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# ? Jun 28, 2019 18:39 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it is easy and good to poo poo on influencers, but it is the one bit of online advertisement that i can see at least has a chance of working (otoh, i forget the name of the goon who did ad buys and had metrics, but they claimed one could as well flush the money down the toilet) At least in terms of "getting youtube people to hock your products as part of their video" it definitely works sometimes, which is more than you can say for... virtually every other kind of advertising. However that "sometimes" is pretty unpredictable and companies really have no idea what to do so they just shotgun products at as many people as possible hoping one of them works.
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 18:45 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it is easy and good to poo poo on influencers, but it is the one bit of online advertisement that i can see at least has a chance of working (otoh, i forget the name of the goon who did ad buys and had metrics, but they claimed one could as well flush the money down the toilet) well the current trend is Micro-fluencers, those with relatively small small but dedicated followings, because advertisers have slowly come to realize that Insta-fluencer 400000 followers, might actually have 400000 bot followers (also its easier to bribe and hide under advertising laws)
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 18:46 |
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I really do not like how much "Prime Day!" is catching on as some sort of thing. I mean I know Twitch is owned by Amazon so it's expected here but there's so many other companies that are doing poo poo for it that have nothing to do with Amazon, maybe just selling their poo poo and that's it, and I hear about it from a lot of places I did not expect, and it's real gross and I hate it.
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 18:48 |
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Jel Shaker posted:well the current trend is Micro-fluencers, those with relatively small small but dedicated followings, because advertisers have slowly come to realize that Insta-fluencer 400000 followers, might actually have 400000 bot followers From what I've seen it "works" if you actually do research on who you're trying to get to sell your product to see if it's actually something their viewers would give a gently caress about, and collaborate with them so they actually work it into whatever thing they do and get some actual use out of the promo. However that's hard so generally companies outsource it to a marketing firm who tries to boil down all the different people into easily-spreadsheetable categories
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 18:53 |
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From that polygon article:quote:The blog post announcing the QVC-style stream is dripping with attempts at self-aware humor, like this bit about the hosts for the broadcast: Ha ha ha, we sure do have fun here at Twitch Amazon Capital Holdings Group Ltd.
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 18:57 |
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https://youtu.be/QREeweMWTZk
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 19:07 |
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amazon's had a qvc thing going on their front page for a little while now
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 19:09 |
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so irony is the new literal?
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 19:25 |
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Jel Shaker posted:well the current trend is Micro-fluencers, those with relatively small small but dedicated followings, because advertisers have slowly come to realize that Insta-fluencer 400000 followers, might actually have 400000 bot followers Why choose between being a contract-signing corporate sellout or taking the path of 1000 true fans when you could do both!
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 19:29 |
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commercialising irony is the new trend , and by definition can not be displaced
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 20:42 |
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Coolness Averted posted:so irony is the new literal? Irony means doing the exact same thing you've always been doing but inserting insufferable bullshit to show that gosh guys we're a big multinational corporation but we don't take ourselves too seriously!!! See also every single brand twitter account
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 21:06 |
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I think it's more like shameless self-awareness is the new trend. Brands have been using irony for ages. But now Nike could advertise with some poo poo like Just Do It for 50c/day to enrich our CEO and so long as they put it out on the right platform and apologised for it on the right platform it'd increase sales
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 21:20 |
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just like ironic racism is still racism, ironic marketing is marketing and should be stopped
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# ? Jun 28, 2019 22:54 |
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OK Soda still did it better
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# ? Jun 29, 2019 02:01 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:amazon's had a qvc thing going on their front page for a little while now amazon's been internet walmart since the day it launched
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# ? Jun 29, 2019 02:45 |
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https://twitter.com/paulozoom/status/1144132955461341186
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# ? Jun 29, 2019 10:10 |
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Hollandia has issued a correction as of 01:45 on Jun 30, 2019 |
# ? Jun 30, 2019 00:52 |
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One could argue that guillotines cut people's heads off. But to say that guillotines cause beheadings would be misleading.
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 01:00 |
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I had to dig this up again for another thread but I actually think it is relevant to this thread (should start at 10:30 automatically) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VwCNZvQ1g&t=630s
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 01:55 |
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oh my god the subway ad
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 02:03 |
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weird how amazon is only just now responding to these critics when they're not the republican president https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021388295618682881
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 18:18 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:weird how amazon is only just now responding to these critics when they're not the republican president They're greedy, not stupid.
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 18:21 |
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Powershift posted:They're greedy, not stupid. Absolute greed is extremely stupid by any reasonable metric.
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:03 |
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Nothing says capitalism like lovely recording contracts. Part of me doesn’t feel too bad for Taylor Swift because she still has hundreds of millions of dollars, but it’s kinda lovely that someone as successful as she is has no control over her music. https://taylorswift.tumblr.com/post/185958366550/for-years-i-asked-pleaded-for-a-chance-to-own-my quote:For years I asked, pleaded for a chance to own my work. Instead I was given an opportunity to sign back up to Big Machine Records and ‘earn’ one album back at a time, one for every new one I turned in. I walked away because I knew once I signed that contract, Scott Borchetta would sell the label, thereby selling me and my future. I had to make the excruciating choice to leave behind my past. Music I wrote on my bedroom floor and videos I dreamed up and paid for from the money I earned playing in bars, then clubs, then arenas, then stadiums.
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:31 |
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Mill Village posted:Nothing says capitalism like lovely recording contracts. Part of me doesn’t feel too bad for Taylor Swift because she still has hundreds of millions of dollars, but it’s kinda lovely that someone as successful as she is has no control over her music. For every Taylor Swift there's a thousand nobodies who have the exact same thing happen to them. record pigs.
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:37 |
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One thing I think we should be yelling at alt-right gamers: without capitalism you can pirate every videogame ever made, forever. Old, new, we have the means of making unlimited copies, organized and patched, without ever having to go to gamespot to pay 60 bucks for an unlock code. Imagine a future where thousands of sweaty gamer nerds have the time to make their pet project. "Intellectual Property" is a way of turning an infinite resource into a finite, worse one and anyone whose job is predicated on copyright enforcement gets
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# ? Jun 30, 2019 23:08 |
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yeah the twitter yellers don't actually play videogames so that doesn't matter to em
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# ? Jul 1, 2019 00:22 |
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Mill Village posted:Nothing says capitalism like lovely recording contracts. Part of me doesn’t feel too bad for Taylor Swift because she still has hundreds of millions of dollars, but it’s kinda lovely that someone as successful as she is has no control over her music. You can feel bad for all the musicians getting hosed over way worse who aren't Taylor Swift, most of which don't have even a fraction of the leverage she does in her ability to sell out stadiums.
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# ? Jul 1, 2019 14:42 |
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Oh no, my artistic integrity might be compromised! Get one of my many shirtless buff male butlers to bring me my solid gold pipe and a thousand dollar bill to light it with, I need to calm down!
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# ? Jul 1, 2019 14:49 |
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The recording industry preys on children and pimps them out while some middle aged Swedes write all the music.
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# ? Jul 1, 2019 16:38 |
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Moridin920 posted:The recording industry preys on children and pimps them out while some middle aged Swedes write all the music.
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# ? Jul 1, 2019 18:28 |
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quote:“… Baby One More Time,” the Max Martin song that made Britney Spears’s career, was declined by TLC. Spears’s team later passed on “Umbrella,” which made Rihanna a star.
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# ? Jul 1, 2019 18:31 |
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Research MKUltra
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# ? Jul 1, 2019 18:37 |
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Fried Watermelon posted:Research MKUltra an okay track, but I prefer earlier muse
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# ? Jul 1, 2019 19:24 |
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Shame Boy posted:Oh no, my artistic integrity might be compromised! Get one of my many shirtless buff male butlers to bring me my solid gold pipe and a thousand dollar bill to light it with, I need to calm down! i mean the point is if they are such fuckheads they'd kill the golden goose in Taylor Swift they are undoubtedly doing worse to literally everyone else
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# ? Jul 2, 2019 02:38 |
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-204657048.htmlquote:Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers
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# ? Jul 2, 2019 10:17 |
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starkebn posted:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-204657048.html never thought I'd see an engineering version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGdwfykYGY&t=68s
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# ? Jul 2, 2019 10:56 |
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Fried Watermelon posted:Research MKUltra I mean Taylor Swift music is bad, but not "it must be a cia mind control scheme" bad
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# ? Jul 2, 2019 11:41 |
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I never tire of brilliant business executives deciding that making sure people are paid less and treated worse is totally worth the increased cost to the company. It's either ideological or still regurgitating 50s textbooks or whatever when there are mountains of empirical evidence that poo poo doesn't work. But outsourcing is cheap! Everyone says so so it must be true! I mean, can you imagine how much profit those corporations would be bringing in if they were run by competent people? They could pay all their taxes, stick clearly within legal boundaries and still be way better off financially. Hell, they could even increase CEO pay because they would be making more money! Yes, I am aware that corporations being run for profit is a myth - and some of the most successful corporations in the world literally have profit in their business model - and it's all about appealing to some 70 year olds and computer algorithms to increase a magic number largely related to fads and fashions. But it's so loving dumb to not want to make more money it boggles my mind. Zeppelin Insanity has issued a correction as of 12:16 on Jul 2, 2019 |
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