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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
PHUO: Porn wouldn't be nearly as big a problem for people if sex hadn't been paywalled by Capital.
:69snypa:

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


VR porn exists, but I've never sought it out and never will, because just the thought of jacking off in a sweaty isolation helmet makes me ill.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
Give me a Spider-Man VR game and all the nausea it entails.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

christmas boots posted:

Give me a Spider-Man VR game and all the nausea it entails.

Eh, spidey’s hot but my first choice would be Thor

The Mighty Moltres
Dec 21, 2012

Come! We must fly!


Cyclops, so you can literally look around and blast the baddies.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The iron man game that is coming out for PSVR actually looks pretty awesome.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


veni veni veni posted:

I'm not gonna deny the motion sickness thing is an issue, but it's pretty overblown because it's something that goes away relatively quickly for most people. It's a non issue that is rarely even talked about anymore amongst people who use VR with any regularity.

Go into any VR group and most people have all but forgotten about the motion sickness boogeyman, because it's a short term problem that everyone got over years ago.
Just a thought, but maybe the people who consistently got motion sickness from VR stopped playing and aren't in VR groups? I don't know what percentage of people are affected by it, but you're not going to get that information by asking only people who don't have that problem.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

veni veni veni posted:

The iron man game that is coming out for PSVR actually looks pretty awesome.

As long as you can play Pepper Pots and War Machine.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Tiggum posted:

Just a thought, but maybe the people who consistently got motion sickness from VR stopped playing and aren't in VR groups? I don't know what percentage of people are affected by it, but you're not going to get that information by asking only people who don't have that problem.



No I’m saying that a lot of people that did in fact get motion sickness stuck with it and many of them are the people who are still very into VR. Myself included. I would say that when I started I was actually more prone to motion sickness than the average person and now I play games like doom 2016 and wipeout at max speed and full locomotion with all of the comfort settings turned off, and it doesn’t give me any problems.

I already conceded that the fact that VR can make people sick is bad for the platform and can ruin first impressions, but my point was that for most people who actually want to stick with it, it is a temporary annoyance. And it’s also something developers are generally hyper aware of and have found a lot of effective solutions to over the last couple of years.

So while it’s a valid complaint, people that act like it’s some sort of death knell for VR just come off as someone who probably tried VR for 15 minutes a couple of years ago, got nauseous and decided that was the hill they were going to die on while VR continues to improve and become more accessible and popular, albeit slowly.

The point is that VR will stop being such a niche thing when it’s good enough and cheap enough for just about everyone. And it’s not there yet but it’s close. And the potential is still huge even outside of the realm of video games.

I don’t think it’s purpose will ever be to replace 2D games, at least not for the foreseeable future. But acting like it’s just going to completely fail and go away is ridiculous and doesn’t line up with the increasing sales and amount of money hardware manufacturers and developers are still willing to put into it.

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
Ah yes the great and interesting character of Pepper Potts

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

PHUO: Porn wouldn't be nearly as big a problem for people if sex hadn't been paywalled by Capital.
:69snypa:

what the hell are you talking about

dumb bunny
Jan 30, 2014

Fun Shoe

spit on my clit posted:

what the hell are you talking about

You haven't gotten your sex license?

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

dumb bunny posted:

You haven't gotten your sex license?

i live in america, not whatever hellhole requires you to have a sex license. point is, "paywalled porn" isn't an issue unless you're angry that patreon exists. just use pornhub like literally anyone who wants to see porn.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Our aggregate porn obsession is a result of the physical act of sex being paywalled under latestage capitalism.
Nevermind the implicit to explicit coercion whenever money becomes involved in anything.

Maybe it's less bad in other countries that weren't started by elderly, diseased psychopaths. :shrug:

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

Our aggregate porn obsession is a result of the physical act of sex being paywalled under latestage capitalism.
Nevermind the implicit to explicit coercion whenever money becomes involved in anything.

Maybe it's less bad in other countries that weren't started by elderly, diseased psychopaths. :shrug:

what the gently caress are you talking about

rephrasing your earlier statement does not clarify what the gently caress any of that meant. porn is widely available as cheap as free, if you have internet. porn is literally not paywalled for the most part. your argument might make some sense if you were talking about a pre-internet era, but i don't think you're talking about that. i think you're just saying some stupid poo poo so you can tack on the term "late-stage capitalism" as if that ever meant anything and that's why we don't talk politics

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


This thread is so loving weird.

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Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

spit on my clit posted:

what the gently caress are you talking about

rephrasing your earlier statement does not clarify what the gently caress any of that meant. porn is widely available as cheap as free, if you have internet. porn is literally not paywalled for the most part. your argument might make some sense if you were talking about a pre-internet era, but i don't think you're talking about that. i think you're just saying some stupid poo poo so you can tack on the term "late-stage capitalism" as if that ever meant anything and that's why we don't talk politics
Again, I am not talking about porn being paywalled, I am talking about sex. Porn is a cheap or free replacement for sex for much of the population. Again, physical sexual activity is defacto paywalled, not porn. At least in the US there is a nigh-unlimited supply of free porn available. I am talking about human-to-human sexual activity.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

Again, I am not talking about porn being paywalled, I am talking about sex. Porn is a cheap or free replacement for sex for much of the population. Again, physical sexual activity is defacto paywalled, not porn. At least in the US there is a nigh-unlimited supply of free porn available. I am talking about human-to-human sexual activity.

"i'm mad that i have to pay prostitutes" is the vibe i'm getting from this.

get married. say "wanna gently caress", if the reply is "yes", then gently caress. simple, traditional, it just works.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I am starting to think that Tubgoat legitimately does not know that sex exists outside of prostitution tbh.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Transactional sexual relationships are not for me, I'm angry about the difficulty and expense of meeting people in our present dystopia.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

Transactional sexual relationships are not for me, I'm angry about the difficulty and expense of meeting people in our present dystopia.

just treat everyone like they're a lawsuit waiting to jump at you tbh. keep it to handshakes at most, say as few words as possible, don't you dare disagree with them or else you might be the next one losing your job. that's not a problem with capitalism, that's a problem with our society post-2008 or so. information, or misinformation in this case, can be spread to as many people as possible as fast as possible thanks to helldumps like twitter, and they'll all be convinced you're the devil by the time they can learn the truth. You won't have a chance if that happens.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Seems pretty non-sequiter, did you mean to reply to a different post?

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

Seems pretty non-sequiter, did you mean to reply to a different post?

I don't know how else to interpret "the difficulty and expense of meeting people" other than "literally everyone is going to lawyer up if you point a finger at them"

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
My PHUO: I have started vaping to assist with cutting down smoking and driving to work this morning ripping fizzy cola flavoured haze was a great start to the week.

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.

Tubgoat posted:

Again, I am not talking about porn being paywalled, I am talking about sex. Porn is a cheap or free replacement for sex for much of the population. Again, physical sexual activity is defacto paywalled, not porn. At least in the US there is a nigh-unlimited supply of free porn available. I am talking about human-to-human sexual activity.

Can you clarify what you specifically mean by 'physical sexual activity is defacto paywalled [in a manner which is meaningfully unique to the last few decades]'

The interpretation I'm getting, assuming a male perspective, is that you believe that, now more than ever, you must be wealthy to be sexually active; the inference I'm trying to avoid putting in your mouth is that you believe women, now more than ever, are gold diggers

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
'Cause social activities and their venues are loving expensive, nevermind the increasingly-rare occasion of meeting someone when everyone needs to spend all their time working, etc? Oh, but that's politics, just like every loving thing else on this planet that involves human civilisation in some way.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

'Cause social activities and their venues are loving expensive, nevermind the increasingly-rare occasion of meeting someone when everyone needs to spend all their time working, etc? Oh, but that's politics, just like every loving thing else on this planet that involves human civilisation in some way.

you're being obtuse

people have been socializing/fraternizing/whatever literally forever, nothing has changed except your personal tastes. go outside your expensive area, to somewhere a bit cheaper. Use google maps. It'll point you somewhere.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Alright, so where do I meet women in their mid 20s to early 30s who don't value money?

So like, Google Maps up a spot, go there with a bullhorn and start shouting "Hey ladies, anyone wanna party while the world burns down?"

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.

Tubgoat posted:

'Cause social activities and their venues are loving expensive, nevermind the increasingly-rare occasion of meeting someone when everyone needs to spend all their time working, etc? Oh, but that's politics, just like every loving thing else on this planet that involves human civilisation in some way.

I dunno man, I feel like this is a bit of an excuse [speculating] to protect yourself from rejection, or the trauma of online dating

Like, I'll grant you that poo poo's expensive these days, and taking your girl out to a romantic meal every week is less achievable for that reason; but we're all in this boat together, and we all want to bang.

e:

Tubgoat posted:

Alright, so where do I meet women in their mid 20s to early 30s who don't value money?

Ignoring the problematic nature of your premise; online dating's a start, bad as it is for everyone.
You have to temper your expectations, and grow a thick skin, but it's cheap, and you can do it while you're taking a poo poo

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spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Tubgoat posted:

Alright, so where do I meet women in their mid 20s to early 30s who don't value money?

So like, Google Maps up a spot, go there with a bullhorn and start shouting "Hey ladies, anyone wanna party while the world burns down?"

To quote a timeless classic: "My world's on fire, how about yours? That's the way I like it and I never get bored"

The answer to your question is "walmart", ironically enough.

edit: For real though, capitalism isn't why you can't get a date, that's a personal thing.

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Tubgoat posted:

Alright, so where do I meet women in their mid 20s to early 30s who don't value money?

So like, Google Maps up a spot, go there with a bullhorn and start shouting "Hey ladies, anyone wanna party while the world burns down?"

If you can't cover a cup of coffee, lunch or a beer or whatever maybe it's time to do some work on yourself, instead of saying crazy poo poo like "sex is blocked behind a paywall"

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
Oh no, if rejection was an Olympic event, I'd be barred from competing due to already being a professional, my issue is actually meeting single persons of my preference in common social spaces of mutual interest.
All the different expenses (clothes ('cause they can't have no pocket-covered motherfucker be seen at their venue), drinks (a cocktail costs twice as much as a litre of my not-killing-myself hooch, and that's before the tip), tip ('else you're not getting a second drink before you sober up completely), cover, etc) aside, gently caress clubs.

Where the gently caress do I meet single ladies who love dumpster diving? "Not online" is as specific as I've found.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I think it's pretty non controversial to say that modern life is loving up people's ability to function in society in increasingly noticeable ways, and you can't divorce that from the socio economic system that defines the conditions of said people.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Tubgoat posted:

Oh no, if rejection was an Olympic event, I'd be barred from competing due to already being a professional, my issue is actually meeting single persons of my preference in common social spaces of mutual interest.
All the different expenses (clothes ('cause they can't have no pocket-covered motherfucker be seen at their venue), drinks (a cocktail costs twice as much as a litre of my not-killing-myself hooch, and that's before the tip), tip ('else you're not getting a second drink before you sober up completely), cover, etc) aside, gently caress clubs.

Where the gently caress do I meet single ladies who love dumpster diving? "Not online" is as specific as I've found.



Imho you should probably concern yourself with seeing a mental health professional and then maybe worry about the single ladies when you are good and ready, which is clearly not right now.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

steinrokkan posted:

I think it's pretty non controversial to say that modern life is loving up people's ability to function in society in increasingly noticeable ways, and you can't divorce that from the socio economic system that defines the conditions of said people.

Well, they'll always have Anthrocon

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.
Your issue is you're insecure, and constructing road-blocks for yourself so you don't have to deal with that

All your cost issues (clothes, drinks) seem to relate to trying to meet the 'one night stand club hook-up' type of relationship; which is clearly not what you actually want, and you're probably getting a little old for anyway esp if you've got no friends who club already (assuming you're similar age to what you're looking for), and you're probably not attractive enough for this to be reliable anyway (sorry not sorry).

Do you have any outside hobbies that involve other people generally?
Are you generally sufficiently desirable to be desired by people who are 'of your preference'? I.e., do you meet your minimum-standard's minimum standard?

If you're just looking to break the dry-spell, spend a few months dealing with the tinder thing, and just go coffee-shop or pub drinking. It's not the chepaest thing in the world, but you'll be getting maybe 1 match a week if you're super lucky, so it's something you can budget for.
If you're already used to rejection, you've got a leg up in the online dating scene.

Put in your bio some funny thing about wanting cheap dates or something, I dunno, use your wit and suave; swipe left on anyone who wants to be treated like a queen or whatever

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Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

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If you are too poor for coffee, take them on a walk. Its summer.

I never spent much on dating and my apartment looked like poo poo yet women wanted to be with me. It’s probably you, dude, not your wallet

You sound really weird in your posts so you probably are

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Tubgoat posted:

Where the gently caress do I meet single ladies who love dumpster diving? "Not online" is as specific as I've found.

Get into crust punk.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Just dazzle them with the insight that they already eat out of the dumpster of ideology all the time, from there is just a small step to full fledged dumpster diving.

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His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Shibawanko posted:

I will never understand the concept of "mac and cheese" and I've never tried it, it's the one dish I mostly strongly associate with British and American cooking and it's the one that I want to try the least. How can you eat pasta without at least adding some vegetables or olives or pine nuts or, if you're going to add cheese, at least add a real cheese?

I made mac & cheese this weekend, I also smoked a pork butt and had a bean, bacon & jalapeno dish underneath to catch the drippings. It all went well together, the beans are even better than the pulled pork IMO.

I used real cheese though when I made the sauce which is just normal bechamel sauce + cheese added. I also added turmeric to approximate that american color scheme though it's more yellow than orange. Then oven bake. That's how I make mac & cheese anyway.

Now if you just dump some browned ground beef (+onions, garlic, salt & pepper) into the mac & cheese mix beforehand then the mac & cheese turns into a complete dish on it's own.

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