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iospace posted:Bitcoin is why I went with a new card instead of buying used. You’d have likely been fine if you went Nvidia, because the digital signature for flashing firmwares on Pascal hasn’t been broken. Miners typically undervolt their cards, the real problem is AMD cards get flashed with wack rear end firmwares that often aren’t replaced with a stock one by the time they’re sold.
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Craptacular! posted:Yeah, I keep hearing that “1440p means buy a 1080ti” but I’m doing okay with a 1070 running on less than ultra settings. Admittedly, most of my games are live service games from 2016 and 2017. I don’t see anything screaming upgrade until Cyberpunk. I know Doom Eternal will be incredibly optimized because Doom 2016 was. Yeah, honestly that's flawed. It's more like "1440p *Ultrawide*, buy a 1080Ti -or- 2080." Or a 2070S or 2080S, when they come out. For 16:9 1440p, you'll likely be more than fine with a 2070S, simply because we can't really be sure what the performance delta will be between a 2060S and 1070/1070Ti yet. I'm planning on running my 3418DW into the goddamned *ground*, and I'm pretty sure my "OG" 2080 FTW3 will feed it for the next few years without issue or gripe.
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1080Ti and AW3418DW crew and it is the absolute own zone. Jelly of your 2080 tho, i have a 2060 in my new laptop and was playing with the Q2 RTX tech demo and man, I can't wait for a generation or two from now..
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I still think a 2070S will be my next card for my 1440p usage. But I think the last game I bought was PayDay2, so not quite sure *why*. Might've been Stellaris, actually. But either way...
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surf rock posted:I liked the breakdown that someone in the PC building thread used for thinking about a couple of GPUs. I wanted to try to expand on it a bit: From the last page but I feel like for a lot of games even a 2080ti won't be enough for 4k/60-100hz. As always it's about how much AA you want to run but I guess we'll see. I hope a decent 4k 100-120hz monitor comes out before cyberpunk 2077.
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ItBreathes posted:Why should X coin be the new hot thing where Y coin failed, given that they're built on the same premise? Imagine if someone starts up a bitcoin based solely on the premise of marketing how it's cooler/more fashionable/safer/etc., whether true or not... "omg u mine DOGE?? like, that was sooo 2015 bruh. i mine DIAMONPLAT  "*links to expertly produced youtube ad and merch store* Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jun 23, 2019 |
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With enough AA anything can run bad. I wasn't paying attention and I set a source port of Doom to 64x AA and it ran in the single digits. Conversely, if you don't like how AA looks you can run a lower end card faster.
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10,712.10. Are we seriously doing this again? really???  Goddamnit you loving lobertarian assholes can you not gently caress up another 5 years of GPU production?  
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10,000 seems like it doesn't matter for people paying for their electricity. 2 years ago at 20,000 dollars you could make about 20 dollars a week against costing about a dollar per day in electricity with a 1080. It's surely slowed down now so you'd need it to be worth even more to cover your electrical costs.
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he'll yeah amd + nvidia stock goin UPPP
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Jun 23, 2019 21:30
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Are GPUs still profitable though? I figured the ASICs have taken over by now. No way I'm mining in the summer with my GPU battling my air conditioner anyway.
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Jun 23, 2019 21:38
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GPUs are not profitable for bitcoin, but when bitcoin is strong, crypto in general is strong, and it becomes profitable to mine other crypto on GPUs.
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I fired up nicehash just because I was curious, it's definitely profitable ($0.80/day on my 1060 vs $0.20 power cost) but not really enough to be worth it for me, at one point this card did like $4 a day.
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MaxxBot posted:I fired up nicehash just because I was curious, it's definitely profitable ($0.80/day on my 1060 vs $0.20 power cost) but not really enough to be worth it for me, at one point this card did like $4 a day. Nicehash is telling my 2080ti can pull about $2.30 a day. Absolutely not worth buying a 2080ti to on,y mine but might be fine if you own one for gaming and let it run when not using it.
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B-Mac posted:might be fine if you own one for gaming and let it run when not using it. you shut the gently caress up
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I'm always confused when there is no discussion of a minimum amount of profit to be needed to overcome the negative morality of wasting energy like that. Shouldn't the payoff be worded as like 'I could make xxx per day after electricity but it's not enough to make me feel good about the amount of energy I'd be wasting so I'm not going to bother"?
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B-Mac posted:Nicehash is telling my 2080ti can pull about $2.30 a day. Absolutely not worth buying a 2080ti to on,y mine but might be fine if you own one for gaming and let it run when not using it. Even already owning one that's not worth it. Less than 10 cents an hour to perpetuate a currency that wastes an abhorrent amount of energy generating more carbon emissions.
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VelociBacon posted:I'm always confused when there is no discussion of a minimum amount of profit to be needed to overcome the negative morality of wasting energy like that. Shouldn't the payoff be worded as like 'I could make xxx per day after electricity but it's not enough to make me feel good about the amount of energy I'd be wasting so I'm not going to bother"? Because I don’t run it all the time, $2/day is the threshold for me personally. It’s money from something I had already anyway, that I don’t have to audition before someone to get.
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Jun 24, 2019 09:32
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A GPU using mostly RAM to hash isn't going to melt the planet, you're fine
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No one thing is, you could also say that about a tire fire a mile high.
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Setzer Gabbiani posted:A GPU using mostly RAM to hash isn't going to melt the planet, you're fine Cryptocurrency mining globally uses electricity somewhere on the scale of Belgium. It's... not fine.
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Amazon refurb GPU sale happening today https://www.amazon.com/s?hidden-key...5_4142_55c38f5f
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Setzer Gabbiani posted:A GPU using mostly RAM to hash isn't going to melt the planet, you're fine 7 million houses can be powered by the power consumption just for bitcoin, not to mention all of the other shitcoins. But you're helping hash for ransomware and money laundering, so it's for a good cause.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Amazon refurb GPU sale happening today I like how the 3 cards I see (1070Ti and 2 1080Ti's) are all discounted from way above their MSRP to their sale price of, around MSRP for 2 years ago.
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Inept posted:7 million houses can be powered by the power consumption just for bitcoin, not to mention all of the other shitcoins. But you're helping hash for ransomware and money laundering, so it's for a good cause. On the flip side, In places like Venezuela, mining Crypto or gold farming in WoW is some of the only ways to make enough money to buy food.
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EdEddnEddy posted:I like how the 3 cards I see (1070Ti and 2 1080Ti's) are all discounted from way above their MSRP to their sale price of, around MSRP for 2 years ago. My thoughts exactly...refurb 1080Ti for $700-750? Hard pass
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EdEddnEddy posted:On the flip side, In places like Venezuela, mining Crypto or gold farming in WoW is some of the only ways to make enough money to buy food. Yeah I'm making the leap here in assuming that people posting in SH/SC aren't starving Venezuelans with 1080TIs
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EdEddnEddy posted:On the flip side, In places like Venezuela, mining Crypto or gold farming in WoW is some of the only ways to make enough money to buy food. If you want to help the Venezuelans you should be buying the butts they're mining instead of competing directly against them and driving up the difficulty.
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I need some form of confirmation that we're talking about fair trade butts here.
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780Ti is still going surprisingly strong in many titles but I had the upgrade itch at last. Got an EVGA 2060 SC Ultra Gaming, which doesn't have a boost clock as high out the box as their XC Ultra but it's close and seems like it should be a great performance boost for my comp. Going to be cool to update my video drivers for the first time in years. I used to stay on top of all this stuff, felt weirdly unfamiliar with the various technologies and product types offered by EVGA now, and nearly went with the 1660Ti. But the 2060 seems to beat it at everything and they were close in price.  Is their new raytracing like PhysX where studios don't implement it without substantial influence from nV because it's proprietary? Anyone think I boned up getting the 2060? Don't plan on gaming higher than 1080p but I like eye candy and AA.
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hell yeah, maybe this will push nv/amd to finally support integer scaling https://twitter.com/gfxlisa/status/1143163786783707136
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repiv posted:hell yeah, maybe this will push nv/amd to finally support integer scaling What does she mean by Gen 9 versus Gen 11? That can't be 9000k versus 11000k series processors, I don't think.
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Probably referring to iGPU generation. The iGPU started numbering back in like Conroe or something so it's numbered ahead of the CPU core generation (which started with Nehalem). The iGPU has been stuck for a while because all the future iterations were designed on 10nm, so they are going to "skip" a couple generations here iirc.
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Arivia posted:What does she mean by Gen 9 versus Gen 11? That can't be 9000k versus 11000k series processors, I don't think. Gen 9 = Skylake/Kaby Lake/Coffee Lake, Gen 11 = Ice Lake. (Gen 10 was the cancelled Cannon Lake.)
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Paul MaudDib posted:Probably referring to iGPU generation. The iGPU started numbering back in like Conroe or something so it's numbered ahead of the CPU core generation (which started with Nehalem). Yeah, Gen9 is the iGPU used in Skylake through Coffeelake, Gen10 is used on Cannonlake, and Gen11 will be used on Icelake and their Xe discrete GPUs. e;fb
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Agreed posted:780Ti is still going surprisingly strong in many titles but I had the upgrade itch at last. Got an EVGA 2060 SC Ultra Gaming, which doesn't have a boost clock as high out the box as their XC Ultra but it's close and seems like it should be a great performance boost for my comp. Going to be cool to update my video drivers for the first time in years. Not sure exactly why but the GK110 (780/780 Ti/Titan) seem to have aged better than the other Keplers, it seems like the gap between them and the lower chips is widening. It's still not fantastic but the 780/780 Ti are only somewhat bad while the 770/680/etc really fell off hard. Not sure if it's ROPs or memory bandwidth or what. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jun 24, 2019 |
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Arivia posted:What does she mean by Gen 9 versus Gen 11? That can't be 9000k versus 11000k series processors, I don't think. Intel's IGP generations aren't in lockstep with their CPU generations. Gen 9 is Skylake through Coffee Lake Refresh. 10th Gen was on Cannonlake (which more or less is gonna get skipped) , and 11th is in the Sunny Cove parts (so Ice Lake and on) e: beaten nearly word for word twice, dang!
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the other cool thing about bitcoin is that the people who have the most of it were the ones using it to sell CP and drugs, so people jumping on and increasing the value has probably made a few CP multimillionaires.
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I've still got a GTX970 and will be really annoyed if they do it again.
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I don't get why Bitcoin is going up. Why? What is it good for besides money laundering, cartels, human/drug trafficking, and helping China make buttloads of money?
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