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I always forget it has 110 base Def, but its HP really drags everything down. Not that it matters since it's way too late to consider using from when you get Eevee, but there's a bunch of other cool mons nearby to use!
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Part 14: Moist Pastoria City Day / Pastoria City Night Gero, gero. Here's a new city to explore. I'm sure we won't be here for the entire upda- oh we actually will be.  Pastoria City: The Marsh City From pasture and euphoria, the feeling of seeing a Croagunk. Nomose City: Town that lives with the Great Marsh. From 野面 nomose (field).   Just like you, he was very close with his Pokemon. Hey, thanks for making me smile! This might put a smile on your face. Try dressing up a Pokemon with this CHIMCHAR Mask!  Then, I took the Berries and cooked them into Poffins. All the work is worth it when I see how happy they make my Pokemon!   Hmhm... I see... this isn't what I had hoped to see... I can't lie to you, so I'll have to tell it to you straight. This Pokemon's not bad, but it's not good, either. It's just so-so. If you want to improve this one's condition, feed it some more Poffins!  The Gym is pretty important, so we'll do it last. We don't want to approach it until we're ready either.   I know every move that Pokemon learn while they're leveling up, and I can teach Pokemon those moves. I can teach a move to a Pokemon of yours if you'd like. I'll do it if you'll trade me a Heart Scale. Oh! That's it! That's an honest-to-goodness Heart Scale! Let me guess, you want me to teach one of your Pokemon a move? Which Pokemon needs tutoring? Finally we've made it to the Move Tutor. A fair few Pokemon have exclusive moves to this, available at level 1. We don't need Brick Break anymore, so we'll grab Ice Fang. Heart Scales are also pretty easy to come back, being somewhat uncommon in the Underground, as well as available from the News Press in Solaceon, in Platinum. They're also found 50% of the time on Luvdisc, but that won't be for a while yet.  I believe this is also the first time we've seen a Croagunk statue. Oh, uh, I mean, Quick Balls. 4x catch rate on the first turn, I'll be using a lot of these for the rest of the series, especially when they get even better next gen!   If you have, I want to see both of them together. I'll give you a Macho Brace if you do that for me. Deal? Cool! A female and a male COMBEE. I feel giddy! Here's your reward like I promised. Go ahead, take it!  Simple enough, you'll come across plenty of male Combee on your path to Vespiquen. It doubles all EVs gained, but halves the Speed stat. In DP, you needed the 3 different forms of Burmy, which is also easy enough to do.   I love planting Berries wherever I go. I'll give you a Berry, too. Please plant it somewhere. Planting Berries is good for Pokemon. It provides them with more things to eat in the wild.I'd rather they didn't eat these, thank you. All the berries this woman offers are those that reduce the damage of a super effective attack. There's one area later we can also get these at, but this is the most consistent way of getting them, since they're all pretty useful in one way or another.   And there we go, a lot of good stuff in this city, but there's two big things we'll get to in just a moment.  I hope you like marshes, cause there's a lot of them in our near future. There's of course hidden items in them, but unless you tap on the exact pixel an item's at, the Dowsing Machine will just emit circles, telling you there's an item near. Not too useful, but we've gotta dive in!   Very important to come here as soon as you can if you've got a male Kirlia waiting to shine in the next Gym battle. Only available in Plat, since both Gallade and Froslass aren't in the Sinnoh Dex in DP, but you get two later anyway, as well as from Pickup.   Might as well grab these berries before I forget and there's just one last thing to do...   Is that a fish? He's a gun! Blam! Blam! Uh, anyway, if you wanted a bunch of cool special moves to fire off, then this is a mon for you. With Psybeam, Aurora Beam, Bubblebeam, Bullet Seed, Signal Beam and Hyper Beam, it has some crazy variety as you raise it. It gets even crazier when it evolves, which it'll do pretty soon, and you've seen from Colosseum how nuts it can get. While most of its moves are special, it gets some physical toys to play with, it's a lot of fun.  Ugh. Alright, time for the final Safari Zone I'll have to cover. Not surprised they dropped it, since this is definitely a bad one, but maybe we'll get lucky?   How would you like to try my game out at the same time? The rule--yep, there's only one--is real simple. All you have to do is capture five or more Pokemon in one Safari Game. If you can do that, I'll give you the Poketch app Matchup Checker. Before we get into the game itself, it's definitely worth coming up here. Let's see what we've got.   Mmhm, good, good. The binoculars show what Pokemon can be found in certain areas of the Great Marsh, which is very important for some Pokemon, as I'll explain in a moment.    We'll let you know when your game is over. Until then, enjoy yourself, please! Off you go on your wild excursion! Great Marsh    I'll try finding more tomorrow.Just before we start, it's important to come here in DP even if you don't want to catch anything, because this guy gives you the Defog HM! Little bit annoying to hide it away here and not tell you. At least here he gives you a daily shard, but it also means this place is completely optional in Plat, since you really don't want to miss out on Defog, for your sanity.  But we're here now, so it's time to traipse through the marsh to find rare Pokemon. This place is pretty drat big, split into 6 areas like Emerald's Safari Zone, with different Pokemon found in each area. We'll head to the top left with Area 1 and head down from there. Here's the map for both DP and Plat, since the Marsh was redesigned between versions for the better.   We've got 500 steps to find items and catch Pokemon. You can see the different shades of marsh and it's very important, since the darkest patches are ones you'll sink into and need to struggle out of to be freed. If this happens on a grass tile, you can encounter something while struggling, but be automatically freed after the battle's over. Also, in DP, there was no way to distinguish deep marsh. It's a miracle people even like Sinnoh considering how godawful the initial games were, eh?  We've done this quite a few times before, so this should be quite familiar, especially if you remember how I covered the Johto Safairi Zone in HGSS. While this place doesn't have the staggering variety of mons that place did, it has the same mechanics, which will be at the end of the update if you want a refresher on how it all works. Each Pokemon has their standard catch rate that you can modify by throwing Mud or Bait at them, while the Safari Ball is a 1.5x multiplier. All Pokemon available in a Gen 4 Safari Zone has a species specific escape rate that is compared to a random number each turn. All very fun, I'm sure.   Off to a good start then... If you want a good typing that evolves super early, then this is a good pick. While you've only got Water Gun and Mud Bomb for now, it's enough until you get Earthquake later on. At least you've got Slam for your physical side, but your special moves will hurt fine enough.  Stealth: 100     Like every other Safari Zone ever, the best chance of catching stuff is just throwing balls, Mud makes the Pokemon way too easy to flee since you don't know escape rates, while Bait means you'll never catch the drat thing since the Safari Ball is pretty meh and reducing the catch rate on a full health mon is never the best idea.     But I'm sure any minute now we'll catch a Pokemon as we move into Area 2. Quagsire is a great defensive Pokemon that needs a bit of TM help so it has some physical moves. Rock Tomb, ugh, Brick Break and Earthquake will pair nicely with the upcoming Surf, but since it'll learn EQ pretty soon, probably not worth putting the TM on it. It doesn't learn much from there, you're just waiting to put Waterfall on it.  Why is it so goddamn hard to catch a goddamn Wooper, goddamn!   I'm walking on water, bitch.   Eventually we finally get something. I'm not too worried about finding stuff, there's a few Pokemon that are rare in most areas, but have one where they're pretty common, like Tropius in 1 and 2.   Yeah, whatever... it's a rare encounter here, but we'll find it much easier in another area.  The numerous shards are the main reason to come here, since the various items, hidden or otherwise, aren't too amazing.   Oh wow, things are finally turning around, after going through 2/3rds of my stash.   That Hyper Potion is not worth it. Tangela is a pretty rare encounter elsewhere, but in areas 3 and 4 it's pretty common. However, it's best to hunt during the day since percentages are reduced at night so Hoothoot and Noctowl spawn.   Now I'm catching everything so easily, it's almost like I got super frustrated and turned on an instant catch cheat. But that doesn't sound like me.   Not much to certain areas, so off to 3!   Oh, woah! No, not the Leaf Stone, there's no mons that evolve through it in the dex, but Croagunk is a nice find, since we can get a lot more in this area. See, there's a fair few Pokemon in this marsh that aren't tied to a specific area, but have a chance to appear daily. We already knew about Skorupi, but it's good to know Croagunk is also around. It's compensated by lowering Wooper's encounter rate by 10%, though some of the daily Pokemon can already be found in the Marsh, and so their rate is boosted by an extra 10%.   So it's easy enough to find one. The daily Pokemon are Wooper, Quagsire, Tangela, Yanma, Tropius, Skorupi, Croagunk and Carnivine, the latter three of course being the only way to encounter them. It can be pretty frustrating to obtain them, since the only way to know about them aside from endless encounters is using the binoculars, but it just shows a small area where they could be found, which doesn't help if you're not familiar with the Marsh. If you don't get the right Pokemon, you've gotta try again tomorrow, so I was pretty lucky getting two of those Pokemon in one day.   I was worried we'd run out of balls before running out a steps.  Oh there we go. We've still got some things to do, so we'll head right back in. But since DP obviously didn't have the expansion mons of Yanma, Tangela and Tropius, what exciting Pokemon could you encounter? Well, how about Starly, Bidoof and Budew! I'm serious, though we can still find Bibarel here in Plat. Each area was also very similar, but it wasn't all bad, you could find Psyduck and Golduck in the grass, as well as Marill and Azurill, the latter we can't get for a little bit yet. The daily Pokemon consisted of Golduck, Roselia, Staravia, Marill, Azurill, Wooper, Quagsire, Bidoof, Bibarel, Skorupi, Croagunk and Carnivine. So nothing too amazing aside from those last 3, but it could be worse, I guess?  Ayup! You've done that all right! Isn't that something! Well, here you are, then. The Poketch app Matchup Checker.  The Matchup Checker app figures out how Pokemon types match up. It won't help tell us how we match up as friends, though.  Pretty simple app, it tells you the four stages of Egg compatibility from Pokemon in the party, starting with 0 hearts for different Egg groups, same gender, etc, to 1 heart if it's different compatible species from the same trainer. 2 hearts is different compatible species from different trainers, or the same different gender species from the same trainer. 3 hearts is the same different gender species from different trainers. Seems like a pretty simple app, but those who only played DP probably don't remember this one. That's because it's part of a very cursed group: event exclusive Poketch apps. Seriously. It was distributed to DP games at Pokemon Center stores in Japan from April 28th to May 13th 2007 to celebrate the release of DP in US. That's it, the only way to get it in DP, so they thankfully added it to Plat, since event exclusive Poketch apps is such a stupid concept. So I probably shouldn't mention the other two event exclusive apps that were NEVER RELEASED!  Alright, back to it!   Back in Area 5, still some Pokemon to grab.   Okay it's not showing up, so off to Area 6.   There we go, that's every item in the Great Marsh. Meh. Time to encounter the last few mons that's left!  Hrm. Yanma is pretty common in Areas 5 and 6, so it's a bit annoying it took a while to find.   At least Skorupi didn't take too long.   Alright, sheesh, there's only one Pokemon we're not able to get right now, which is pretty lucky, since daily Pokemon are garbage.  And there we go, it's almost like I can encounter anything I want!   That's everything! Okay, there's one thing in the postgame, there usually is, but I'm glad to be finished covering these stupid places. Safari Zones were interesting concepts with mediocre execution, with the marshy area just being a super bad idea for the last main one. Like the Game Corner, I'm glad they're gone.    Hehehe! I'm not always going to plow into you every time we meet! So how's it going, Hikari? Buffing up your Pokemon, eh? I'll test you and your Pokemon out to see how buff and tough you are! Rival Battle   Bit of a surprise battle, but him waiting patiently for you to go to him won't be the norm!   Radium can take on the Staravia no problem, but Etrian needs some very important experience just before the Gym!   Monferno is pretty drat fragile, so won't be hard to take down. You might think his starter should've evolved by now due to its level, but this is similar to a rival battle in DP, where he fought you after the Gym, but was like 8 levels lower for some reason. He still had Starly! So they maybe went a little far in the other direction, but it's appreciated, since they're fundamentally in the same place, after the fourth Gym, but shows a much smoother level curve.   Until Roselia gets some Poison moves that's not Poison Sting, it won't be a threat to our tanky tree.   Hmm, an interesting move, but I prefer the other one it can learn at level 32.   This is the last example of a starter having different evolution levels, since Gen 5 makes them more uniform for whatever reason. We'll go over all of them when we see the others, won't be too long.   That even shocked me a bit, so yeah, I got beat 'cause I was careless. Oh, yeah, I joined Mr. Wake as an apprentice! Like, I want my own theme song! I wonder when we'll next see him.   Like most middle stage starters, Etrian wasn't being too amazing. That's all sorted now since it just got two amazing moves and a big power boost just before a Water Gym. AhahahahahAHAHAHAHAHA! Pokemon Gym "Water-type Pokemon." I'd say you've got guts if you try to face down Water types with Fire- or Ground-type Pokemon! But that part I'll leave up to you! Go and have some good battles!  Every Gym from now on is unchanged from DP, so standard raising and lowering water level.   A future shonen protagonist.    Maybe I'll do like Wake, I mean, Crasher Wake, and wear the same kind of mask.    Ah crap, a Water type that stops my Electric type! Unlike Quagsire, Whiscash is fine with whichever side it has more readily available, so special. Sure, there's plenty of physical TMs, but considering its stats aren't too amazing, maybe other members work with them better. Besides, you can transition to physical later when it learns Aqua Tail and EQ. Also Future Sight. For some reason. Important to also consider Zen Headbutt and Waterfall, along with Ice Beam.   The water rising and falling is tricky, but don't let it annoy you. If you lose sight of yourself, that's when you're set to lose.   It's this Gym I've chosen to make my home! You can bet it's tough!  If you were to go around the world, I'm sure you'd meet tougher Pokemon.What a cute birb. It's a good thing this thing gets Shock Wave and Surf as its movepool is pretty bare otherwise. Wing Attack and Water Pulse will have to do, since Stockpile eats up slots, and you have to fit Fly and Defog in. At least when you're done with all that, you can go with Roost, Ice Beam or even Steel Wing. It's a weird mash, but when you're not given much to work with, you gotta.   The path is pretty simple, but I do like this weaving in and out design.   Well that's clearly not Huge Power. Azurill now doesn't have the uniqueness of STAB Huge Power and only offers stuff like Splash and Slam to its evolutions. Cool. Azumarill can hit really hard, but you wouldn't think so when all you have is Tackle and Rollout. Return is a must, as well as Waterfall, when you finally get it. The best option is Ice Punch from an upcoming tutor and Brick Break. It's a shame that Belly Drum is an egg move.   Maybe I'll do like Wake... I mean, Crasher Wake, and use the same kinds of Pokemon.  Man, so many fish are showing up, it's almost like they're the most common type. At least now it can use Waterfall without being too embarrassed about it, as well as getting a free Poison Jab from the relearner. Megahorn is way too late to think about and Return is the only good Normal move it gets, even when that's all the TMs it gets. And that's it. I mean, it's a fish. Try your luck with Horn Drill?   Confusion damage does so much lmao   I figure I got too wrapped up in fishing and neglected training.Was wondering when Gyarados would finally pop up. Always have an Electric move, since Gyarados is loving everywhere. It doesn't have much right now, but very shortly it'll learn Ice Fang and Aqua Tail, and even Dragon Dance later on, so don't underestimate it. Don't think it doesn't get good TMs by being a fish, that only applies to your favourites, as it gets EQ, Stone Edge and Avalanche, as well as a host of special moves it doesn't really care for. You know the Flying type is useless when you can ignore it, since you only learn Bounce, and coast by with all your other moves.   Now that's a trap if I ever saw one. Let's just press this switch.  There's a fair few trainers in this place, but it looks like we're nearly done.     See, you can use a fragile Rock type, you just gotta hope for a rubbish AI! Golduck is a simple Water type with some nice Psychic coverage. Well, Confusion for the most part, until you finally learn Zen Headbutt long after you need it. Oh well, that's what TMs are for, there's a nice mix of stuff for your nice mix of stats, from Psychic to Focus Blast, to Ice Beam and Surf. Alright, I just mentioned special moves, but they're just too good. Ice Punch and Zen Headbutt from tutors is also an option.   Riveting, it's Leader time, baby!   The glory you are now beholding is the Pastoria Gym Leader! That's right, I'm Crasher Wake! My Pokemon were toughened up by stormy white waters! They'll take everything you can throw at them and then pull you under! Victory will be ours! Come on, let's get it done! Gym Leader Battle   Crasher Wake: The Torrential Masked Master! Based on a lucha libre, whose masks hold special meaning to animals and gods, and to be unmasked for losing a fight holds great weight. From crashing wave, as well as a wake, triangular waves left by boats. Maximum Mask: Water Stream Maskman From Maxillaria, spider orchids, and his wrestler name.       Expected, but someone had to absorb the Intimidate. Wake, uh, I mean, Crasher Wake got quite the buff between games, much more than Maylene got. Still pretty similar, but now Gyarados is a lot scarier.   Oorgh! One the best things about Torterra, Wood Hammer's animation is fantastic!   Waterfall is still a bitch, but it would've been even more annoying after Intimidate.  Hey, we'll take it. At least it didn't have Ice Fang.   We know how dangerous, and fragile, Floatzel can be, and this thing can rip through our team with little trouble, so best to knock it out immediately. This game can be scary, yo!   Quagsire got a lot more interesting, dropping goddamn Mud Sport and Tail Whip.   Still, it's close, but our Speed will let us clinch it.   ...r-ref??? Isn't outside help illegal? No? Okay, phew, time to douse myself in healing items until I win, like I do every single battle.   Below the belt! That's just not cricket.  Only one way this battle could've ended.   It seems the undertow pulled me under... but I had a great time battling with you! You've earned this!    That TM55 contains the move Brine. It inflicts double the damage on targets with less than half their HP left. Use it to end battles decisively! The styles of battling and winning are as widely varied as Trainers are. Do you want to know how I battle? I battle so I can say I had fun at the end, whether I win or lose! So, how was it? Did you enjoy your battle against Wake... I mean Crasher Wake? Sure, winning is important, but don't forget to have fun, too! I think Wake... I mean Crasher Wake, showed you what I mean by fun. That's much better. Need to polish them every now and then, but we should only go all the way when we have the full set. Pastoria City Day What'd I tell you? Mr. Wake--I mean, the master--is pretty awesome, hey? Oh, Master! ...listen, kid. I know your father. I won't deny that. But I don't recall ever taking you on as an apprentice. Not in the least. Besides, you two don't need me. You can become strong on your own without being my apprentice. It doesn't matter. I made you my master! I decided! But forget that! There's trouble brewing! There's a Team Galactic goon in front of the Observatory Gate. He said something about using a bomb! WHAAAAT?! No one messes with Pastoria! Not on my watch! Hey! Master! Wait!  Whatever it is, it can wait, since we've got new stock! Not that Ultra Balls really matter in a mart where we can get both Dusk and Quick Balls, but I appreciate the effort.   Barry best rival, don't @ me!!!  What am I, chopped liver? Don't forget I'm here, too! So, where's this Galac...  YOU! What've you done?! What've I done, you're asking? Well, technically speaking, it wasn't me. The package that arrived, see, that was a bomb, named the Galactic Bomb. Me, I was told to push the button. So I did. Like, "Poink!" Oh, that's right! Mustn't forget! The test results need reporting!  You two! Do NOT follow me! Don't let anyone else in, either! There'd be big trouble if there's any of that bomb left! Hey! Hikari! You go after that Galactic goon! I'm staying here like Master said! Gotta keep others from going in! Don't let that Galactic guy get away! What's the matter?! Why aren't you gone already?! Go after that Galactic goon! I'm going, I'm going. Next time, it'll be an epic chase across the region, but we must catch up to that grunt! I hope he hasn't gone too far...
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Mini Notes 03: Safari Zone Catching Refresher So how exactly do we catch these Pocket Monsters in the Great Marsh? Well, if you've played a lot in the Johto's Safari Zone, then you already know, cause it's practically identical. Firstly, every Pokemon has a catch rate, which can be modified by the Safari Ball, since it's a x1.5 multiplier, as well as throwing mud or bait. Secondly, every Pokemon that can be found in the Great Marsh or the Safari Zone has a secret escape rate, which is the flat probability they'll flee from battle. This is set depending on the species and only applies to Pokemon found in these zones, as well as being the same across all Gen 4 games. Generally, Pokemon at higher evolutionary stages have lower escape rates and catch rates. At the start of the battle, the escape rate and catch rate is set to the species' default and if you throw bait, the escape rate is lowered by one stage, but there is a 90% chance of the catch rate being lowered by one stage as well. Similarly, by throwing mud, the catch rate is raised by one stage, but there's a 90% chance the escape rate will be raised also. The rates are lowered and raised in an identical way to stat changes, by -6 or +6, so you'll be receiving diminishing returns the more you go. Just remember that it uses the formula of the five stats and not the accuracy/evasion multipliers. So a Pokemon at +2 will have their catch or escape rate multiplied by 4/2, while being at +6 will multiply it by 8/2. Similarly, a Pokemon at -4 will have their rates multiplied by 2/6. At the end of each turn, a random number between 0 and 255 is generated and if it's less than the modified escape rate, then the Pokemon flees. When throwing a Safari Ball, the modified catch rate is put into the Gen 4 catching formula and it works it out from there if the Pokemon is caught. All very fascinating sciencey stuff I'm sure. But that's how to catch Pokemon in both the Sinnoh Great Marsh and the Johto Safari Zone.
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Crosspeice posted:Very important to come here as soon as you can if you've got a male Kirlia waiting to shine in the next Gym battle. Only available in Plat, since both Gallade and Froslass aren't in the Sinnoh Dex in DP, but you get two later anyway, as well as from Pickup.  They made two of the new pokemon exclusive to the postgame in Diamond & Pearl? Why?Crosspeice posted:Now I'm catching everything so easily, it's almost like I got super frustrated and turned on an instant catch cheat. But that doesn't sound like me. Crosspeice posted:Oh there we go. We've still got some things to do, so we'll head right back in. But since DP obviously didn't have the expansion mons of Yanma, Tangela and Tropius, what exciting Pokemon could you encounter? Well, how about Starly, Bidoof and Budew! Source: I had to play this stupid minigame to get a yanma for my recent HG run, because it's a 1% chance to appear in HGSS, and you need to breed it if you want poo poo like signal beam anyways 
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Blaziken386 posted:Wait, what? "two" Magnezone, Lickilicky, Rhyperior, Tangrowth, Electivire, Magmortar, Togekiss, Yanmega, Leafeon, Glaceon, Gliscor, Mamoswine, Porygon-Z, Probopass, Dusknoir and Rotom were also postgame-only in DP. GameFreak make baffling decisions on a regular basis.
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Jun 24, 2019 22:52
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gently caress the Safari Zone.
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Blaziken386 posted:Wait, what? It's a Pokemon tradition that even generations just don't want you using the new stuff. See: Johto locking every Dark type but Umbreon to Kanto, as well as some other new mons, or Kalos giving you very few Mega Stones before the postgame. With Dynamaxing being an universal thing, I can't imagine how Game Freak will keep loving this up, but they will find a way. I know they will. Also yeah, this Safari Zone is terrible. Safari Zones always are, but Sinnoh gets the prize for the worst of them all which is a goddamn accomplishment. Whoever thought the marsh was a good idea deserves to get fired. If they also were behind fog, double fired.
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Blaze Dragon posted:With Dynamaxing being an universal thing, I can't imagine how Game Freak will keep loving this up, but they will find a way. I know they will. They said something about the new gym/arena thingies being build on special places that allow for Dynamaxing. So these will probably be the only places you can do that in - until the post-game where the energy gets released into the wild. Maybe you can even only dynamax when facing a gym leader, so a total of eight times throughout the story (and maybe a ninth time against the evil team leader). This would of course mean the co-op raids are post-game only as well.
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I am so glad the ystopped doing the safari zone because it was always bad and their attempts to change it up were also bad. the marsh may be the nadir of the concept.Blaze Dragon posted:
Dynamaxing can only be done in gym fights (mmmaybe the whole gym?), the league, online and in max raid battles. The in-universe reasoning is you need to be in arenas designed for it (thus: stadiums and the max raidzone), though I'm guessing other notable fights will also be dynamax-compatible like against the evil team and later rival battles. But it's fine, half the dex wont be able to dynamax anyway Because they don't exist
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Wait. Why is it "What will"name" throw?" instead of "What will you throw?"
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Why do people assume that half the dex is being cut? All we know is that not all of them are getting in.
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SirSamVimes posted:Why do people assume that half the dex is being cut? All we know is that not all of them are getting in. Because something bad but vague was said therefore we must assume the absolute worst and it will definitely happen.
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Blaziken386 posted:Wait, what? Remember when Houndour, Murkrow, and Misdreavus were only available in Kanto?
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SirSamVimes posted:Why do people assume that half the dex is being cut? All we know is that not all of them are getting in. The largest regional dex in the series is XY with 457 (450 + 3 event legends + 4 kanto legends) and that seems like a cut off for their given reason of "balance" (rollin' my eyes here) & animations (rollin' my eyes for different reasosn). Maybe 500 or so? I would be very surprised if the Galar dex reached I don't know... 600? And even then we'll probably get to around 900 pokemon so that'd still leave out almost a third of all pokemon, which like...that's not much better than missing about half? if it is a really big number in the dex, like only missing maybe ~100 pokemon, then they really should have given numbers while tearfully talking about this and giving interviews because while cutting pokemon is still kinda dumb 100(ish) is a lot easier to swallow than the over 400 that everyone lept to. Blaze Dragon posted:Because something bad but vague was said therefore we must assume the absolute worst and it will definitely happen. But even I can't be that pessimistic
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Thank gently caress the Safari Zone never returned after this. Having to go through several dice rolls just to get a mon (finding one and then catching one) is just utterly awful.quote:This is the last example of a starter having different evolution levels, since Gen 5 makes them more uniform for whatever reason. We'll go over all of them when we see the others, won't be too long. Yeah, evolution levels for starters got uniform after Gen IV. Most likely because this ends up being a terrible in-game balancing point because being stuck with terrible stats for longer than intended on the game's power curve just sucks. (Pokemon Uranium is an example of how this can go horribly wrong due to how that fangame decided to handle its starters.)
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I saw a vid by someone who hypothesized that, because annual revenue numbers say much more of The Pokemon Company's income came from Go in the last couple years than from Nintendo games, they're shifting their focus a bit to shorter mobile experiences, meaning Gamefreak has less say within The Pokemon Company, meaning Gamefreak made the sensible business decision of putting more resources in non-Pokemon games, with the result that they have less resources/people/time available for Pokemon games, and this is the real reason for them cutting stuff. I don't know if any of this is true but if this is the way Pokemon is going I fear for the future of the main series.
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Carbon dioxide posted:I saw a vid by someone who hypothesized that, because annual revenue numbers say much more of The Pokemon Company's income came from Go in the last couple years than from Nintendo games, they're shifting their focus a bit to shorter mobile experiences, meaning Gamefreak has less say within The Pokemon Company, meaning Gamefreak made the sensible business decision of putting more resources in non-Pokemon games, with the result that they have less resources/people/time available for Pokemon games, and this is the real reason for them cutting stuff. I have to call BS on this, because Game Freak has worked on other non-Pokemon games quite a few times. And while Go is a moneymaker, so are the mainline games. They've made billions off of the mainlines alone.
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Jun 25, 2019 07:06
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What the gently caress is dynamaxing?
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Jun 25, 2019 09:11
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Simply Simon posted:What the gently caress is dynamaxing? New battle gimmick for Gen 8, ala Mega Evolution and Z moves. Makes your Pokemon giant for 3 turns, giving them an HP boost and powering up all its moves.
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Jun 25, 2019 09:15
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In my day all our pokeymans had was tackle and tail whip. And you know what? We liked it! 
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Jun 25, 2019 11:38
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Slaan posted:In my day all our pokeymans had was tackle and tail whip. And you know what? We liked it! Fire spin.
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Jun 25, 2019 12:39
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Slaan posted:In my day all our pokeymans had was tackle and tail whip. And you know what? We liked it!
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Jun 25, 2019 12:55
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Fire spin. Wrap all day, every day
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Jun 25, 2019 12:59
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Simply Simon posted:Oh, I'm not like that, I just thought this was maybe a Gen 4 thing I didn't know about because I don't do PvP or whatever. I don't watch movie trailers, why should I watch game trailers? No, I wasn't attacking you. I was just making fun of how much things have changed in Pokemon over the last 20 years and how that makes your average goon The Olds now 
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Jun 25, 2019 14:13
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Simply Simon posted:What the gently caress is dynamaxing? Game Freak Executive 1: OK, we've had Mega Evolutions, Z Moves, and Totem Pokémon. What do we do next? Game Freak Executive 2: Well, Mega Evolutions weren't bad, but the other two were pretty stupid... to top those, we need to go bigger... Game Freak Executive 1: I LOVE IT! We'll call it... Maximons... No! Dynamicly Large... WAIT! DYNAMAXING! It's the latest dumb gimmick for Gen 8.
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Jun 25, 2019 14:40
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I got real lucky in this SZ. I encountered a shiny Budew (my first legit shiny) and I was able to catch it without it running away.
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mateo360 posted:I got real lucky in this SZ. I encountered a shiny Budew (my first legit shiny) and I was able to catch it without it running away. Congrats on that; Shiny catches in Safari Zones are always harder than actual catches. And the first legit shiny is always the best.
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Jun 25, 2019 18:57
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rannum posted:They specifically said that only the Galar region pokedex pokemon will be transferrable. They've also said that is their intent with games moving forward, and trying to prop up Home as where your pokemon can always be available otherwise. Now, if Nintendo does the stupid thing and starts releasing the excluded Pokemon in paid DLC packs, only then would I begin to have issues with this format.
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Jun 26, 2019 04:55
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Yeah, as long as it's, "well we know people don't like these mons so let's not waste time modeling them" and not "pay $1.99 for Charmander and $3.99 for Mewtwo" I'm fine with the entire goddamn pokedex not being in Gen 8.
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Jun 26, 2019 05:04
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AradoBalanga posted:To be honest, the Pokemon franchise has reached a point where it would make sense to start dropping off the less popular 'mons and go with "new regional 'mons and a 'greatest hits' selection of the previous gens" for Pokedexes in the future. The franchise has ballooned to the point where keeping everything in each successive game is going to increase the workload at an equal amount. Plus, it would let the newer Pokemon have a chance to stand out and make their mark instead of competing with previous 'mons. This is why I love the Unova Pokedex, because it did exactly that: have it be primarily the new Unova Pokemon while the previous 'mons are part of the National Pokedex. And since Nintendo said at E3 this year that they want to do what they can to not put too much pressure on its employees for future products, if that means a smaller Pokedex in future games, then let them do that. Outside of the original RBY games and Platinum (since Rowan only asks for you to see Pokemon, not catch them), I have never filled out a full Pokedex in the games I have played. I would rather have a smaller/condensed Pokedex with less 'mons to worry about than having to collect and find nearly ONE THOUSAND unique species because I am not the player who cares about Pokedex completion. Shoot BW2 & XY only had the pokemon in its pokedex. SM was similar, though it had another 84 extras from Island Scan. Generaly those regional veterans are the ones that get tweaks to their movepools while the remainder stays mostly static but with TM compatibility updated and an extra move here and there thrown in.So regionals are very much the focus. Starting with XY, there was also a delayed period of time put in between a game coming out and compatibility with Bank being added, to have those last longer. And the first year or 2 of VGCs always limited pokemon to what's in the regional dex. They have been putting ways to keep the focus on the readily available Pokemon, especially the new ones, for a while now The difference is now the rest of the Pokemon wont ever be there, where as before you still got to mess around with them and trade them around and go online if you wanted, provided you transferred them over. I'm someone who loves filling out the pokedex and loves to bring in old guys for some other playthroughs that I dont get a chance to and loves just messing around with my older Pokemon in a new setting. So the idea of going goign "eh no one cares about these, lets just ignore them" is both very subjective and also weirdly dismissive. I've seen even casual fans get upset by this so its not just the grognard portion of the community probably looking for any excuse to sling abuse at the staff Commander Keene posted:Yeah, as long as it's, "well we know people don't like these mons so let's not waste time modeling them" and not "pay $1.99 for Charmander and $3.99 for Mewtwo" I'm fine with the entire goddamn pokedex not being in Gen 8. well now it's lets not waste time adding ???? animations* and please pay probably $5 a year to use Home (ideally not a separate subscription from Bank becaue then it's $10 to transfer up which wow), to keep half your pokemon until a pokemon game comes out where you can use them again. Honestly I wouldn't mind paying for the remainder of the Pokemon to be added as DLC provided it was one lump sum. They have to touch them eventually anyway, paying for their work now just expedites it in a more stress free instance for later projects provided they dont keep going "what if we did more animations?!" anyway look i get it long term it is never going to matter, they have no reason to ever go back on it because it will never affect game sales, gamefreak in general is probably on pokeburnout considering they have team 2 doing their own projects, gamefreak is bizarrely small for the franchise their behind and pokemon is now on an eternal yearly march so time is tight and blah blah blah but it still sucks and i'm still mad at video games designed for dumb babies *the models are the same but with new textures and most of the animations are the same as well, as from when they made them in XY and added walking animations in SM. There seem to be a few extra animations to their standard set here and there but if there's more substnatial ones it's saved for the pokemonamie/refresh type thing which they probably should have shown off before talking about gutting the pokedex. It probably wont be until gen 10 before they have to completely redo all the models again, they made these things to last.
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Anyway sorry for dragging this to the General Pokemon Zone again here's an image of a tiny child Roark getting a fossil from his dad The anime really loved the gen 4 leaders, using them for a bunch of episodes and havign fun thing like child flashbacks or Gardenia losing her mind over every grass type with a pulse and crasher wake leading a croagunk festival. I've been meaning to talk about them next but i keep forgetting and now there's 5 of them to talk about!
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Jun 26, 2019 06:24
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If they trim old stuff for workload reasons and still add a bunch of sidequests and dudes that are only accessible during a tiny time window that would be incredibly sad.
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Jun 26, 2019 14:50
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rannum posted:Gardenia losing her mind over every grass type with a pulse Wasn't there an episode where she had someone's Bulbasaur Vine Whip her back repeatedly while getting some kind of weird enjoyment out of it? 
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Jun 26, 2019 17:52
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There's a lot I could talk about with the Sinnoh portion of the anime. I thought it was legitimately very good not just for Pokemon, but on its own merits. When Twitch did their Pokemon marathon recently I thought it wouldn't hold up because I was still in my very early teens when I watched it on Cartoon Network but I thought it was great.
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Jun 26, 2019 18:27
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I haven't seen much of Sinnoh, but I remember being impressed how Ash seemed more competent as a trainer than in previous seasons. Particularly in the Pokemon League where he counters a Darkrai by teaching his Heracross Sleep Talk so it could get off a surprise Megahorn. Too bad he wasn't allowed to win that fight. 
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Jun 26, 2019 18:35
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Wasn't there an episode where she had someone's Bulbasaur Vine Whip her back repeatedly while getting some kind of weird enjoyment out of it? Her introductory episode has her going nuts over Ash's turtwig, get hella enjoyment out of Cacnea using pinmissile on her, gets her head bitten off by Carnivine and praises it all the while she's a grass type nut
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Jun 26, 2019 19:16
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rannum posted:Her introductory episode has her going nuts over Ash's turtwig, get hella enjoyment out of Cacnea using pinmissile on her, gets her head bitten off by Carnivine and praises it all the while A Grassochist
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The Golux posted:A Grassochist
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