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Mischievous Mink posted:The very first page of this thread has people debating how to best cut off the heat for an old woman to make her leave and get a more profitable tenant. PostNouveau posted:Also, someone looking for advice on how to break Maryland's anti-Section 8 discrimination laws without getting caught. mao was wrong about sparrows but right about landlords
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I'm a great tenant. My landlords all love me until I've moved out because I make sure the place is spotless, get them to sign off on it, and then I check if they've protected my deposit. Then I let them know I'll be seeking compensation, because literally none of them have done so far. There's a lot of students around here so I presume they break the law in the hope their mostly first-time renters won't be familiar with the law, maybe? The only thing that's clear is the desire for a quick buck now outweighs any other idea. When I moved back to the UK I was on my own while my family took care of things on their end, and I found myself in one of those 'rooms above a shop' places where it turned out they made a habit of it. 3x deposit in compensation plus the original deposit for every contract in that place. There are now student-focused online resources for anyone thinking of, or possibly already renting from that company. I thought they were unique, but it turns out there's a lot of landlords at it. I'm lucky enough to have a good job, so what I make goes to a homelessness charity. Last time was Centrepoint, next time probably Shelter.org.uk, or maybe one of the shelters in the local area - nowhere near enough to balance the scales at all, but it's something to do in the meantime, isn't it? That's some free advice for any UK landlords here, you're welcome. Don't have too many sleepless nights over a 3x penalty plus forfeiture of the deposit in full, though. What you should be losing sleep over is that if you failed to protect the deposit in time you also now can't serve a Section 21 (reposession) notice until you've settled with the tenant 
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Taking a quick break to let some things get resolved. In the meantime, feel free to go over and poo poo up this monstrosity. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3885970
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The OP for the new thread is taking a little longer than I expected, so while I try to get that new one made, I'll permit this to continue. Keep in mind that half that with this six year old thread, half the people who have posted here don't anymore. Anyway, this is the rental property thread, for people who own rental property or are thinking about buying it. It's not the "how do I kick out these 'certain people'" thread, or the "can I turn off my tenant's utilities?" thread. It's also not the guillotine thread, or the abolish private property thread. People here just to troll in bad faith will get the same treatment as before, which is escalating probations.
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what's the plan for the new op and what will the new limits on discussion be? i gather that the new thread won't be about how to evict people with pesky laws getting in the way?TheLizard posted:I'm moving soon and don't want to sell my place, so I'm going to be a landlord soon enough. DC area; my realtor takes the first month rent and 7% commission each month. This seems to be standard in the area. Authentic You posted:Raise the rent. My friend's parents own a rental duplex not far from me, and were renting it for what was a pretty drat good deal for the nice neighborhood it's in. When they were looking for new tenants, they'd get a shitton of inquiries about whether they accepted Section 8 (not sure about how Section 8 discrimination works in PA) and lots of low-quality applicants in general, so they just arbitrarily raised the rent by a few hundred a month. After that, only folks inquiring were quiet grad students, young professionals, and well-to-do young families. in the past few months all the relevant questions were kept to the home sperging/haunted house ownership threads without a real need to have a landlord thread per-say. if there was a need in the past couple of months, wouldn't a poster have just made a thread?
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:what's the plan for the new op and what will the new limits on discussion be? i gather that the new thread won't be about how to evict people with pesky laws getting in the way? Correct. There's a line between shady slumlords and people renting out a duplex. I don't want the actions of the former to get the thread shut down for the latter. Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:in the past few months all the relevant questions were kept to the home sperging/haunted house ownership threads without a real need to have a landlord thread per-say. if there was a need in the past couple of months, wouldn't a poster have just made a thread? There was some concerns about doxxing if someone posted the new OP with their account, so I asked around to crowd source it. If other threads have been filling in the gaps, maybe we can go with that.
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Simpsons Reference posted:Correct. There's a line between shady slumlords and people renting out a duplex. I don't want the actions of the former to get the thread shut down for the latter. quote:There was some concerns about doxxing if someone posted the new OP with their account, so I asked around to crowd source it. If other threads have been filling in the gaps, maybe we can go with that.
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Simpsons Reference posted:There was some concerns about doxxing if someone posted the new OP with their account, so I asked around to crowd source it. If other threads have been filling in the gaps, maybe we can go with that. IrvingWashington posted:I'm a great tenant.
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I'm a supporter of housing assistance in general, but Wiggly Wayne DDS you seem a bit insufferable. Landlords discriminating applications based on Section 8 status or criminal records is legal in some states and I don't think you should get to decide what is or is not 'acceptable discussion' on this here gay comedy forum. Sure if it's illegal I agree it should not be allowed in the thread, and there shouldn't be content that denigrates or attacks anybody, but other than that I don't see a need to censor people's opinions. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Nobody was offering to censor you from revealing yourself to be a rent seeking leech on our economy, who sees no problem with the assistance of human rights abuses that got this thread shut down. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Something Offal posted:Landlords discriminating applications based on Section 8 status or criminal records is legal in some states and I don't think you should get to decide what is or is not 'acceptable discussion' on this here gay comedy forum. 
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Something Offal posted:I'm a supporter of housing assistance in general, but Wiggly Wayne DDS you seem a bit insufferable. Landlords discriminating applications based on Section 8 status or criminal records is legal in some states and I don't think you should get to decide what is or is not 'acceptable discussion' on this here gay comedy forum. Sure if it's illegal I agree it should not be allowed in the thread, and there shouldn't be content that denigrates or attacks anybody, but other than that I don't see a need to censor people's opinions. Imagine . but growing to an infinite size.
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Something Offal posted:Landlords discriminating applications based on Section 8 status or criminal records is legal in some states and I don't think you should get to decide what is or is not 'acceptable discussion' on this here gay comedy forum. Sure if it's illegal Jesus christ
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Oh cool landlord thread's back, I'm sure everything will be fine. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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Jun 24, 2019 02:32
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I don't much like landlords tbqh
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Jun 24, 2019 02:32
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Dunno why my post is that  . For the record I'm a renter and I'm not really okay with Section 8 / criminal record screening from landlords but I think censorship of ideas is a slippery slope, that's all.
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Something Offal posted:Dunno why my post is that actually 'Ideas about how i'm better at screwing over poor people (read: Better at racism)' are bad, and people sharing them are bad.
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Magnusth posted:actually 'Ideas about how i'm better at screwing over poor people (read: Better at racism)' are bad, and people sharing them are bad.
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Something Offal posted:I'm a supporter of housing assistance in general, but Wiggly Wayne DDS you seem a bit insufferable. Landlords discriminating applications based on Section 8 status or criminal records is legal in some states and I don't think you should get to decide what is or is not 'acceptable discussion' on this here gay comedy forum. Sure if it's illegal I agree it should not be allowed in the thread, and there shouldn't be content that denigrates or attacks anybody, but other than that I don't see a need to censor people's opinions.
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Something Offal posted:Dunno why my post is that "censorship of ideas is a slippery slope" "i think we should be able to discriminated against people so we don't have to provide them a necessary human right" reallllllllllly hope the guillotines are televised cause I will tune in to yours (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 24, 2019 12:47
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A private org/community providing consequences for lovely speech is not censorship hth
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Fun to see the most guillotine-able thread trying to rev back up. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Regular Nintendo posted:A private org/community providing consequences for lovely speech is not censorship hth People with the worst opinions on everything conveniently forget this when people call them out for being idiots too. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The 1st amendment doesn't mean peoole cant be mean to you for your lovely ideas Jesus christ lmao.
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oh boy the landlord thread is back hopefully this time it won't turn into a bunch of bourgie fucks talking about how to discrimi-Something Offal posted:I'm a supporter of housing assistance in general, but Wiggly Wayne DDS you seem a bit insufferable. Landlords discriminating applications based on Section 8 status or criminal records is legal in some states and I don't think you should get to decide what is or is not 'acceptable discussion' on this here gay comedy forum. Sure if it's illegal I agree it should not be allowed in the thread, and there shouldn't be content that denigrates or attacks anybody, but other than that I don't see a need to censor people's opinions. oh. welp  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Somebody fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Jun 24, 2019 |
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:looking forward to the new thread if this is the level of discourse. what is your definition of housing assistance, and why do you believe a landlord should have a say in who is allowed a roof over their head? This is slightly out of scope for this thread but I'll answer because I think it's a discussion worth having. My definition of housing assistance would be whatever the current version is provided by fed, state, local govts. I'm not well-read enough on it to have, like, an ideal state or alternative definition that the current status quo doesn't hit. I think a landlord should have some say in determining which applicants they'd like to offer a lease. The world is a big complex place so the decision on whether to offer a lease can have myriad factors. Obviously, one should not be able to use 'protected classes' to influence that decision, unfortunately there will always be bad actors who will find ways around even protected class laws to be assholes. Whether you agree or disagree, those with Section 8 or criminal records aren't a protected class in many states and localities, so I think a landlord should be allowed to use anything they want outside of protected classes or anything else that would be illegal to consider. Now, you might think it's in bad taste or being a jerk, and I may too, but there's a very important difference between objectionable and illegal. Not only is censorship of ideas a slippery slope but I also wouldn't want to legislate a million protected classes, like student status for example. I think a landlord should probably be allowed to target maybe non-undergrads if that's how they feel -- hopefully they aren't jerks about it and make it clear in the ad. Nothing stopping the applicant from lying about it, though.
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i dont think people should do racist things i just think people should be able to share their tips on how to do racist things with each other (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Is this the place to discuss vacation rentals? My wife's family has frequented a vacation spot for basically the last 30 years, and since I've joined the family I've been a part of that now and I quite like the area. The idea here is to see what sort of costs we'd be looking at to own a place in a reasonably popular vacation spot and rent it out, with the perk of having a place to stay (yes, I know there are tax implications to using a vacation property for personal use). I guess the two biggest questions are: what costs do we need to consider, and where do you even begin to put numbers on things like insurance, maintenance, occupancy rates, etc. for a general area without having a specific property in mind? Obviously there's going to be property taxes, probably HOA fees, and all the other normal stuff that goes in to a house, but I don't know all the things that go in to a rental property. This wouldn't be a get rich quick scheme, or even a get rich slowly scheme. Just trying to see where to start the calculations to find out where the costs end up being.
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Johnny Truant posted:"censorship of ideas is a slippery slope" 
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Something Offal posted:Not only is censorship of ideas a slippery slope  It's not "censorship of ideas" to ask the mods that a thread all about how to profitably cause harm to people be loving killed. Apparently the BFC mods disagree, and want to have this thread still exist for reasons, even though it is literally a thread to game theory plan the best way to gently caress with your tenants. If we had a thread called "Best tips on how to steal money from poor people" or "Let's chat about the wonderful world of organizing Bum Fights!" I would want those thread killed too. The forums don't allow piracy chat, but you can talk about how to gently caress with your actual tenants whose shelter you hold over them all day long. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Is it ok to build a separate entrance for the poors living in my building? I know I have to let them in but I don’t want them to be seen by the real residents. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Kaysette posted:Is it ok to build a separate entrance for the poors living in my building? I know I have to let them in but I don’t want them to be seen by the real residents. human beings have a right to property values not being lowered by proximity to the underclass (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I don't know, maybe take it up with a society that hasn't determined property rights to be as inalienable as life and liberty.
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Something Offal posted:This is slightly out of scope for this thread but I'll answer because I think it's a discussion worth having. My definition of housing assistance would be whatever the current version is provided by fed, state, local govts. I'm not well-read enough on it to have, like, an ideal state or alternative definition that the current status quo doesn't hit. if you believe that regulations are a slippery slope then get involved in the open consultations when government formalise these decisions. they aren't all made behind closed doors, for example in my country here are previous consultations that would impact a landlord: Consultation on the Law of Succession 2019 Delivering improved transparency in land ownership in Scotland: Consultation on draft regulations Building Standards Compliance and Fire Safety – a consultation on making Scotland’s buildings safer for people Scottish Building Regulations: Review of Energy Standards: ‘Call for Evidence’ in each you can view publicised responses by individuals, or organisations on how they perceive each problem. if you're so concerned over slippery slopes then join in the formal conversations, everyone will enjoy you making a case for landlords having an absolute say on not having those people living in their area. DaveSauce posted:Is this the place to discuss vacation rentals?
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EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:I don't know, maybe take it up with a society that hasn't determined property rights to be as inalienable as life and liberty. please make this the new thread name and then gas the entire thread
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whatis posted:please make this the new thread name and then gas the entire thread only if we can gas the racist opinions along with them
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Something Offal posted:This is slightly out of scope for this thread but I'll answer because I think it's a discussion worth having. My definition of housing assistance would be whatever the current version is provided by fed, state, local govts. I'm not well-read enough on it to have, like, an ideal state or alternative definition that the current status quo doesn't hit. Who cares what's illegal? there are plenty of things that aren't illegal but that we should probably not have threads to help each other do! Like being a huge rear end in a top hat, or a landlord, or murdering black people if they look at you funny in arkansas. Who Cares what's illegal or what isn't? Also, no, landlords should have litterally no say in who they lease to because landlords should not exist and the fact that they do is a crime against all humanity. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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