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Yes, we invaded Afghanistan to go after the Saudi Arabian leader of Al-Queda, who planned terror attacks funded by Saudi Arabia, and 15 out of 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. I can see the clear line of reasoning here. Speaking of the cost of lies...
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Remember that time Saudi Arabia threatened to do 9/11 to Toronto on Twitter
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Jun 24, 2019 00:05
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CainFortea posted:Yes, we invaded Afghanistan to go after the Saudi Arabian leader of Al-Queda, who planned terror attacks funded by Saudi Arabia, and 15 out of 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. But, al qaeda was in Afghanistan. This is not a fact in dispute and it is some bizarre revisionism to suggest otherwise.
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Jun 24, 2019 00:38
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Zoran posted:Remember that time Saudi Arabia threatened to do 9/11 to Toronto on Twitter Yeah lol 
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Jun 24, 2019 00:47
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El_Elegante posted:But, al qaeda was in Afghanistan. This is not a fact in dispute and it is some bizarre revisionism to suggest otherwise. Yeah there's a reason why most of the world was fully onboard with joining the US in going into Afghanistan, but once Bush shifted to Iraq his "coalition of the willing" shrank to Tony Blair and John Howard desperately slobbing at his balls.
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Jun 24, 2019 01:33
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah there's a reason why most of the world was fully onboard with joining the US in going into Afghanistan, but once Bush shifted to Iraq his "coalition of the willing" shrank to Tony Blair and John Howard desperately slobbing at his balls. You. Forgot. POLAND!!!!!
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Jun 24, 2019 02:06
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Zorak of Michigan posted:If terrorists successfully and intentionally destroyed a nuclear plant and spread radioactive material across a wide area, hawks would term it a use of WMDs by terrorists. US doctrine if attacked by WMDs has been to respond with nuclear weapons. That always assumed the WMD attack came as part of an existing war, so the US response to WMD attack by terrorists would be hard to predict. Bad as the US response to 9/11 was, an extra dimension of nuclear uncertainty would be "out of control" by any standard. I honestly don't think breaching a reactor core would have necessarily provoked a stronger response from the US, just because the war fever was insane as-is. There's been people who occasionally suggest that if Bin Laden had holed up in Pakistan we wouldn't have gone in because Pakistan has nuclear weapons, but I'm pretty sure in that moment the only countries who we wouldn't have invaded/attacked to go after him would have been either Russia or China.
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Jun 24, 2019 02:17
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El_Elegante posted:But, al qaeda was in Afghanistan. This is not a fact in dispute and it is some bizarre revisionism to suggest otherwise. Al-Queda is an international terrorist orginization. This is not a fact in dispute. And it is some bizarre revisionism to suggest otherwise.
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Jun 24, 2019 02:27
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Hey I read The Bear and the Dragon, Tom Clancy assures us that if the US ever went to war with China (to protect Russian oil interests!) it would be pathetically easy to clown on the Chinese who would just splutter impotently before the good Christian population of China overthrew the CCP over forced abortions. The scary part is that apparently Tom Clancy got WAAAAAY weirder after 9/11 and a book like The Bear and the Dragon would be considered relatively sane by comparison.
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Jun 24, 2019 02:28
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Jerusalem posted:Hey I read The Bear and the Dragon, Tom Clancy assures us that if the US ever went to war with China (to protect Russian oil interests!) it would be pathetically easy to clown on the Chinese who would just splutter impotently before the good Christian population of China overthrew the CCP over forced abortions. Ironic, given that the current political situation is the start of every 90's Tom Clancy novel: a secret cabal of Nazis has taken over the American government in order to force a war with [INSERT CURRENT US BOOGEYMAN].
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Jun 24, 2019 02:43
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CainFortea posted:Al-Queda is an international terrorist orginization. This is not a fact in dispute. And it is some bizarre revisionism to suggest otherwise. Please point out to me where I suggested otherwise.
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Jun 24, 2019 02:46
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Edit: never mind, just not gonna touch stupid people's poop. I retract it all. Bin Laden was never born in Saudia Arabia, the hijackers were all born in literally any country but Saudia Arabia, and Saudia Arabia has literally never supported Al-Queda with anything ever at all. My bad, I was trying to revise history.
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Jun 24, 2019 02:52
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The meltdowns are supposed to happen in the reactor core, friend.
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Jun 24, 2019 02:58
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TV IV > Chernobyl - "The thread is in full meltdown!" "Not great. Not terrible."
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Jun 24, 2019 04:16
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Ironic, given that the current political situation is the start of every 90's Tom Clancy novel: a secret cabal of Nazis has taken over the American government in order to force a war with [INSERT CURRENT US BOOGEYMAN]. I heard one of the later stories features a secret terrorist infiltrator in the White House, only that wily President Ryan gets the drop on him by tossing him a football, causing him to dive aside in a panic going,"BY ALLAH NO MY HANDS CANNOT TOUCH THE FILTHY SKIN OF A PIG!  ".I'd kind of like to read that book, but only if it comes with a flashing neon sign attached that says,"  THIS IS WHAT TOM CLANCY ACTUALLY BELIEVES "
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Jun 24, 2019 04:22
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Who was the crazy pseudo-tom clancy author that wrote a post 9/11 novel about al qaeda going around abducting and raping co-eds and only a surly ultraviolent exmarine could stop them, only the marine was also really into rape and said that the only real crime that the terrorists were doing was raping americans, and the women were still super horny despite all the rape and became a harem for the marine as he hunted down (and raped) more terrorists? i never read the novel, but I remember it had a reputation around here way back in the day
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Jun 24, 2019 06:21
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Jerusalem posted:I heard one of the later stories features a secret terrorist infiltrator in the White House, only that wily President Ryan gets the drop on him by tossing him a football, causing him to dive aside in a panic going,"BY ALLAH NO MY HANDS CANNOT TOUCH THE FILTHY SKIN OF A PIG! Boomers had their brains soaked in so much lead it's hard to fathom today. If there is ever another nuclear disaster in the west we can just send in boomers in underpants. I don't think they will notice anything with all the residual lead in their bodies.
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Jun 24, 2019 06:27
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Eau de MacGowan posted:Who was the crazy pseudo-tom clancy author that wrote a post 9/11 novel about al qaeda going around abducting and raping co-eds and only a surly ultraviolent exmarine could stop them, only the marine was also really into rape and said that the only real crime that the terrorists were doing was raping americans, and the women were still super horny despite all the rape and became a harem for the marine as he hunted down (and raped) more terrorists? I have never read this book. I can say with absolute authority that it was John Ringo.
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Jun 24, 2019 06:57
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CainFortea posted:I have never read this book. I can say with absolute authority that it was John Ringo.  quote:The central hero, Michael Harmon (A.K.A. Mike Jenkins, A.K.A. Ghost), is a self-proclaimed sadist, repressed rapist, former United States Navy Boatswain's Mate 1st Class, and a trainer of US Navy SEALs.
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Jun 24, 2019 14:02
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Ha. Nailed it. 90% of his stories contain poo poo like that.
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Jun 24, 2019 14:16
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If you’ve never read this thread, you are in for an incredible treat.
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Jun 24, 2019 14:59
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The Matthew (?) Bracken Let's Reads in TFR are also pretty good. I couldn't force myself through Ringo though.
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Jun 24, 2019 16:27
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CainFortea posted:Ha. Nailed it. And the other 10% are even weirder. He wrote an entire series where society has evolved into a Star Trek like utopia where trans(gender/human/species) people were the good guys and changing your body was as easy changing a computer program. Then an evil fundamentalist group takes over the government and locks everyone into whatever body they were inhabiting at the time. The entire society gets stuck in feudal tech levels and the only two that can save them are a dude seriously into SCA blacksmithing and a USMC cosplayer.
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Jun 24, 2019 17:22
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:And the other 10% are even weirder. He wrote an entire series where society has evolved into a Star Trek like utopia where trans(gender/human/species) people were the good guys and changing your body was as easy changing a computer program. Then an evil fundamentalist group takes over the government and locks everyone into whatever body they were inhabiting at the time. The entire society gets stuck in feudal tech levels and the only two that can save them are a dude seriously into SCA blacksmithing and a USMC cosplayer. There are two series i've found where it's not as weird, and whatever crazy right wing crap can be skipped over without losing the story. And one of those series is based on someone else's world, and the other is co-written with another author.
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Jun 24, 2019 17:30
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Is John Ringo the guy whose daughter secretly took over writing duties and turned out to be much more right-wing than he was? Or was that some other thriller author I'm remembering?
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Jun 24, 2019 17:47
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Eau de MacGowan posted:Who was the crazy pseudo-tom clancy author that wrote a post 9/11 novel about al qaeda going around abducting and raping co-eds and only a surly ultraviolent exmarine could stop them, only the marine was also really into rape and said that the only real crime that the terrorists were doing was raping americans, and the women were still super horny despite all the rape and became a harem for the marine as he hunted down (and raped) more terrorists? This sounds ripe for a Verhoeven type Starship Troopers treatment
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Jun 24, 2019 18:46
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Is John Ringo the guy whose daughter secretly took over writing duties and turned out to be much more right-wing than he was? Or was that some other thriller author I'm remembering?
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Jun 24, 2019 18:57
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Jerusalem posted:I heard one of the later stories features a secret terrorist infiltrator in the White House, only that wily President Ryan gets the drop on him by tossing him a football, causing him to dive aside in a panic going,"BY ALLAH NO MY HANDS CANNOT TOUCH THE FILTHY SKIN OF A PIG! The football thing is from The Teeth of the Tiger, where the protagonists take out Muslim terrorists shooting up a mall. As one of the terrorists lays dying, a character places a football in his hands as a final gently caress you. It reads like a weird post-9/11 wish fulfillment fantasy. The secret infiltrator is from Executive Orders, and they get the drop on him by swapping out his bullets with duds. That book's got plenty of wackier poo poo in it, though, like President Ryan showing live footage of the Iranian leader's house getting blown to poo poo during a press conference that the leader himself is watching while inside his house about to get blown up.
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Jun 24, 2019 20:58
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https://twitter.com/PIXELATED__CAT/status/1143299641712218113
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Jun 25, 2019 03:35
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I really hope we see some Reactor #4 or Guys Who Touched Spicy Rocks/Looked Directly Into Hades costumes during the Halloween season this fall. Some parent will dress their kids as Legasov or Shcherbina or something. Lil’ Shcherbina with a busted rotary phone.
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Jun 25, 2019 05:23
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I'm just gonna walk around naked with a miners cap on.
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Jun 25, 2019 05:30
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spankmeister posted:I'm just gonna walk around naked with a miners cap on. Hell, why wait for Halloween
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Jun 25, 2019 05:32
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El_Elegante posted:One of you is wrong. I think you missed that key word "IF"
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TigerXtrm posted:What baffles me is the thought process where hijacking planes and flying them into skyscrapers in the hopes of collapsing them is not getting 'out of control'. Because the destruction is consolidated to those places, you know, rather than spreading unstoppably across the globe CainFortea posted:Edit: never mind, just not gonna touch stupid people's poop. I retract it all. Bin Laden was never born in Saudia Arabia, the hijackers were all born in literally any country but Saudia Arabia, and Saudia Arabia has literally never supported Al-Queda with anything ever at all. My bad, I was trying to revise history. Hey, US soldiers and British soldiers fought along side the Nazis, guess Britain and the US were secretly chummy with ol' Adolf. Seriously dude, just because people were citizens of X doesn't mean X is a major or even minor player in disaster Y By the way, the US funded and supplied arms to the same dudes when Russia was stomping through, so I guess that means the US was part of Al Queda SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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Jun 25, 2019 10:23
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SocketWrench posted:By the way, the US funded and supplied arms to the same dudes when Russia was stomping through, so I guess that means the US was part of Al Queda This thread is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan.
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Jun 25, 2019 10:44
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SocketWrench posted:I think you missed that key word "IF" No, I didn’t. The second post says IF airliners struck nuclear plants nothing would happen. How dumb are you?
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Jun 25, 2019 14:18
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so uh maybe it's time to bring up the massive explosion that just happened in Philadelphia https://6abc.com/new-photos-show-tank-that-exploded-at-philadelphia-refinery/5361978/
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Jun 25, 2019 18:44
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the escape goat posted:so uh maybe it's time to bring up the massive explosion that just happened in Philadelphia https://6abc.com/new-photos-show-tank-that-exploded-at-philadelphia-refinery/5361978/ Five injuries. Not great. Not terrible.
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Jun 25, 2019 19:01
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El_Elegante posted:No, I didn’t. The second post says IF airliners struck nuclear plants nothing would happen. How dumb are you? If they managed to 9/11 the reactors. I think it's pretty simple. I never said they could or couldn't, but if they could
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Jet fuel can't melt steel containment vessels
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