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I've been trying to punch the sun behind me for several hours, no progress yet
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Jun 28, 2019 21:51
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Spermando posted:I need some clarification on a couple of things that happened in today's episode. I assume the plan is when Diavolo claims the arrow, that will destroy Requiem and return his soul to his original body, which hasn't been punched yet.
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Jun 28, 2019 21:55
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Does that mean three more recap episodes? Ironically it’s probably the 3 recap episodes we’ve already had that have lost them their timeslot by overrunning the series.
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Jun 28, 2019 22:39
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The way I always imagined it is that damaging your Stand is damaging the soul, and the damage transfers to the body. But when there's two souls in one body, punching a hole through one soul transfers only half the damage to the body as the soul only has dominion over half the body. So Spice Girl takes 100% of the damage while both Mista's body and King Crimson takes 50%.
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Jun 28, 2019 22:53
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King Crimson is the most overpowered piece of poo poo on earth, this part loving sucks
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Jun 28, 2019 23:46
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Im enjoying it. It has a very classic unexpected last fight escalation (emergence of demons? wtf?) that ups the stakes and has wild wacky art. None of this series is on the level. It's bizzare and it's great.
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Jun 29, 2019 01:09
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My Jojo prediction was right, I figured he was sharing a body with Trish 
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Jun 29, 2019 01:25
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Like we've had OP stands before but they were at least attached to good villains Diavolo is just a boring piece of poo poo so he isn't even fun to hate, he's just bad.
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Jun 29, 2019 01:30
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Diavolo would be much more intimidating if this body swapping gimmick didnt completely undermine his physical presence. Diavolo's body has had more screentime being inhabited by Buccaretti than Diavolo himself.
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Jun 29, 2019 01:46
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Honestly it seems a lot like diavolo IS king crimson
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Jun 29, 2019 02:02
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Which I guess makes sense since right now he’s a soul without a body but with a stand
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Jun 29, 2019 02:11
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part 5 is (relatively) bad because the secondary antagonists far outshine both the protagonists as well as diavolo. bruno and giorno are basically "cool competent guys who sometimes freak out but quickly regain their composure" and might as well be the same character. Diavolo is just whatever compared to those that come before and after him. Trish is also woefully underutilized., and the first half has one or two many allies.
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Jun 29, 2019 02:36
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Grapplejack posted:Like we've had OP stands before but they were at least attached to good villains If it makes you feel any better the rest of Jojo’s villains are excellent.
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Jun 29, 2019 02:44
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Thumbtacks posted:Honestly it seems a lot like diavolo IS king crimson For all intents and purposes, that has basically been the case for most of this part. It's not often we get a full idea of what a Stand can do before we meet the user.
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Jun 29, 2019 02:52
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:For all intents and purposes, that has basically been the case for most of this part. It's not often we get a full idea of what a Stand can do before we meet the user. Yeah, Diavolo is almost more a creepy, implacable force than a real man, and doesn't give a poo poo about his body or other personality, so it makes total sense he'd feel most comfortable embodied purely through his stand. King Crimson is sheer power, and privacy and stability are his obsessions, but power is the only thing Diavolo really cares about or identifies with. On that note, I love how just as soon as we see the Boss's real form, said form starts running around as one of the good guys right out in broad daylight.
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Jun 29, 2019 03:13
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comedyblissoption posted:The interpretation I like is that the arrow or stands bestow powers that are a manifestation of a user's inner desires, especially at that moment. Like Bite Za Dusto is a perfect manifestation of David Bowie's heart and worries at that very moment. What I'm trying to say here is polnareff really wanted to be a turtle. That fan theory really irritates me because Polnareff's selflessness and his sense of justice have been his defining traits for as long as we've known him. There are two times when other people die to save his life (and one time where a person has the appearance of doing so) and each time, Polnareff grieves for them and says that he should have died, not them. I really don't believe that Polnareff would, on any level, wish for a power like Silver Chariot Requiem, which is an uncontrollable stand with an extremely high potential for collateral damage, up to the point of (Episode 36 spoiler)being on the verge of eradicating life as we know it on Earth
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Jun 29, 2019 03:15
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Daxing Dan posted:That fan theory really irritates me because Polnareff's selflessness and his sense of justice have been his defining traits for as long as we've known him. There are two times when other people die to save his life (and one time where a person has the appearance of doing so) and each time, Polnareff grieves for them and says that he should have died, not them. I really don't believe that Polnareff would, on any level, wish for a power like Silver Chariot Requiem, which is an uncontrollable stand with an extremely high potential for collateral damage, up to the point of (Episode 36 spoiler)being on the verge of eradicating life as we know it on Earth His wish was to protect the arrow. The issue with Requiem is that Polnareff can't control it. Like it's not a subconscious issue, He is just too weak at this point to control Requiem and so it's gone berserk and is using the power of the arrow to threaten the world.
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Jun 29, 2019 04:21
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Plus the whole requiem thing is clearly an entirely different process than what normally happens when the arrow pierces a person. Chariot Requiem doesnt even register Polnareff as a stand user let alone it's stand user why would it be a manifestation of any part of him. He managed to order it to protect the arrow before he lost control but thats all hes got.
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Jun 29, 2019 04:31
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ok that one hurt my head but i just cant gosh dangit Trish hang in there girl 
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Jun 29, 2019 05:04
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I've read the rest of the series without reading part 5 and punching the sun soul on the back of your head makes no loving sense, still cool poo poo though
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Jun 29, 2019 05:07
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IDONTPOST posted:I've read the rest of the series without reading part 5 and punching the sun soul on the back of your head makes no loving sense, still cool poo poo though Just imagine a shadow creating the light that frames it instead of the light creating the shadow that obscures it. Requiem is the real "It Just Works" poo poo
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Jun 29, 2019 05:33
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Daxing Dan posted:That fan theory really irritates me because Polnareff's selflessness and his sense of justice have been his defining traits for as long as we've known him. There are two times when other people die to save his life (and one time where a person has the appearance of doing so) and each time, Polnareff grieves for them and says that he should have died, not them. I really don't believe that Polnareff would, on any level, wish for a power like Silver Chariot Requiem, which is an uncontrollable stand with an extremely high potential for collateral damage, up to the point of (Episode 36 spoiler)being on the verge of eradicating life as we know it on Earth Nah, it's a monkey's paw type idea. The thing he wanted more than anything at the moment was a way to stop Diavolo from getting the arrow, so his stand became hyper focused on protecting the arrow at all costs and would even turn people's stands against themselves. Presumably if he didn't lose control of Silver Chariot, which is implied to be because getting super hosed up by Diavolo left him weakened and unable to use his stand properly anymore, he'd be able to use Silver Chariot Requiem without loving everyone up.
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Jun 29, 2019 05:54
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Also I was gonna say a moment ago "man why didn't Jotaro introduce Polnareff to Josuke and fix him up" but I realized Polnareff went deep underground after his Diavolo encounter to avoid giving away that he survived didn't he?
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Jun 29, 2019 05:57
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Well uh. With Chariot Requiem getting blown to bits by KC destroying the sun behind his head does this mean that the Requiem powers stop working and people will get swapped back? I mean we do see Diavolos original body fight with Giorno in the OP, sooooooo...
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Jun 29, 2019 06:41
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Glagha posted:Nah, it's a monkey's paw type idea. The thing he wanted more than anything at the moment was a way to stop Diavolo from getting the arrow, so his stand became hyper focused on protecting the arrow at all costs and would even turn people's stands against themselves. Presumably if he didn't lose control of Silver Chariot, which is implied to be because getting super hosed up by Diavolo left him weakened and unable to use his stand properly anymore, he'd be able to use Silver Chariot Requiem without loving everyone up. I realize that Silver Chariot Requiem itself just mindlessly attempts to protect the arrow, but I just don't think its powers came about as a specific response to that. While Polnareff is hiding on the farm, under no particular pressure or immediate threat, he still gets the same Chariot Requiem that starts by putting people to sleep. It just seems to be his thing.
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Jun 29, 2019 06:42
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Between Cheap Trick and Superfly it's not as if uncontrollable stands that are not what you wanted are a new thing.
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Jun 29, 2019 07:02
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Does it even matter? What's important is that the only way to beat a bullshit stand like KC was to pull a bullshit checkmate and make the world break itself, mostly by accident. P cool imo.
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Jun 29, 2019 07:32
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Ok what the gently caress was that. I mean, I don't need an explanation, in theory I understand everything that happened. Just... What the gently caress. It's like Araki had ideas and he just decided to cram them all in into the final arc. I guess this is a cool bullshit climax for a part with so much (very entertaining, don't get me wrong) bullshit
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Jun 29, 2019 08:44
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I agree with everyone saying this part sucks and Diavolo and King Crimson suck and the convolutedness of it all takes the fun out of it. Really feels like the author was writing by the seat of his pants
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Jun 29, 2019 08:54
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King crimson is cool, diavolo is not. If the big twist was king crimson is a sentient stand like Anubis was and diavolo is just some rear end in a top hat he stuck himself to I'd love this part way more.
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Jun 29, 2019 08:59
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we all have suns behind us and let's give this baby 8 eyes for no reason oh and you can punch the sun and it explodes I assume baby works the same way
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Jun 29, 2019 08:59
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Archenteron posted:Just imagine a shadow creating the light that frames it instead of the light creating the shadow that obscures it. This actually explains it better than anything else I’ve seen
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Jun 29, 2019 09:21
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I like how it goes unremarked both in the plot and by the characters that Diavolo beat Chariot Requiem by punching and destroying his own soul, which was a magical lightbulb behind his head.
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Jun 29, 2019 09:26
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Archenteron posted:Just imagine a shadow creating the light that frames it instead of the light creating the shadow that obscures it. these words together mean nothing but it's cool as hell the boss is a big strong smart dude
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Jun 29, 2019 09:34
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Jun 29, 2019 09:57
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Metallica is such a nightmarish fight. Triple so when animated. I cried loving hard at Abacchio's death. MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Jun 29, 2019 |
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Jun 29, 2019 10:17
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I love distressed epitaph. King Crimson is a goldmine of reaction images.
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Jun 29, 2019 10:36
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It's a shame there's so much bullshit in the episode, because Giorno using the blood he left behind when his arm was severed to create termites that destroy the arrow shaft is a pretty cool and logical use of Gold Experience for once. I mean King Crimson is a ghost so neither the ants nor blood should even be able to touch him but, y'know, good try.
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Jun 29, 2019 11:39
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Gold Experience already touched the blood, so now it's magic blood that can touch ghosts.
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Jun 29, 2019 11:56
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Metallica is such a nightmarish fight. Triple so when animated. His death was so stupid though. We'll leave you completely unguarded while you do the incredibly important task that leaves you completely open to attack while we... search the area for clues.
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Jun 29, 2019 11:56
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