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rjmccall posted:I'm not an expert, but I feel completely confident in saying that each and every one does its own special snowflake thing. lol
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rjmccall posted:I'm not an expert, but I feel completely confident in saying that each and every one does its own special snowflake thing. 
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beuges posted:So what's stopping Google from creating their own snowflake version of libc for their own use instead of trying to force it as a new standard? It looks like recently, Google's run out of ideas for actual products, so they're looking at things that are already in use and entrenched, and then giving them the NIH treatment, but entirely from their own self-serving perspective, as if all those other systems already in place don't matter at all. But isn’t that every google product? They can improve on things (and often massively) but except maybe wave have they ever had an original idea/product?
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Jun 28, 2019 01:40
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nothing is original
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Hughlander posted:But isn’t that every google product? They can improve on things (and often massively) but except maybe wave have they ever had an original idea/product? they totally loving killed it on two products: search engines and web advertising they killed em so hard that even massive failures like wave and google plus barely affect their bottom line
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DaTroof posted:they totally loving killed it on two products: search engines and web advertising they killed em so hard that the others are barely registering as rounding errors. it's not even loving funny.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I'm still concerned about their closing sentence: This sounds like a dangerous precedent. First Microsoft starts soliciting unpaid volunteer coders on GitHub, and now Google? What's next, IBM? tak fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Jun 28, 2019 05:11
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Volguus posted:they killed em so hard that the others are barely registering as rounding errors. it's not even loving funny. They could kill all their other ventures and keep just Google Ads and still be hugely profitable
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Jun 28, 2019 05:14
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Volguus posted:they killed em so hard that the others are barely registering as rounding errors. it's not even loving funny. All subsequent product development has basically been "fiddle with stuff".
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Remember how when lldb almost got usable they started rewriting it from the ground up for portability reasons and now it segfaults every day? Looking forward to that, but from a libc.
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Jun 29, 2019 08:35
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I think you meant to post that in the Coding Heaven thread
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Jun 29, 2019 08:45
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https://twitter.com/AustinJ/status/1144655793612107778
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Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Daylight
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Suspicious Dish posted:Remember how when lldb almost got usable they started rewriting it from the ground up for portability reasons and now it segfaults every day? Looking forward to that, but from a libc. Oh no, I really liked lldb back in 2015 when I last did C++ MacBook development. 
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Jun 29, 2019 16:59
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tak posted:This sounds like a dangerous precedent. First Microsoft starts soliciting unpaid volunteer coders on GitHub, and now Google? What's next, IBM? My dude, have you ever dealt with Bigfix? Their top support guy was hired after being the go-to guy on their public support forums for years. I went to a relevance class once before IBM hired him, and he showed up as a student just to hang out and add practical expertise to the trainer's lessons.
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Jun 29, 2019 18:08
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New ideas are rare. Re-imaginings of existing ideas can still be ground-breaking. Gmail did web-based mail much better than its competitors. And of course Google, back when it was just Google, wasn't a new idea. Google Earth miiiight be new, but of course it was bought.
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https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1145022662000951296 (link) 
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Just when I was thinking Boeing couldn't be any worse.
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Jun 29, 2019 18:38
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Arsenic Lupin posted:And of course Google, back when it was just Google, wasn't a new idea. There were search engines before Google, but building a search engine based off PageRank was a genuinely new idea. That's why they cornered the market.
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I've worked with some superb Indian contractors, but they weren't making $9 an hour. I also worked with some Tata contractors, which was not a happy time.
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I was gonna say, of course it's HCL, but then I'm pretty sure everyone who works in the tech industry has HCL contractors somewhere on the payroll.
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ultrafilter posted:There were search engines before Google, but building a search engine based off PageRank was a genuinely new idea. That's why they cornered the market.
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taqueso posted:Just when I was thinking Boeing couldn't be any worse. They're not Tesla
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ultrafilter posted:There were search engines before Google, but building a search engine based off PageRank was a genuinely new idea. That's why they cornered the market. Pagerank was a pretty big idea, but it'd ceased to be the only thing that made them better than the competition long before they cornered the market. They innovated in a bunch of ways at a time when everyone else thought search was a dead end, and then kept pointing at pagerank to distract the potential competition from the things they were doing that weren't published in papers.
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Plorkyeran posted:Pagerank was a pretty big idea, but it'd ceased to be the only thing that made them better than the competition long before they cornered the market. They innovated in a bunch of ways at a time when everyone else thought search was a dead end, and then kept pointing at pagerank to distract the potential competition from the things they were doing that weren't published in papers. The spyware and stuff?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I thought the definition of "new idea" in this thread was more like the Web, or like Smalltalk, than "substantial advance in technology for an existing idea". If Google counts, even though it's not the first search engine, then Gmail definitely counts. It was a revolution in web-based email. See also Chrome (which now sucks IMHO but whatever) versus other web browsers. What exactly did Chrome do much better than Firefox at the time? Both of them supported tabs and extensions, I don't remember anything that stood out about Chrome.
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qsvui posted:What exactly did Chrome do much better than Firefox at the time? Both of them supported tabs and extensions, I don't remember anything that stood out about Chrome. It had a smaller memory footprint.
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Chrome used to be way faster and cleaner looking than Firefox, the Firefox devs made a ton of improvements since then though
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It had a smaller memory footprint. I highly doubt anyone cared. Chrome had no extensions (no support) for the first few years of its public life. Once they did get them they tended to be quite a bit more limited than firefox ones. What it did do much better and where it did win, was the advertisement they got when searching on google.com . "Try Google Chrome". Since google was the most used search engine on the planet, it was obvious that it had no way to lose. It was not and it couldn't have been a fair fight. Google controls the most visited sites on the internet. To think that anything but a google browser can win is foolish.
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Volguus posted:I highly doubt anyone cared. Chrome had no extensions (no support) for the first few years of its public life. Once they did get them they tended to be quite a bit more limited than firefox ones. What it did do much better and where it did win, was the advertisement they got when searching on google.com . "Try Google Chrome". Since google was the most used search engine on the planet, it was obvious that it had no way to lose. It was not and it couldn't have been a fair fight. Google controls the most visited sites on the internet. To think that anything but a google browser can win is foolish. 
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I’m using the AskJeeves browser
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Jun 30, 2019 06:46
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Ruggan posted:I’m using the AskJeeves browser HttpRequestJeeves
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Volguus posted:I highly doubt anyone cared. Chrome had no extensions (no support) for the first few years of its public life. The people that care about extensions is a teeny tiny percentage.
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Ola posted:The people that care about extensions is a teeny tiny percentage. Even less cared about its memory usage. It was all about marketing, technical abilities (or lack thereof) were not on the radar for the regular folks. This was true for IE, and it was true for Chrome as well.
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extensions are a negative feature for non-techies, lol but you seem really upset that google unfairly cornered the browser market through the never-before-seen strategy of "actually telling regular people that their product exists".
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Volguus posted:Even less cared about its memory usage. It was all about marketing, technical abilities (or lack thereof) were not on the radar for the regular folks. This was true for IE, and it was true for Chrome as well. you are legitimately underestimating the degree to which firefox was a fuckin hog dude and the question was what chrome did better than firefox, not what drove its adoption over IE. firefox was never the main competitor although it probably would have killed IE eventually if chrome hadn't popped up. of course now chrome is the hog with nobody in a position to bump it off for the next hundred years or so
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I literally moved over from Firefox to Chrome because the former would eat up my old laptop's memory to the point I couldn't really use it consistently even with script blockers, but sure, that wasn't the issue, it was all Google marketing, it's why I'm using Edge on all my Windows 10 machines. 
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As shown in the thread earlier the browser is instructed to print. Is the computer doing A when instructed to do A an unusual thing outside the JavaScript world?
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