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happy cabbage posted:it would be nice if i was unblacklisted. vio detective extraordinaire decided i was a spy like 8 or 9 years ago even though I wasn't and had no loyalties beyond goonfleet vov. did you happen to live in alberta during that time period?
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Warmachine posted:Did the keynote also have a telling plan for how they're gonna unfuck themselves, or is EVE dying its final death? Eve has been dying since 2003, try to keep up. It would be interesting to see the number of accounts that go inactive over the same 90 day time period. I suspect the active player base is barely growing, or might even be shrinking. Is hard data like that available other than accounts logged in to TQ?
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Warmachine posted:Did the keynote also have a telling plan for how they're gonna unfuck themselves, or is EVE dying its final death? Not as much. And they didn't include data on the turnover on older accounts, which might be the more relevant number. And to be honest, I'm kind of afraid to hear the ideas they do have. TigerXtrm posted:Eve has been dying since 2003, try to keep up. what a good joke
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TigerXtrm posted:Eve has been dying since 2003, try to keep up. it hasn't, in fact it grew until 2012, and since that peak only half the players remain
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Rutibex posted:Yeah but I don't want to is the thing. I was lucky this time I didn't have much going on in 1DQ, but if I had been building a titan or something it would have ruined me. I don't want to have to worry about randomly getting booted and losing all of my services because space HR is riding some directors rear end about metrics. This was the second time it happened without any kind of warning. Makes me feel like the Imperium is just too big for me to have fun, I'm just a number not worth contacting before getting the boot. At first i felt a little bit bad for you but now i'm kinda sad you didnt lose a titan while in built. Whining about not being contacted and poo poo. I'm willing to bet there has been multiple pings on jabber about it but you seem to be going out of your way to not be aware. What did you expect, a personal phone call from Mittens?
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this guy is almost certainly a troll but the idea of throwing a fit about an activity purge, countered by the sole task of "staying connected to jabber and receiving pings" is pretty funny poo poo i haven't done anything that would have given me a pap link in over a year and i didn't get purged, and i know andromache wouldn't think twice about booting my rear end if it was deserved
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:this guy is almost certainly a troll but the idea of throwing a fit about an activity purge, countered by the sole task of "staying connected to jabber and receiving pings" is pretty funny I was caught in the purge too tbh. I bought a new pc 2 or 3 months ago and didnt reinstall jabber so its my bad. I dont think i put any serious time in eve in at least 6 months so its kinda expected. Those purges are actually great to renew my interest for a few months so i see it as a good thing. Just not sure i really want to get back into it right away to i might wait. Just wish i didnt lose access to GBS and helldump. This makes me think Atrum, if/when EVE eventually kicks the bucket, will there be a mad dash to fix the services so not everyone gets kicked? Any contigencies for this?
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It's really not hard at all to keep jabber running in the back ground. Plus you know friends
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Dalael posted:At first i felt a little bit bad for you but now i'm kinda sad you didnt lose a titan while in built. Thats what I mean, pangs on Jabber rather than an EVE mail or a PM. Like a memo from corporate HR posted to the bulletin board. Both times when I got purged the purger didn't even know who the hell I was, all they saw was a couple of metrics. Thats great if your into big organized battles and stuff, but its not the experience I'm looking for in EVE.
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Rutibex posted:Thats what I mean, pangs on Jabber rather than an EVE mail or a PM. Like a memo from corporate HR posted to the bulletin board. Both times when I got purged the purger didn't even know who the hell I was, all they saw was a couple of metrics. Thats great if your into big organized battles and stuff, but its not the experience I'm looking for in EVE. Then why join Goons? You should've known that as soon as you signed up the first time.
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Foehammer007 posted:Then why join Goons? You should've known that as soon as you signed up the first time. No one bothered me about this stupid poo poo when I was in Groon. We just tooled around Syndicate doing whatever. I joined Goonwaffe because I assumed it was the corp for posters on the SA forums
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Jun 23, 2019 18:25
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Oh no, i can't walk on this road anymore, there is a pebble in my way.
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Jun 23, 2019 18:33
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Seriously dude, the direkkktorate isn't paid for this poo poo and they go above and beyond to keep people informed generally. They don't ask for much, just have jabber installed. I'm willing to bet that if you simply had jabber installed/active, you wouldnt have been purged. Sounds to me like it was designed to purge the afk like me, and those who are in the coalition just for the easy isk. You're making a big deal out of nothing. You could have reapplied and spent 7 days loving around in high/lowsec or elsewhere messing with ppl in the mean time.
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Jun 23, 2019 18:35
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Being an ex-Groon member you should definitely know the differences between the two SA corps. Unless you joined Groon like last year or some poo poo.
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Jun 23, 2019 18:36
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Dear lord help me Dinin Dalael is dunking on a person
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orange juche posted:Dear lord help me Dinin Dalael is dunking on a person Next up: Deadtear logs in.
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Jun 23, 2019 18:41
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Rust Martialis posted:Next up: Deadtear logs in. Thats a step too far.
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Jun 23, 2019 18:43
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Dalael posted:
in this rutibex's case, it also worked as intended
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Jun 23, 2019 18:53
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Maybe he'll rejoin Groon and gently caress off
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I do applaud Atrum for (indirectly?) providing content, however.
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Dalael posted:This makes me think Atrum, if/when EVE eventually kicks the bucket, will there be a mad dash to fix the services so not everyone gets kicked? Any contigencies for this? Not really a "mad dash." There's one job that runs every few hours that compares a user's member group against their characters to verify they do, in fact, have at least one character in the Eve corporation corresponding to that member group. If it doesn't find a match, it drops you to the Member group which basically can't do anything except maybe helldump. It's the reason why you can't put all your characters in your altcorp, for example. That job used to not apply to Goonwaffe at all, but after the ESI purge and the multiple confirmed capital group spies that were caught in that cleanup, we decided to apply it to Goonwaffe. Stopping use of the "Vacationers" group was due to several separate incidents where toxic bittervets couldn't keep themselves from ruining it for everyone else. Everyone who has Vacationer status still has it, there's just no new Vacationers being made.
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just lol if you don't have a dedicated VM running bitlbee to goonfleet jabber so you can connect to your screened irssi/weechat sessions 24/7.
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Jun 23, 2019 19:56
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Tsed posted:just lol if you don't have a dedicated VM running bitlbee to goonfleet jabber so you can connect to your screened irssi/weechat sessions 24/7. I understood lol but that's about it
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can someone explain to me what all these init and other goon elements are doing in low sec near provi bloc? And also why Panfam are down here? There was supposed to be a cool and fun war between spectre fleet and provi bloc and now all the big dick null blocs are down here ruining everyone's good time
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Jun 23, 2019 19:59
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:ruining everyone's good time Op success!
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:can someone explain to me what all these init and other goon elements are doing in low sec near provi bloc? And also why Panfam are down here? There was supposed to be a cool and fun war between spectre fleet and provi bloc and now all the big dick null blocs are down here ruining everyone's good time How dare people looking for stuff to do find anything to do.
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i understand that's the perverse gon raison d'etre but it's not just you all
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:i understand that's the perverse gon raison d'etre but it's not just you all You asked for an explanation. In essence your entire argument is that you were having a nice 1v 1 fight in lowsec and other people dared to land on grid and engage I mean seriously wtf are you even trying to argue. How dare anyone third party? Only honourable space fights allowed?
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andromache posted:Not really a "mad dash." There's one job that runs every few hours that compares a user's member group against their characters to verify they do, in fact, have at least one character in the Eve corporation corresponding to that member group. If it doesn't find a match, it drops you to the Member group which basically can't do anything except maybe helldump. Member group seem to have no access at all.
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PST posted:You asked for an explanation. Well actually, according to space bushido...
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jeez, don't pay attention to this thread for a day and you get almost 200 new posts to read through
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Rutibex posted:No one bothered me about this stupid poo poo when I was in Groon. We just tooled around Syndicate doing whatever. That's the thing that's always gotten on my nerves, you always think the rules don't apply to you. The one time they sliiiiightly inconvenience you you proceed to basically blacklist yourself, it boggles the mind how but root finds a way You're actually the first I heard of this, so I totally have to have gotten purged too. Know what I'm going to do? Wait a drat week and sign back up, and then get immediately accepted when Aryth notices "oh, this was an idle dude". You managed to gently caress that up and now you got 80B of hisec isk, it's like watching someone burn tea
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Good Dumplings posted:That's the thing that's always gotten on my nerves, you always think the rules don't apply to you. The one time they sliiiiightly inconvenience you you proceed to basically blacklist yourself, it boggles the mind how but root finds a way 
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Rutibex posted:No one bothered me about this stupid poo poo when I was in Groon. We just tooled around Syndicate doing whatever. And your meltdown over the last 24 hours has proved what an incredibly lovely fit you actually are, what with you essentially not being in any way, shape or form participating in anything Goonwaffe related except for posting in this thread. Fuckety bye and stay in high sec pubbie
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:And your meltdown over the last 24 hours has proved what an incredibly lovely fit you actually are, what with you essentially not being in any way, shape or form participating in anything Goonwaffe related except for posting in this thread. Fuckety bye and stay in high sec pubbie i would argue his autistic meltdown proves how well he fits in 
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Good Dumplings posted:burn tea I didn't know that was a thing. ew.
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Kimsemus posted:i would argue his autistic meltdown proves how well he fits in it seems more toddler than autistic to me
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Kimsemus posted:i would argue his autistic meltdown proves how well he fits in My autistic 6 year old nephew has less dramatic meltdowns.
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Good Dumplings posted:That's the thing that's always gotten on my nerves, you always think the rules don't apply to you. The one time they sliiiiightly inconvenience you you proceed to basically blacklist yourself, it boggles the mind how but root finds a way Just to be clear, being randomly purged is not a slight inconvenience. I'm researching capital ship construction blueprints atm (in high sec thank god) so I can get into capital construction. If I was running capital ship construction jobs when my roles got pulled all of my industry jobs would be cancelled and I would lose billions of isk in materials. All of my market orders get hosed up too, and you have to pay tax upfront just to post market orders. I think purging people to make them pay attention or whatever is a really dumb policy, and I can't risk having that happen again if I get into bigger production. So I'm going to see what I can do in NPC 0.0, where no one owns the stations.
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Rutibex posted:Just to be clear, being randomly purged is not a slight inconvenience. I'm researching capital ship construction blueprints atm (in high sec thank god) so I can get into capital construction. If I was running capital ship construction jobs when my roles got pulled all of my industry jobs would be cancelled and I would lose billions of isk in materials. All of my market orders get hosed up too, and you have to pay tax upfront just to post market orders. Not even remotely how this works.
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