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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't WILD WILD WEST characters called something Kid always villains?

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Jerry Cotton posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't WILD WILD WEST characters called something Kid always villains?

Things I just realised: this scrub has never seen Blazing Saddles

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

Add me to the list of just learning this today.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Things I just realised: this scrub has never seen Blazing Saddles

If I did it was 30 years agoo.

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

LadyPictureShow posted:

I learned today 'Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid' is not a cowboy movie.

I never saw it, and from the title I just always assumed it was about the real guys. :downs:

E: My brother also assumed it was a cowboy movie until I told him what I learned

I have no idea what you're trying to say

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

I've heard of "garbanzo beans" but never seen them on a menu or for sale anywhere. I just found out that's because it's just another term for chickpeas.

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


Hyperlynx posted:

I've heard of "garbanzo beans" but never seen them on a menu or for sale anywhere. I just found out that's because it's just another term for chickpeas.
Throw "ceci beans" into the mix, too, if you have an Italian community of any size in your area.

eta: It's not, like, some super weird foreign term; it's right there on the Progresso brand can of chickpeas.

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Hyperlynx posted:

I've heard of "garbanzo beans" but never seen them on a menu or for sale anywhere. I just found out that's because it's just another term for chickpeas.

What's the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea? I've never paid $40 to have a garbanzo bean on my face

Hyperlynx
Sep 13, 2015

Hirayuki posted:

Throw "ceci beans" into the mix, too, if you have an Italian community of any size in your area.

eta: It's not, like, some super weird foreign term; it's right there on the Progresso brand can of chickpeas.



The brand I buy has one side of the can in English, and the other in Italian with, indeed, "Ceci" on it.

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

The Roman stateman Cicero is named after the latin word for chickpea, cicer.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
Scissors derive from the same word, as they were originally designed for cutting chick peas in half.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

christmas boots posted:

Scissors derive from the same word, as they were originally designed for cutting chick peas in half.

They have the same root as cesarean, which means to cut or shear. Nothing to do with cici.

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
I just figured out that Cici’s Pizza is called that because it’s named after Cicero, which means “to cut or slice,” and you slice pizza.

Mind = blown.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider

Captain Monkey posted:

They have the same root as cesarean, which means to cut or shear. Nothing to do with cici.

I was going to respond by doubling-down harder on my bullshit etymology, but in the process of my research it turns out that the Cicero - chickpea connection was not, as I assumed, a joke and in fact is entirely true and in keeping with Roman surname traditions.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

christmas boots posted:

I was going to respond by doubling-down harder on my bullshit etymology, but in the process of my research it turns out that the Cicero - chickpea connection was not, as I assumed, a joke and in fact is entirely true and in keeping with Roman surname traditions.

I googled it too to make sure I wasn't missing a joke.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

It was probably last year that I found out chickpeas are what we call kikherne (herne being the word for pea).

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Decrepus posted:

The game of "oof"

Not sure what that means. I'd also buy the trail bicycle and a litter of kittens

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Memento posted:

What's the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea? I've never paid $40 to have a garbanzo bean on my face

lol

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Jerry Cotton posted:

It was probably last year that I found out chickpeas are what we call kikherne (herne being the word for pea).

Same in Danish (kikært). The Germanic word for peas (de. Erbsen, da. ærter, etc) is actually hypothesised to be from the pre-Germanic substrate, ie. the languages spoken in northern Europe prior to the Indo-European migration. See for example G. Kroonen, Non-Indo-European root nouns in Germanic: evidence in support of the Agricultural Substrate Hypothesis, 2012.

EdwardSwifferhands
Apr 27, 2008

I will probably lick whatever you put in front of me.
The gospel singer CeCe Winans was hatched from a chickpea.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Cicero was pronounced Kickero

E:
Keeckero?

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Slush Garbo
Nov 20, 2007

FALSE SLACK
is
BETTER
than
NO SLACK
Cheechero?

(my Italian family says 'chee chee bean')

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Hugh Malone posted:

Cheechero?

(my Italian family says 'chee chee bean')

Latin c was only ever pronounced k. Kik-er-oh. Likewise Caesar is pronounced "Kaiser" hence that being a term for a leader in German.

The reason for the confusion is because terminal sigma, ς, looks like a c but, being sigma, is pronounced s. This is why Cyrillic's C is a Latin S. Hence the Soviet Union being the CC (Sovietskiy Soyuz) and USSR the CCCP (Soyuz Soviets Socialist Respubliks, to spell it like a heathen who can't speak Russian). P being R because of rho.

Slush Garbo
Nov 20, 2007

FALSE SLACK
is
BETTER
than
NO SLACK
a quick Google indicates that's how the church pronunced Cicero, after the classical period, which would explain the 'chee chee' bean pronunciation.


today I just figured out not to participate in language derails itt

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Tesseraction posted:

Latin c was only ever pronounced k. Kik-er-oh. Likewise Caesar is pronounced "Kaiser" hence that being a term for a leader in German.

The reason for the confusion is because terminal sigma, ς, looks like a c but, being sigma, is pronounced s.

That is not by any stretch of the imagination "the reason for the confusion".

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

Tesseraction posted:

Latin c was only ever pronounced k. Kik-er-oh. Likewise Caesar is pronounced "Kaiser" hence that being a term for a leader in German.

The reason for the confusion is because terminal sigma, ς, looks like a c but, being sigma, is pronounced s. This is why Cyrillic's C is a Latin S. Hence the Soviet Union being the CC (Sovietskiy Soyuz) and USSR the CCCP (Soyuz Soviets Socialist Respubliks, to spell it like a heathen who can't speak Russian). P being R because of rho.

There's also an interesting theory about how Etruscans spoke revolving around the letter "C".

Linguists believe that there was little or no difference between how they pronounced the K sound and the hard G sound. They believe this because when the Romans adopted the Greek alphabet from the Etruscans and transformed it into the Latin alphabet, they converted Gamma into C (pronounced K) and created a separate new letter "G" (which is just a crossed C, if you think about it) for the consonant sound that Gamma used to provide.

The Romans also kept K around for writing Greek loan words, for some reason.

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Memento posted:

What's the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea? I've never paid $40 to have a garbanzo bean on my face
:vince:

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

The chickpea tape is real

knife_of_justice
Aug 12, 2007

103 and still BITCHIN'

christmas boots posted:

I was going to respond by doubling-down harder on my bullshit etymology, but in the process of my research it turns out that the Cicero - chickpea connection was not, as I assumed, a joke and in fact is entirely true and in keeping with Roman surname traditions.

Anyone with the name 'Fabian' is gonna lose their mind for a similar reason. The Romans loved their peas and beans!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Jerry Cotton posted:

That is not by any stretch of the imagination "the reason for the confusion".

Silence you heathen Finn.



Your country isn't even real. :argh:


Weembles posted:

There's also an interesting theory about how Etruscans spoke revolving around the letter "C".

Linguists believe that there was little or no difference between how they pronounced the K sound and the hard G sound. They believe this because when the Romans adopted the Greek alphabet from the Etruscans and transformed it into the Latin alphabet, they converted Gamma into C (pronounced K) and created a separate new letter "G" (which is just a crossed C, if you think about it) for the consonant sound that Gamma used to provide.

The Romans also kept K around for writing Greek loan words, for some reason.

This also makes sense given how Ankara was historically called Angora by the Romans, suggesting a kinda k-g hybrid.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Tesseraction posted:

Silence you heathen Finn.



Your country isn't even real. :argh:


If this confuses you, let me tell you about the Japanese language which is basically entirely based on understanding the context of what's being said because you can leave out like 90% of a sentence

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

extradite THIS! posted:

If this confuses you, let me tell you about the Japanese language which is basically entirely based on understanding the context of what's being said because you can leave out like 90% of a sentence

黑れ

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


I highly recommend The History of English podcast
The early episodes, which I'm slowly working my way through now, discuss the vowel shifts that have changed pronunciations of words across Indo-European languages and he also spends time discussing the Centum / Satem divide in PIE and subsequent languages.

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

extradite THIS! posted:

If this confuses you, let me tell you about the Japanese language which is basically entirely based on understanding the context of what's being said because you can leave out like 90% of a sentence

It can't be helped.

Leon Sumbitches
Mar 27, 2010

Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.





What's the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea?

President Donald Trump never allegedly paid to have several garbanzo beans on his face.

Allegedly.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Leon Sumbitches posted:

What's the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea?

President Donald Trump never allegedly paid to have several garbanzo beans on his face.

Allegedly.

That's really cool how you repackaged a joke from this very page.

Leon Sumbitches
Mar 27, 2010

Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.





Proteus Jones posted:

That's really cool how you repackaged a joke from this very page.

Eh, it's a version of the joke I've been telling for a while and I think it's a more funny than the other.

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
And a less funny version at that. Not even because it's political, it's just the delivery of it.

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


And the plural of "chickpea" is not "chickspea".

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SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Hirayuki posted:

And the plural of "chickpea" is not "chickspea".
Chickpiss is plural of chickpea

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