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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1145086811578032128?s=20

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Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006
has anyone said Boris Broadcasting Corporation yet

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007


i feel like they should be unloading another wave of antisemetism stuff instead of this weak poo poo

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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'political leader sometimes rests' is perhaps the most bizarre attack on corbyn yet

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


i was thinking its like when you accuse your opponent of what you are doing first
and since bojo is gonna be pm all the tory shitrags are trying to accuse corbyn of being unfit for pm first

but i think bojo is probably the most overqualified to be the westminster pm ever

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
lol they're totally trying to #hillaryshealth him

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Gum posted:

lol they're totally trying to #hillaryshealth him
What's even the point of that? He has three legitimate heirs, he's not gonna trigger a succession crisis.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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i suspect what they're going for is 'shadowy marxist junta threatens to subvert are democracy' - it's transferrable internally

i think it's a mistake, though. antisemitism and brexit seem to actually be sticking, going back on the 'did he bow at the correct angle to the monument of war dead' trail just serves to remind everybody that they just really hate corbyn and his project

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
nobody gives a poo poo about the antisemitism stuff because it turns out the wider public is also antisemitic and the constant bad faith attacks on it just encourage people to be more open about it

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Jose posted:

nobody gives a poo poo about the antisemitism stuff because it turns out the wider public is also antisemitic and the constant bad faith attacks on it just encourage people to be more open about it

I think it does actually hurt him amongst the more blairite parts of labour. Its basically a way for them to morally justify not voting Labour to themselves.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Hentai Jihadist posted:

I think it does actually hurt him amongst the more blairite parts of labour. Its basically a way for them to morally justify not voting Labour to themselves.

Yeah, but they were never going to vote for him, anyway.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1145305058403409920?s=20
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1145275160896741376?s=20

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

ha haha ha

brilliant, biting satire that neatly skewers racial divides

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:
it's with a heavy heart that i must lamp you in face repeatedly

*as your teeth fly past me after a thwack*

my heart....the struggle is real....

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

The people voted for pain. *panging fork and knife on table*

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003


well at least he's not antisemitic

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Samovar posted:

Yeah, but they were never going to vote for him, anyway.

a fair chunk of them did vote labour in 2017 - the issue is that the more reasons one gives hesitant voters to stay at home (or go lib dem, but that's mostly brexit i think), the more they'll tend to sta at home

that sort of internecine fighting also saps enthusiasm like nothing else, and activist enthusiasm is corbynism's lifeblood

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

well at least he's not antisemitic

perhaps the media can weigh in on



ah. nvm

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

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Samovar posted:

Yeah, but they were never going to vote for him, anyway.

They don't want to vote for him which is a different thing from not sucking it up and voting for him anyway cause theyr Team Labour. Pushing those people to not vote is the point.

I dunno about anyone else but I've certainly turned up to a booth intending to vote for someone before going "ah gently caress you for X though" at the last minute

Between the AS lovely disciplinary stuff (the going back and forth on suspending people or not which has happened a few times now) and the Brexit stance I think there probably is going to be an issue with erosion of support from both old blairites and young voters.

Hopefully they can make it up by having an energising GE campaign but... hell world and that stuff ain't helping

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

lorn Wayne posted:

perhaps the media can weigh in on



ah. nvm

Lol they built up to it for a while, but now they are openly saying Corbyn is as bad as Hitler (unless they are saying Jews have poor imaginations and their worst nightmares are less bad than stuff that actually happened).

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Hentai Jihadist posted:


Between the AS lovely disciplinary stuff (the going back and forth on suspending people or not which has happened a few times now)


reminder that this was the blairites and as soon as jenny formby took over as general secretary and they got booted out of being in charge it stopped aside Chris Williamson which the left wanted to suspend and it was keith vaz who stopped him being so

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



"taken out of context"
I went and looked at those quotes in context and :stare:

quote:

in a 1998 Telegraph column about the resignation of the former Labour Business Secretary Peter Mandelson, who is gay, from the Labour government, Johnson said the announcement would lead to the blubbing of "tank-topped bumboys" in "the Ministry of Sound" nightclub, and "the soft-lit Soho drinking clubs frequented by Mandy and his pals."

quote:

"It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies," he wrote, referring to African people as having "watermelon smiles."

Da gently caress

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



marktheando posted:

Lol they built up to it for a while, but now they are openly saying Corbyn is as bad as Hitler (unless they are saying Jews have poor imaginations and their worst nightmares are less bad than stuff that actually happened).

jitler

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

jre posted:

"taken out of context"
I went and looked at those quotes in context and :stare:



Da gently caress

It's just a larf innit

Just bants

Wot er legernd

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Thank English God he's going to be prime minister and not that awful bigot Jeremy Corbyn

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


marktheando posted:

Lol they built up to it for a while, but now they are openly saying Corbyn is as bad as Hitler (unless they are saying Jews have poor imaginations and their worst nightmares are less bad than stuff that actually happened).

i forget who it was, maybe the board of deputies, but they basically said corbyn would exterminate the jews what feels like an eternity ago. or at least called him an "existential threat" to jews in britain

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Is it like in the US where several prominent Jewish lobbyist groups are constantly taking about the anti-Semitic left but a strong majority of Jews vote with the liberal (in the American sense) party?

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

brugroffil posted:

Is it like in the US where several prominent Jewish lobbyist groups are constantly taking about the anti-Semitic left but a strong majority of Jews vote with the liberal (in the American sense) party?

Nah a strong majority of British Jews vote Tory. From the 2017 election-



It’s not just because of Corbyn, most Jewish voters deserted the party under the last leader Ed Miliband (who is Jewish).

Corbyn doesn’t help though, last poll I could find said 87% of British Jews think Corbyn is an anti-Semite and 42% would seriously consider emigrating if he becomes Prime Minister.

https://www.survation.com/new-polling-of-british-jews-shows-tensions-remain-strong-between-labour-and-the-british-jewish-community/

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


marktheando posted:

Nah a strong majority of British Jews vote Tory. From the 2017 election-



It’s not just because of Corbyn, most Jewish voters deserted the party under the last leader Ed Miliband (who is Jewish).


Tbf they said Liberal in the American sense so yes and yes

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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the thing is that it's basically impossible for labour to ever answer these accusations, because then they'll be 'downplaying' the issue, and in amy mass membership you'll end up with some idiots and weirdos. their only hope is in an honest press and lol they're a socialist party in the UK, they'll have to actually force them

antisemitism is never going away before a corbynite electoral victory, basically

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Hentai Jihadist posted:

Tbf they said Liberal in the American sense so yes and yes

True.

Edit- here's an article from when Labour had a Jewish leader

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-funding-crisis-jewish-donors-drop-toxic-ed-miliband-9849299.html

quote:

The Labour party is facing desertion by Jewish donors and supporters because of Ed Mili-band's "toxic" anti-Israeli stance over Gaza and Palestine. In a fresh headache for the Labour leader, it is understood that Mr Miliband has been warned that Jewish backers are deserting the party in droves over what community leaders perceive to be a new, aggressive pro-Palestine policy at the expense of Israeli interests.

One prominent Jewish financial backer, a lifelong Labour supporter, said he no longer wanted to "see Mr Miliband in Downing Street or Douglas Alexander as Foreign Secretary".

A senior Labour MP warned that Mr Miliband now had a "huge if not insurmountable challenge" to maintain support from parts of the Jewish community that had both backed and helped fund Tony Blair and Gordon Brown's election campaigns.

marktheando has issued a correction as of 18:17 on Jun 30, 2019

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008





im the knife crime raps

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




me, in madrid]: the killers should rap about british free trade deals

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Squizzle posted:

me, in madrid]: the killers should rap about british free trade deals

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



LOL imagine what an actual aggressive pro Palestine stance would entail

Then remember Ed Miliband

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Hentai Jihadist posted:

remember Ed Miliband

this is violence

pdog
May 7, 2013

Squizzle posted:

me, in madrid]: the killers should rap about british free trade deals

the DM commentator probs meant black people when they wrote the killers

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


marktheando posted:

Nah a strong majority of British Jews vote Tory. From the 2017 election-



It’s not just because of Corbyn, most Jewish voters deserted the party under the last leader Ed Miliband (who is Jewish).

Corbyn doesn’t help though, last poll I could find said 87% of British Jews think Corbyn is an anti-Semite and 42% would seriously consider emigrating if he becomes Prime Minister.

https://www.survation.com/new-polling-of-british-jews-shows-tensions-remain-strong-between-labour-and-the-british-jewish-community/

imagine being this terrified of a jam lad

and also this easily swayed by british newspapers of all things. how does anyone in the uk look at a newspaper without laughing at how transparent their agenda is??

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




but thats just the price of trade
merchant fleet is calling me
open up trade w allies
'cause im mr knifecrime

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Jazerus
May 24, 2011


like i'll absolutely admit that american voters are absolute morons but if the entirety of the media started calling anybody "literally hitler but also stalin" everyone would roll their eyes

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