possible to find the original source anyway.When I write something up for sharing, I'm pretty strict about the formatting & including all the relevant fields (though I don't cite parish registers for every baptism/marriage/burial/etc unless there is something special that means you need more than date+location to find the entry). Also: 46 images left to transcribe (plus the tables) Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 14:22 on May 24, 2019 |
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May 24, 2019 14:02
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I don't know if this was mentioned here, but Icelandic records are available here: http://skjalaskrar.skjalasafn.is I don't think the site is available in English, but Prestþjónustubækur (in selection box to the right) are parish registers. Under Sía niðurstöður, you can filter by title/period/creator/parish respectively. I may be able to help translating the images, as the priests were educated in Denmark and often wrote in Danish. Faroese Islands here: http://history.fo/ Church records under Kirkjubøkur, which are divided into pastorates & then periods. These I can definitely translate as I have spent a lot of time with them and they're entirely in Danish. Quality isn't very good, but I am told that they're in the process of photographing them all from the bottom up. Also, 20 images left 
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May 31, 2019 09:46
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All images processed Now working through TODOs (78 left)
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50 TODOs left starting to hate latex tables with a passion
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Jun 9, 2019 14:42
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Danish Jewish Museum has created a searchable database based on Swedish registrations of those Jews who escaped to Sweden. I've already found a couple I was looking for. Good detailed info in the scanned PDFs. I can translate if anyone wants. https://safe-haven.dk/?uid=1&L=1 e: Persons born after 1930 are excluded due to GDPR Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jun 11, 2019 |
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Jun 11, 2019 17:08
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Has anyone had any luck finding records on family members in Poland or the Ukraine in the early to mid 19th century? Things get dicey enough in the US in the 1850s...
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Jun 17, 2019 18:23
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Have you tried https://szukajwarchiwach.pl ? See also: http://www.lostshoebox.com/poland/online-records/
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Jun 17, 2019 21:21
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Yeah depending on where in Poland you’re looking for there are quite a few church books out there. Problem is large swaths of both were part of both Prussia (or Austria) and Russia depending on when and where you’re looking, so you may need to look in places you don’t expect. I know the archives in Stettin have quite a few records going back that far for some areas but you have to know the Polish and German/Russian names of the various areas. Rootsweb has some help of where to look. I’ve had some success with Facebook groups for the specific areas you’re looking for (just search for the geographic names of whatever towns or vovoidships you’re looking for + genealogy). Keep in mind a lot of them are closed to deter spammers so you may have to answer a few questions and apply to get in. A list of names in Polish and their German equivalents. Another helpful site for beginners Familysearch is always a good stop Keep in mind a lot of records were destroyed in WWII and a lot are still unavailable online. If you’re looking for evangelical records all those churches are now likely Catholic.
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Krankenstyle posted:Have you tried https://szukajwarchiwach.pl ? No I hadn't, thanks for that.
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Jun 20, 2019 13:27
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Still working through my TODOs. Some 40 now, but they're smaller (like instead of "TODO table" it's "TODO fix this cell/row"). Also working on figuring out why an ancestor of mine (Niels Ibsen below) had money in his estate from seemingly unrelated people (the halfbrothers next to him). My theory, shown with the dotted line, is that they were cousins through their mothers, but I haven't been able to find her name in the sources (again the burnt church registers) so it's proving to be a tough nut to crack.  Also God-man Angel-son is a pretty intense name lol
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Jun 20, 2019 16:29
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I apparently have an ancestor named Smallhope Biggs, which is so amazing that I want to legally change my name to that.
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Jun 20, 2019 20:57
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I have a set of great grandparents named Max and Minnie.
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Jun 20, 2019 21:10
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Grandmother's name was Jemina. Great-grandmother's was Beulah. They were the first (and last) of their names for obvious reasons.
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Jun 20, 2019 22:15
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Great-great uncle Gibson Roper, which would be a fantastic name even if I didn't have the maturity of a 12 year old
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Jun 21, 2019 08:56
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There's a handful of guys in the 16th-18th centuries in and around my hometown named Icewolf  but so far I haven't found any connection 
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Krankenstyle posted:Still working through my TODOs. Some 40 now, but they're smaller (like instead of "TODO table" it's "TODO fix this cell/row"). What's the six-dot symbol, life span? In that case, the death year of Ingel Andersen seems wrong, or maybe the birth years of Gudmand Ingelsen and Kristine? Is Jep 10 years younger than his father in law? Is Gudmand the younger only *checks graph* 19 years younger than his grandfather? Edit: I guess I'll take my answer in 6 hours, haha. NFX fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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Jun 21, 2019 16:20
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Sorry  those are supposed to flowers for floruit (attested in sources) for the ones where I have no indication of birth/death at all; they were presumably born at least 20-25 years before the earlier date tho.
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21 TODOs left, only 2 of them tables  Clocking in at 250 pages, probably gonna be close to 300 when including the maps and my own appendixes
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The National Archives search might be the worst thing anyone has ever developed. Also, Does anyone have a strategy for reading very messy microfilm photographs of cursive, handwritten documents? Naffer fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jun 26, 2019 |
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Jun 26, 2019 03:38
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Naffer posted:The National Archives search might be the worst thing anyone has ever developed. I go through the lines multiple times, each time adding what letters/words I can to my transcription. At first it might only be a few, but as more begin to make sense, the context will help decipher yet more. Also, lots of practice. When I started out, I had a sheet with typical examples of letters printed out near me so I could compare. Another trick is seeing if a tricky letter is elsewhere in the document; perhaps it's easier to figure out there, or again the context might help... Feel free to post some examples and we can try and help you along
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Also, I found out that a relative was in the US in the 1850s. In December 1860, he wrote the ministry of the interior here (my translation):quote:For a duration of 8 years I have been away from my birth country Denmark, and in this time I have resided in the North American States; this nation of industry and invention. During my stay there I have acquainted myself with many inventions of interest to industry, that are not yet known here on the continent; among other things I manufacture a Washing Apparatus for washing linnen, that by its simple contruction yet great convenience would inspire imitations if I heedlessly introduced it commercially. I therefore humbly permit myself to petition the ministry that I may be granted an exclusive patent on this washing apparatus for a period of 5 years. Along with the petition was a product sample and 3 recommendations from men whose wives had tried the apparatus and found it very convenient. The ministry checked the novelty with the Polytechnic College, but as it turned out that "the washing apparatus on which the patent is petitioned consists of a ridged plate of sheet metal", for which patents had already been granted years prior & indeed the population already used such apparatuses "even in the countryside", the application was denied lol But I wonder, can I figure out where he was in America? I don't know when he arrived home, but he does not appear to be in the 1855 & 1860 censuses of Denmark (both on February 2). How good are the corresponding US censuses as sources?
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Krankenstyle posted:Also, I found out that a relative was in the US in the 1850s. In December 1860, he wrote the ministry of the interior here (my translation): Pretty good. Let me know his name and anything at all you might know (when he left, when he arrived, port of arrival if known, any information on the letter that might indicate where he was) I'll see what I can find (no promises for any Jan Janssens).
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I was going back over my wife's French Canadian family tree and since the last time I looked Ancestry now has a bunch of records like this: The link genealogy.umontreal.ca doesn't appear to work. Does anyone know what this is? It's remarkably detailed and pushes her earliest ancestor all the way back to France. But since it's the only source I can find I have no idea whether it's legitimate. There are entries like this for 7 or 8 generations. On another family line a random lady attached a note to one of my 17th century ancestors that they were the paternal great grandfather of President James A. Garfield. Unless that ancestor had an unknown 12th child I think she's full of poo poo. It's just a real odd thing to post in other people's family tree data. Garfield's family tree is pretty well documented as any President's would be and we're not in there. Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jun 26, 2019 |
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There's a lot of crappy genealogist. There's one lady who keeps screwing with my 3rd great grandfather on familysearch and removing factually correct information regarding his wife. I go back and fix it. So much BS out there from folks it makes it hard to trust other sources.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I was going back over my wife's French Canadian family tree and since the last time I looked Ancestry now has a bunch of records like this: quote:In 1966, the Programme de recherche en démographie historique (PRDH, Research Programme in Historical Demography) at the Université de Montréal undertook the exhaustive reconstruction of the population of Quebec from the beginnings of French colonization in the seventeenth century. This objective has been realized in the form of a computerized population register, composed of biographical files on all individuals of European ancestry who lived in the St. Lawrence Valley. The file for each individual gives the date and place of birth, marriage(s), and death, as well as family and conjugal ties with other individuals. This basic information is complemented by various socio-demographic characteristics drawn from documents: socio-professional status and occupation, ability to sign his or her name, place of residence, and, for immigrants, place of origin
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