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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Koalas March posted:There is also a huge amount of privilege thrown in a lot of those posts holy moly Trans women here, a part of the demographic that literally has directly discriminatory laws/executive orders on the books against them. People shouldn’t be guilted into supporting the corrupt and immoral Democratic Party just because our entire political system is a hosed up sophie’s choice. Oh but what do I know, not like I have skin in the game /s edit: I’m also diabetic and have a disability, and 80% of democratic candidates would happily let me die for being poor so I’m a little tired of lesser evil bullshit unwantedplatypus fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jun 29, 2019 |
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I imagine a lot of “gently caress Biden “ people itt will be cowardly voting for him next year because “have you seen orange Cheeto man “
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Jun 29, 2019 15:50
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Punk da Bundo posted:I imagine a lot of “gently caress Biden “ people itt will be cowardly voting for him next year because “have you seen orange Cheeto man “ most of the scum here will vote Trump actually, when bernie get nominated (inshallah) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 29, 2019 15:51
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Phi230 posted:most of the scum here will vote Trump actually, when bernie get nominated (inshallah) inshallah
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Jun 29, 2019 15:52
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This is the same loving bullshit I had to deal with in 2016 because lol berniebros (sure do love being called a man for wanting to not die) amirite?
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Jun 29, 2019 15:52
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Phi230 posted:I only wish Bernie would throw you where you belong You wanna meet me on the streets sometime, rear end in a top hat? I'll show you where the gently caress you belong. Go ahead and probe me, mods. gently caress this place. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 29, 2019 15:56
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VH4Ever posted:You wanna meet me on the streets sometime, rear end in a top hat? I'll show you where the gently caress you belong. turn you're monitor on Phi230 fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jun 29, 2019 |
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Jun 29, 2019 15:57
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VH4Ever posted:You wanna meet me on the streets sometime, rear end in a top hat? I'll show you where the gently caress you belong. Lol, lmao even
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Jun 29, 2019 15:58
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I agree to a certain length with “Vote Blue No Matter Who”. There’s just two problems that that kind of thinking can lead to. One, it can lead to a serious level of uncritical thinking towards the primary candidates. I see it on message boards when a negative Biden article pops up. “Hey, a cheese sandwich would be better than Trump. I’ll support whoever isn’t Trump in the general.” The problem is that the entire field of Dem candidates are “not Trump”, so focus your efforts on picking the best one and really examine their pros and cons. Two, it can lead to apathy. “We did it! Trump lost! Now I can go back to not thinking about politics. See you in four years!” Even If Bernie or Warren won the general, we all need to keep fighting and not slack when it comes to this poo poo. I’m ok with “Vote Blue No Matter Who” as long as we don’t fall into the traps I stated above.
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Jun 29, 2019 15:59
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VH4Ever posted:You wanna meet me on the streets sometime, rear end in a top hat? I'll show you where the gently caress you belong. Meltdown May has been over for a while, buddy.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Meltdown May has been over for a while, buddy. Sure. Let's get gulags for everyone. Such productive discussion in here. gently caress the lot of you right now. Except KM.
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Jun 29, 2019 16:01
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Tbh it is Sophie's choice and throwing your hands up, letting things worse because you're not getting what you want, hurts a lot more people and makes no loving sense I would rather things stay status quo than get worse because worse is loving worse
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Jun 29, 2019 16:03
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volts5000 posted:I agree to a certain length with “Vote Blue No Matter Who”. There’s just two problems that that kind of thinking can lead to. Agreed. I'm going to do my best to support an actual progressive candidate getting the Democrat nomination, but I think that, if it came down to it would be an abuse of my privilege to protest vote by supporting Trump, either overtly or by not voting for the nominated candidate.
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volts5000 posted:I agree to a certain length with “Vote Blue No Matter Who”. There’s just two problems that that kind of thinking can lead to. This is exactly how I feel tbh
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Jun 29, 2019 16:04
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Agreed. Biden 2020.
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VH4Ever posted:Sure. Let's get gulags for everyone. Such productive discussion in here. gently caress the lot of you right now. Except KM. A sixer is a timeout, not a gulag, you dork.
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Jun 29, 2019 16:13
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volts5000 posted:I’m ok with “Vote Blue No Matter Who” as long as we don’t fall into the traps I stated above. Koalas March posted:This is exactly how I feel tbh This is the kind of reasonable posting that makes me think I visited the wrong forum by mistake.
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Jun 29, 2019 16:14
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Koalas March posted:Tbh it is Sophie's choice and throwing your hands up, letting things worse because you're not getting what you want, hurts a lot more people and makes no loving sense
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Jun 29, 2019 16:14
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Koalas March posted:Tbh it is Sophie's choice and throwing your hands up, letting things worse because you're not getting what you want, hurts a lot more people and makes no loving sense Well, that's fair, but the problem is that the status quo is literally unsustainable. This naturally will lead to people not caring if they're presented with two choices that won't actually fix things, because if you're hosed either way, then why bother? Regardless of the morality of it all, this is what is happening and will continue to happen unless an avenue for fixing poo poo presents itself.
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Jun 29, 2019 16:15
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PerniciousKnid posted:This is the kind of reasonable posting that makes me think I visited the wrong forum by mistake. I dunno, most discussions on here are pretty reasonable.
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Jun 29, 2019 16:21
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Dammerung posted:I dunno, most discussions on here are pretty reasonable.
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Jun 29, 2019 16:22
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Cerebral Bore posted:Well, that's fair, but the problem is that the status quo is literally unsustainable. This naturally will lead to people not caring if they're presented with two choices that won't actually fix things, because if you're hosed either way, then why bother? Regardless of the morality of it all, this is what is happening and will continue to happen unless an avenue for fixing poo poo presents itself. That's one of those lazy thought traps though. Again, black folks have been voting for yts who don't really care about us since we've been allowed to vote, that doesn't mean we stop trying to make things better or advocate for better people. Never stop fighting.
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Jun 29, 2019 16:25
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Koalas March posted:Tbh it is Sophie's choice and throwing your hands up, letting things worse because you're not getting what you want, hurts a lot more people and makes no loving sense Im not throwing my hands up. I’m active in my local DSA. And climate change means “maintaining the status quo” is not a physical possibility
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Jun 29, 2019 16:26
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VH4Ever posted:You wanna meet me on the streets sometime, rear end in a top hat? I'll show you where the gently caress you belong. Buddy, you need some Orb in your life, you should talk to Marianne
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Jun 29, 2019 16:27
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Koalas March posted:That's one of those lazy thought traps though. Again, black folks have been voting for yts who don't really care about us since we've been allowed to vote, that doesn't mean we stop trying to make things better or advocate for better people. Never stop fighting. Electoralism isn't the only way to fight, and supporting the status quo gives the Status Quo Party no reason to ever change for the better
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Jun 29, 2019 16:29
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Wait, hold on, is this a serious "Bernie or Bust" argument or an ironic "Williamson is the better candidate" argument?
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Jun 29, 2019 16:32
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VH4Ever posted:You wanna meet me on the streets sometime, rear end in a top hat? I'll show you where the gently caress you belong. Looks like someone needs to align their chakras
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Koalas March posted:That's one of those lazy thought traps though. Again, black folks have been voting for yts who don't really care about us since we've been allowed to vote, that doesn't mean we stop trying to make things better or advocate for better people. Never stop fighting. Sure, but the important thing here is that a lot of people walk into that trap, and the amount is only going to keep increasing. Hell, if you want an example close to home, black turnout dropped to around 2004 levels in the 2016 election, so this is something that affects everyone. Basically this is why having an actually good candidate is important, and lazy-rear end "I'm not Trump" poo poo isn't going to cut it.
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Tibalt posted:Wait, hold on, is this a serious "Bernie or Bust" argument or an ironic "Williamson is the better candidate" argument? Who the gently caress can tell anymore. 
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Tibalt posted:Wait, hold on, is this a serious "Bernie or Bust" argument or an ironic "Williamson is the better candidate" argument? What do your chakras tell you Also when did "electoralism" become pejorative
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VH4Ever posted:You wanna meet me on the streets sometime, rear end in a top hat? I'll show you where the gently caress you belong. Another Bernie stan letting the mask slip.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What do your chakras tell you People who are for political violence but don't want to get probated, I think.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What do your chakras tell you My aura feels indigo with a little bit of dark yellow spikage
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The supposed Warren and Harris supporters on this forum are largely mythical. We don't have Warren "supporters" here, we just have bernie-or-busters and then a (shrinking) group of people willing to discuss second choice options and/or trying to discuss the practicalities of who might win rather than the moralities of who should. I have yet to see anyone actually post "I think Harris should win" just a few tentative steps towards "I fear Harris might win" which usually get shouted down. eh, I'll come out as having Warren as my #1 candidate, with Bernie as a pretty close second. The wide variety of plans to address a multitude of issues, and issues within those issues, greatly appeals to me, especially when I'm close enough to the issue that I can see the positive impacts many of those plans would have (Such as her comprehensive public lands proposal). That's not to say that I don't think that Sanders will eventually have similar proposals, but the hardcore focus on these issues and the team of advisors she's put together leads me to believe that she would have a greater understanding of the underlying issues and thus be more effective at implementing policies that would otherwise be outside of Sanders' more narrow economic focus. But that's just me, and I can understand why others in this forum would disagree. Anyway, speaking of plans, foreign policy! Warren's gotten a lot of flak on these forums for her foreign policy, so this is an interesting look at what her focuses as a President in that regard would be: https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1144636813803425793
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VH4Ever posted:You wanna meet me on the streets sometime, rear end in a top hat? I'll show you where the gently caress you belong. You don't become a good communist by going to meetings, or by memorizing the manifesto; you do it on the streets, you do it with your fists
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VH4Ever posted:Sure. Let's get gulags for everyone. Such productive discussion in here. gently caress the lot of you right now. Except KM. on friday in gulag you get 2 bowls of thin gruel
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Raskolnikov38 posted:You don't become a good communist by going to meetings, or by memorizing the manifesto; you do it on the streets, you do it with your fists I like both tbh
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Real talk: VH4 is going through a rough time, cut him some slack.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What do your chakras tell you people keep claiming there are honest to god williamson supporters in this thread despite no-one having actually said something like "vote for williamson" also, dunno why people are having arguments over whether to vote in the general, despite there being a pre-existing, excellent thread for discussing a topic that has little to do with the primary
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