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Piell posted:I'm confident on this one Toxx for it then. The census will at the very least be delayed.
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Katt posted:Wow that's exactly what I've been thinking for years. I have no military experience nor real combat experience, but this seems like kind of a ridiculous point. In the heat of combat I'm just imagining a tank commander? spotter? gunner? seeing an enemy fighting vehicle and being like oh no we have a shot on that but it's not an enemy tank, even though it looks visually quite similar, don't shoot it, it's not our highest priority. It seems to me like they'd probably just shoot whatever they think is enemy. That being said isn't tank combat almost hopelessly outdated, like the odds of actual tank on tank fighting with equivalent forces just kind of still trying to refight WW II doctrines?
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eviltastic posted:Regarding the homeless, it's worth noting that bussing the undesirables away somewhere else already happens in some cities on the regular. This is not really much of "a thing". Certainly, it happens occasionally, especially maybe some smaller municipalities, but it's largely a myth that cities are large scale trying to bus away their homeless population.
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I think I said this before in the thread but I stand by it: in about 10 years time a book will come out that talked about how Trump was suffering dimentia throughout his presidency, shat himself continuously, said the N word to everyone within shouting distance and tried to start at least one war every day, and everyone in the country will say "sounds about right" and move on.
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1glitch0 posted:Oh, it's pure propaganda, and it's weird because you can just look around and see it's not true. One of the Sinclair anchors said how he was scared to get out of his car at night in dt Seattle and I walk around dt at night all the time and I never feel in danger. You just see tourists and people going to restaurants and chilling and nothing bad is happening. Yeah, I live in Tacoma (which is getting expensive and gentrified as gently caress thanks to Seattleites moving south lol) and unfortunately even a lot of well meaning "liberal" types have been sharing that poo poo as well as pointing out how many more homeless people you see in Tacoma. And it's like... Yo, did the fact that your rent has doubled in the last ten years and your wages haven't give you something of a clue as to why you see more homeless people??? No they must be getting bussed in by communists to take advantage of social services or something something
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Katt posted:Not impressed by stealth bombers. That's an F-117. Edit: a fighter, not a bomber, and I think it It used different tech to be radar invisible ... or should have been. They're out of service I think now, while ther B 2 is still going. For a free years more, at least. Also I think the only one we've lost was that crash a few years back. Rodenthar Drothman fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jul 2, 2019 |
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:That's an F-117 No the text is just in Russian.
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eviltastic posted:There are planes as well, so this can get even more dumb! Surprise! Here's an expensive plane we keep trying to retire because it's expensive just to maintain because it needs its own special climate-controlled hangar!
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Well I hope the Sinclare people actually do feel paranoid to breathe anywhere cuz they're pieces of poo poo. it's not Seattle's fault they're paid to be state funded shitheads.
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WorldsStongestNerd posted:Toxx for it then. The census will at the very least be delayed. Fair warning: don't tell other people to toxx, lest the mods decide to toxx you instead.
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pseudanonymous posted:I have no military experience nor real combat experience, but this seems like kind of a ridiculous point. In the heat of combat I'm just imagining a tank commander? spotter? gunner? seeing an enemy fighting vehicle and being like oh no we have a shot on that but it's not an enemy tank, even though it looks visually quite similar, don't shoot it, it's not our highest priority. It seems to me like they'd probably just shoot whatever they think is enemy. If your APCs are getting sighted by enemy armor, you already hosed up.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:That's an F-117. F-117s were always used to bomb poo poo. The designation is misleading.
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eviltastic posted:There are planes as well, so this can get even more dumb! Hey anyone else remember when someone scheduled an airliner to fly by NYC in 2008 without telling everyone it was for a photo-op and how that was a big scandal?
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Munkeymon posted:Hey anyone else remember when someone scheduled an airliner to fly by NYC in 2008 without telling everyone it was for a photo-op and how that was a big scandal? That was Air Force One buzzing the Statue of Liberty
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cochise posted:F-117s were always used to bomb poo poo. The designation is misleading. Indeed
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I am so conflicted on whether he's doing this stuff as a strategy (which seem unlikely because he's so stupid) or if he's so stupid he just babbles things (which seems unlikely because who could be that stupid?). I'm also so unhappy that I have to think about Donald Trump so much since I dismissed him when I was like 8 years old in the 80s as a stupid weirdo. But I guess that's why we call it the hell world timeline. Just to rant, I have tried to come up for an analogy for Donald Trump being president and there is literally no analogy. The best analogy would be Donald Trump becomes president. It's so stupid that even with all the horrific things going on it's hard to take serious because he's Donald Trump. If/when I get taken away to a concentration camp for being liberal or an atheist or being on the west coast I don't even know if I'll be able to take it seriously. It's so dumb I think it might be beyond my comprehension. I can't wrap my mind around the idea that the guy who ruined a Wrestlemania by being a boring loser D-list idiot is now destroying the country. I was pissed about Wrestlemania. This is just baffling. I'm not naive enough to believe this country isn't poo poo or racist, but this particular person is such a joke I just can't figure it out. I still want to make an analogy, but there's no analogy. Nothing compares to how dumb this is. I've had so little respect for this country since I was 16-ish or so and now I'm almost 40 and I can't believe that my expectations have not been met.
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1glitch0 posted:Oh, it's pure propaganda, and it's weird because you can just look around and see it's not true. One of the Sinclair anchors said how he was scared to get out of his car at night in dt Seattle and I walk around dt at night all the time and I never feel in danger. You just see tourists and people going to restaurants and chilling and nothing bad is happening. A few years ago, before Uber/Lyft was available here, I was at the winter beer festival in downtown Portland with a friend, his dumbfuck neighbor and a few of my buddy's clients from Eugene, all white men. We decided that we were going to change venues and headed to a bar just across the river in inner SE Portland, probably a mile or so walk. While people started hemming and hawing over how to get there, I just started walking and they all fell in line. The first few blocks after crossing the river is in an industrial section with a pretty good sized chunk of homeless living in the area. The pearl clutching & asking if everything was safe from all of the dudes was hysterical. Especially my buddy's dumbfuck neighbor who I've gotten into with before when he said he & his wife were going to take tactical shooter classes in case they're ever in a mass shooting situation.
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Technically it wasn't Air Force One at the time as the President was not on board  cochise posted:F-117s were always used to bomb poo poo. The designation is misleading. Most likely designated as such to confuse Soviet intelligence
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Katt posted:No the text is just in Russian. It literally says "F-117" on the poster. Also "Greetings from Serbia". The F-117 wasn't actually a fighter despite the common moniker, though - just a light bomber. And Serbia did shoot one down, but I'm not sure what the other two crosses are? There supposedly weren't any non-combat crashes during the Serbia campaign, but one was at least rumored to be grounded by damage. Stickman fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jul 2, 2019 |
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pseudanonymous posted:That being said isn't tank combat almost hopelessly outdated, like the odds of actual tank on tank fighting with equivalent forces just kind of still trying to refight WW II doctrines? tank on tank fighting happens often enough but nowadays missiles are so powerful and portable that one of the biggest threats to tanks is a couple guys who pop out of a hole with a rocket launcher. there's tons of videos showing this in syria if you care to go down that rabbit hole (don't). and also you have to count in missiles from aircraft, drones, or even other tanks - south korea has some wild anti-tank stuff, for obvious reasons
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1glitch0 posted:I am so conflicted on whether he's doing this stuff as a strategy thats a for sure no though
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If I had to guess someone tried to calm trump down about followers on twitter and why he didn’t have the most or something, and it’s obviously on twitter.
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Stickman posted:but I'm not sure what the other three crosses are? Because it makes a better propaganda poster in wartime.
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eviltastic posted:There are planes as well, so this can get even more dumb! Well, I know what I want most from the president of the country I live in is "the element of surprise". Just like when I go to work or to the grocery store or to the park on my day off to chill I always hope for an element of surprise.
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pseudanonymous posted:This is not really much of "a thing". Certainly, it happens occasionally, especially maybe some smaller municipalities, but it's largely a myth that cities are large scale trying to bus away their homeless population. Have a Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/dec/20/bussed-out-america-moves-homeless-people-country-study
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luxury handset posted:tank on tank fighting happens often enough but nowadays missiles are so powerful and portable that one of the biggest threats to tanks is a couple guys who pop out of a hole with a rocket launcher. there's tons of videos showing this in syria if you care to go down that rabbit hole (don't). and also you have to count in missiles from aircraft, drones, or even other tanks - south korea has some wild anti-tank stuff, for obvious reasons Offensive systems are always more effective than defensive ones. Defensive systems have the inherent disadvantage of being known in advance which means you can plan ways to defeat them in advance which almost universally comes down to using more or more powerful weapons to get through them. That's why SDI was a poo poo plan regardless of how effective the systems could be designed to be the solution was simply throw more warheads at it until you overwhelmed it's capabilities. and why a loving border wall is god damned moronic.
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Doctor Butts posted:That's got to be one strong train car. They transport big transformers by heavy rail cars think 350 metric tons big. Tanks are heavy but they aren't heavy. Tanks are something one could put on a low boy Mafi. That photo isn't good enough but normally one can read tare, net max and gross max allowable on a rail car like that. I see where it is I just can't read it. Given that it's prefix is DODX, it's almost certainly designed for what it's doing.
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All the tanks and planes planned for the parade are just support for the piece de resistance:
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pseudanonymous posted:This is not really much of "a thing". Certainly, it happens occasionally, especially maybe some smaller municipalities, but it's largely a myth that cities are large scale trying to bus away their homeless population. Sure, it’s usually just homeless with mental health issues, like the 1,500+ from this one hospital over 5 years: quote:An eight-woman jury deliberated less than three hours after a two-week trial before deciding unanimously that every Rawson-Neal Psychiatric Hospital patient who was given a Greyhound bus ticket to another city and no other arrangements for care after June 2011 should receive $250,000.
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luxury handset posted:the military doesn't really want to throw trump a parade so shipping in some token vehicles for a photo op is the bare minimum effort to keep president toddler happy Nah. You have places like Fort Pickett and Fort AP Hill that have many. Here’s Pickett:  e: Pickett also has a Sherman on display at the gate.
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Too bad all these mad people already burned their Nikes the first time.
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DrNutt posted:Yeah, I live in Tacoma (which is getting expensive and gentrified as gently caress thanks to Seattleites moving south lol) and unfortunately even a lot of well meaning "liberal" types have been sharing that poo poo as well as pointing out how many more homeless people you see in Tacoma. And it's like... Yo, did the fact that your rent has doubled in the last ten years and your wages haven't give you something of a clue as to why you see more homeless people??? No they must be getting bussed in by communists to take advantage of social services or something something It's frustrating. I met a few cool guys waiting for the bus and we chatted going home and they brought up the Sinclair special and it was nuts. They bought into it even though they weren't doing very good and seemed pretty progressive and I tried to explain how nuts it was, but nope the "punch down" thing is real.
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The Republican party is a white supremacist organization, and your Republican family members are white supremacists https://twitter.com/NRCC/status/1146125706340052992
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Ralepozozaxe posted:Too bad all these mad people already burned their Nikes the first time. They bought new ones for the next 'boycott' because regressives signal their conservative virtues in such a manner.
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Big Adult Military has to keep president poopybrains happy! They aren't even real tanks! Sad!
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Phenotype posted:All the tanks and planes planned for the parade are just support for the piece de resistance: Those warhammer 40k memes with him are weird. I knew a guy that was super into it before the elections and he loved spamming them and creepy anime girls for Trump memes on facebook.
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