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whydirt posted:Dune but a workplace comedy on NBC What’s the deal with heighliner food?
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:I think part of it is that the communities of a post-silicon space fuedalist society don't really resemble urban civilizations as we currently know them, in all their interconnected global trade and population boom, but rather the medievalism of clade societies that live within proximity to each other and still exercise raw and localised human power relations. The difference being that overly complex societies are short-lived, precarious, and abstracted while every house in the known Dune universe has a much longer perception of time and intergenerational power dynamics, and is therefore humming along in a very slow but steady pattern of social modification. Just a thought; maybe someone can add to this in a more coherent way. That's a great summary. It also brings home just how big planets are, and how difficult it actually is to write multi-planet fiction that doesn't treat "planet" as a synonym for "city" or "biome"... It's interesting too how our world is built on the promise of endless growth and technological change. But the Duniverse is a place where the only way to get a bigger slice of the pie is to manoeuvre your neighbour into dropping their own plate. It results in the distinctive unpleasant atmosphere of the Dune series.
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whydirt posted:Dune but a workplace comedy on NBC Usul has called a big one That's what she said
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"Salt's reclaimed. Motions of the body, especially breathing and some osmotic action provide the pumping force. Reclaimed water circulates to catchpockets from which you draw it through this tube in the clip at your neck... Urine and feces are processed in the thigh pads." "Could I BE wearing anymore clothes?" so noone told you life was gonna be this wayyy clapclapclapclapclap
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"I'm Biff Stilgar, Assistant Galactic Emperor." "Assistant to the Galactic Emperor."
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The Cubelodyte posted:Two and a Half Fremen Winner
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RBA Starblade posted:I wonder exactly how much it sucks to be the average person on Dune. A lot obviously, but specifically how lovely it is to be some accountant while superhuman calculators and robot eyed dudes and seemingly psychic blue eyed jerks are telling you you're about to gently caress up three minutes from now while your witch of a manager is halfassedly watching you do it whole plotting how to get to the break room to get the rest of the spice coffee before anyone notices so she doesn't have to brew more Old Frank knows when the masters start talking about profit-to-loss ratios and Six Sigma and other corporate bullshit, it's time to spend a month or so head-down in the axlotl farm detail cleaning, or at least until some quiet interpersonal kanly gets taken care of and HR is introducing the new VP of something or other. Not that he minds anyways, he occasionally cleans the head office breakroom late at night and swipes a case of Caladan Blue spice coffee. And tonight, he's nestled in a warm spot between two tanks, coffee pot hooked to one of the respiratory line power feeds, box of donuts at hand and a copy of the latest BG Bitches. He flips to the centerfold and whistles.
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So, you know how the tanks have certain... features? Those ones which bring certain thoughts to mind when one’s hopped up on spice coffee? Looking at solidos of Magnus Volupta Pussaia’s wasn’t enough for Frank that night. That year the Duncans came out all wrong.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:So how are the ways "no computers/AI" and "no nukes" affect ability to genocide? Well we actually know they have Nukes since "The Family Atomics" are repeatedly mentioned and treated as an important resource that even families in exile won't give up. So Nuking people is presumably still on the table, though I assume you toss it out of an Ornithopter Enola Gay style.
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It's not at all clear how the no computers rule works in Dune because it was written in the early '60s when computers were only used for huge computation tasks and weren't ubiquitous in every last simple home appliance and industrial machine like they are now. The best, simplest answer is that in the Dune universe the definition of computer is totally different from ours. Take the ornithopters: they're a cool sci-fi sounding thing but they're also the least efficient way to build a flying machine possible. Building machinery to replicate the way bird wings work is hideously complicated and would presumably need what we call fly-by-wire computers to operate. There's no reason the thopters in Dune would be any different, but I guess that type of mechanical regulation isn't considered a computer.
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The other thing is that they already had an interstellar civilisation and all the requisite technology base before the Jihad and thus had access to alternatives like Spice, Mentats and alien flora to develop new tech out of.
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Perhaps these bits from God Emperor will help clarify things on how machines work and are understood in Dune: "“And you do not fear the Ixians’ machine?” Anteac insisted. “Is automation synonymous with conscious intelligence?” he asked. ...She spoke: “The machine cannot anticipate every problem of importance to humans. It is the difference between serial bits and an unbroken continuum. We have the one; machines are confined to the other.” “You still have the power of reason,” he said. “The target of the Jihad was a machine-attitude as much as the machines,” Leto said. “Humans had set those machines to usurp our sense of beauty, our necessary selfdom out of which we make living judgments. Naturally, the machines were destroyed.” “An Ixian machine? You defy the Jihad!” “There’s a lesson in that, too. What do such machines really do? They increase the number of things we can do without thinking. Things we do without thinking—there’s the real danger."
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Butlerian Jihad was to destroy askjeeves.com
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I just read the synopsis of the Butlerian Jihad novel on Wikipedia and loving lol Xavier Harkonnen sounds like a Mary Sue harkonnen based solely on his super cool X-name, which is not a lame, dumb name like Brian, no- it is the name of a strong and virile man.
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kiimo posted:"Salt's reclaimed. Motions of the body, especially breathing and some osmotic action provide the pumping force. Reclaimed water circulates to catchpockets from which you draw it through this tube in the clip at your neck... Urine and feces are processed in the thigh pads." Named for the Second Moon, You teach the Weirding Waaay It's like your mama said, "I must not fear" But when you're trapped out on the open erg, the bled, or the sareeeer
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Dune but a 90s infomercial on a public access cable channel
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Dune the t-shirt Dune the lunchbox Dune the coloring book Dune the breakfast cereal
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whydirt posted:Dune but a Saturday morning cartoon from the 1980s Hunters/Sandworms is basically this
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The Bloop posted:Dune the breakfast cereal Bitter cinnamon toast crunch
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Vlex posted:Bitter cinnamon toast crunch
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Vlex posted:Bitter cinnamon toast crunch "Spice up your breakfast!"
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IIIIIIIIIIT'S KANLY!
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Vlex posted:Bitter cinnamon toast crunch It’s the taste they can see when they turn the inward eye to mark its passage
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You don't have to be prescient to know it's gonna taste great!
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whydirt posted:Dune but a Saturday morning cartoon from the 1980s I'm honestly kinda surprised this never happened considering what DID get cartoons in the 80s.
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The Bloop posted:Dune the t-shirt  
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Nickelodeon’s “Double Dune”
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Leaked pics of Villeneuve ornithopter https://twitter.com/JnAviPhoto/status/1143947711009435650
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The Bloop posted:Dune the breakfast cereal So dry and unpleasant, it must be good for you!
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm honestly kinda surprised this never happened considering what DID get cartoons in the 80s. Considering the people running Washington in those times, it would've had to have been a show about the noble empire fighting for freedom against the dirty desert rats. We were pro-apartheid back then, after all.
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umm i want these super bad!
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phasmid posted:Considering the people running Washington in those times, it would've had to have been a show about the noble empire fighting for freedom against the dirty desert rats. We were pro-apartheid back then, after all. Nah, the Harkonnens are Soviet, Fremen are mujahideen, Arrakis is Afghanistan and Paul is Rambo, obviously
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Nah, the Harkonnens are Soviet, Fremen are mujahideen, Arrakis is Afghanistan and Paul is Rambo, obviously It's a shameful Fremen who lets his foe draw first blood. 
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