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Zelder: Jan 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/TheHyyyype/status/1145377541793955845?s=19

https://twitter.com/Babyshoujo/status/1145429588220108800?s=19

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Gum: Mar 9, 2008; _{oho, a rapist

time to try this puppy out}

https://twitter.com/PhilJamesson/status/1145713712680120320

# ? Jul 1, 2019 16:49

felch me daddy jr.: Oct 30, 2009

TheMaskedUgly posted:

Someone was literally directly equating Bieber and the Beatles

Saying that the Beatles were the Biebers of their era is first of all entirely accurate in many ways, and second not the same as saying their music is entirely the same.

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The salient issue for me here is that the comparison to Bieber, and the general derogatory nature of the term 'pop-band' is essentially the idea that pop music is simple, unchallenging, lowest-common-denominator garbage, with minimal artistic value or integrity.

See, if you had been willing to challenge this assumption instead of uncritically accepting it and then carving out an exception for the Beatles I'd be completely on board. Uncritically agreeing that modern pop music (which for you seems to be interchangeable with Justin Bieber specifically) is garbage is exactly the kind of snobbery I take issue with. Who died and made you the arbiter of "artistic value"?

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The beatles, by every measure I have that is not entirely subjective, are 'better' than any contemporary pop act

Why are you so insistent on finding objective measurements of quality of art?

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It's not snobby to say there is a meaningful artistic difference between a Jackson Pollack, and me tripping and spilling paint on a canvas; if someone points at a Pollack and says 'my kid does that every day', that is not a mark against the art work, it is just the viewer revealing their ignorance of the craft.
This is a different question to 'do you like Pollack', or 'is Pollack good'.

Is modern pop music generally made by accident? Or is it made by literal children who are entirely ignorant about music? Do you really think so lowly of pop music producers?

Anyway, content that is also related to this discussion:

https://twitter.com/seanoneal/status/1095703685504614403

# ? Jul 1, 2019 17:25

Farecoal: Oct 15, 2011; There he go

I like Ob La Di, it's a cute n sweet song

# ? Jul 1, 2019 17:29

SulfurMonoxideCute: Feb 9, 2008; I was under direct orders not to die
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The Beatles weren't their generation's Beiber.

BTS is modern Beatles. If you don't agree it's because you're old and don't go outside.

# ? Jul 1, 2019 19:51

christmas boots: Oct 15, 2012; To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out; Biscuit Hider

It's such a dumb premise for a movie. Now, if you suddenly found yourself in a world with no Weird Al, that's a movie.

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:02

Away all Goats: Jul 5, 2005; Goose's rebellion

Pop music is good

https://twitter.com/fro_vo/status/949687814781882368

https://twitter.com/TheDweck/status/1070406691638849536

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:05

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

There's like 3 times as many people alive today and entertainment is way more fractured, so getting as many people to listen to a new band as people listened to the Beatles when they were new would both be a tremendous accomplishment and have a much smaller impact on pop culture in general.

TheMaskedUgly posted:

The beatles, by every measure I have that is not entirely subjective, are 'better' than any contemporary pop act;

If I'm just trying to listen to music I like is there any objective measurement of music that's not completely useless?

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:08

theflyingexecutive: Apr 22, 2007

Zelder posted:

https://twitter.com/wybmf/status/1145401030747795456

30 rock joke from ten years ago lol

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:14

Sulla Faex: May 14, 2010; No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING

Skwirl posted:

If I'm just trying to listen to music I like is there any objective measurement of music that's not completely useless?

yes, by how freaked out dogs get when you play it

the more freaked out, the better the music

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:18

Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Sulla Faex posted:

yes, by how freaked out dogs get when you play it

the more freaked out, the better the music

That's entirely subjective based on the dog. and not a good measurement to begin with.

https://twitter.com/aussiesdointhgs/status/1144668159112351744

(repeat for the thread I think).

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:20

some plague rats: Jun 5, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

TheMaskedUgly posted:

Someone was literally directly equating Bieber and the Beatles

The salient issue for me here is that the comparison to Bieber, and the general derogatory nature of the term 'pop-band' is essentially the idea that pop music is simple, unchallenging, lowest-common-denominator garbage, with minimal artistic value or integrity.
I'm countering this with the observation that the beatles are not simple or unchallenging, but are rather deliberately, deceptively complex, and the unusual (for the genre) complexity of their music is itself a mark in their favour; it reveals a passion for the craft that is simply absent from mass-produced contemporary pop-music.

Just as an example, I think you'd struggle to find even one Bieber song that is not in 4/4 time; where-as a song like 'happiness is a warm gun' changes time signatures 6 times in the first minute; playing with the listeners expectations of how 4/4 should sound, by loving you with bars of 6/4, and 5/4; before subverting it with the same thing, but in triplet feel; throwing it into alternating 9/8, 10(?!)/8.
This isn't 'complicated for the sake of complicated'; this is purposeful rhythmic complexity, coming from a firm understanding of the theory, that meaningfully and deliberately messes with your time sense; that you can really feel.

Your comment that they are the same genre, and the genre has evolved is accurate. My issue is that it has measurably devolved; almost all of the negative qualities we assosciate with pop music generally, are qualities the beatles do not actually have. The beatles, by every measure I have that is not entirely subjective, are 'better' than any contemporary pop act; they have academic value, I am a better musician for having studied the academic works that have been published on them.

It's not snobby to say there is a meaningful artistic difference between a Jackson Pollack, and me tripping and spilling paint on a canvas; if someone points at a Pollack and says 'my kid does that every day', that is not a mark against the art work, it is just the viewer revealing their ignorance of the craft.
This is a different question to 'do you like Pollack', or 'is Pollack good'.

Look at this nerd trying to persuade us his boring rear end boomer music is good by talking about how smart it is, "ooh but the time signatures" gently caress off grandad

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:23

grittyreboot: Oct 2, 2012

https://twitter.com/FU_TangClan/status/1145019871354392582?s=19

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:29

christmas boots: Oct 15, 2012; To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out; Biscuit Hider

Beatles good
Modern pop good
Rap good
Country good
Rock bad
jazz bad
blues good on prime-numbered days
ska good and bad simultaneously
polka only good on national holidays
mighty mighty bosstones good on a full moon
two princes one is good the other tells only lies

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:30

grittyreboot: Oct 2, 2012

The only good song is gently caress The Pain Away by Peaches

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:47

repiv: Aug 13, 2009

https://twitter.com/dril/status/26334898832?lang=en

# ? Jul 1, 2019 20:52

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

# ? Jul 1, 2019 21:03

TheMaskedUgly: Sep 21, 2008; Let's play a different game.

Skwirl posted:

If I'm just trying to listen to music I like is there any objective measurement of music that's not completely useless?

volume?

# ? Jul 1, 2019 21:14

SulfurMonoxideCute: Feb 9, 2008; I was under direct orders not to die
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Like whatever you want and don't be pretentious about it. Goddamn.

# ? Jul 1, 2019 22:05

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

https://twitter.com/hsiridoj/status/1145817736423124995?s=21

# ? Jul 1, 2019 23:16

Nottherealaborn: Nov 12, 2012

chitoryu12 posted:

https://twitter.com/hsiridoj/status/1145817736423124995?s=21

Couldn�t have been that good, already got deleted

# ? Jul 1, 2019 23:32

fullroundaction: Apr 20, 2007; Drink beer every day

grittyreboot posted:

The only good song is gently caress The Pain Away by Peaches

The whole teaches of peaches album is also very good

# ? Jul 2, 2019 00:00

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

Nottherealaborn posted:

Couldn�t have been that good, already got deleted

Still there for me.

# ? Jul 2, 2019 01:03

Mr.Radar: Nov 5, 2005; You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

chitoryu12 posted:

Still there for me.

Screenshot it then since it's definitely not there for me.

# ? Jul 2, 2019 01:04

bare bottom pancakes: Sep 3, 2015; Production: Complete

Truly amazing.

# ? Jul 2, 2019 01:19

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

christmas boots posted:

It's such a dumb premise for a movie. Now, if you suddenly found yourself in a world with no Weird Al, that's a movie.

UHF wasn't all that good.

# ? Jul 2, 2019 01:19

Farecoal: Oct 15, 2011; There he go

Absurd Alhazred posted:

UHF wasn't all that good.

# ? Jul 2, 2019 01:26

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

It was a video, but drat yeah it's gone. Not sure why.

# ? Jul 2, 2019 01:27

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

christmas boots posted:

It's such a dumb premise for a movie. Now, if you suddenly found yourself in a world with no Weird Al, that's a movie.

Given that the Beatles didn't exist in the world of Yesterday, but all the Beatles-influenced music appears to, did Weird Al get to release Chicken Pot Pie?

# ? Jul 2, 2019 01:38

cash crab: Apr 5, 2015; all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology

move on from Pop Music derail please

# ? Jul 2, 2019 02:31

Mak0rz: Aug 2, 2008; 😎🐗🚬

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/319595772981166080

# ? Jul 2, 2019 02:37

Danaru: Jun 5, 2012; 何 ??

You have surpassed even The Corn

# ? Jul 2, 2019 03:07

Farecoal: Oct 15, 2011; There he go

I think Dril is stalking me:

https://twitter.com/dril/status/1145836631603077120

# ? Jul 2, 2019 03:38

Pastry of the Year: Apr 12, 2013

Absurd Alhazred posted:

UHF wasn't all that good.

It is with great regret and affection that I flush your entire body down the toilet

# ? Jul 2, 2019 05:12

Memento: Aug 25, 2009; Bleak Gremlin

https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/1145914807410987010?s=19

# ? Jul 2, 2019 05:45

Katt: Nov 14, 2017

Can we have some sort of distinction for bands and artists who just put a ton of effort into their music and in training with their art and instrument?

Like when Nightwish rents a whole orchestra and puts a huge amount of effort into making something like The Poet And The Pendulum at 14 minutes for a single song. Or Iron Maidens Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Quadrophenia, Bob Dylans Hurricane, Frank Zappa where he just took everything he made from the last album and threw it into making the next one.

While many modern artists get handed lyrics the record company bought from a mass producing music writer for $50 a piece, throw in some dubstep and clock it at 2:30 and ship it.

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# ? Jul 2, 2019 07:08

Sulla Faex: May 14, 2010; No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING

ITT people conflating music with the music industry

ITT dummies

# ? Jul 2, 2019 07:10

BallisticClipboard: Feb 18, 2013; Such a good worker!

PYF ruins another thread because they're argumentative idiots with the attention spans of 5 year olds

https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/1145907008241115136

BallisticClipboard has a new favorite as of 07:48 on Jul 2, 2019

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El Gallinero Gros: Mar 17, 2010

https://mobile.twitter.com/Reds/status/1137412742007132160

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Pastry of the Year: Apr 12, 2013

https://twitter.com/BoogTweets/status/1145033873237131266

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