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Meridian posted:It is true, I don't expect any intervention or even condemnation. That is setting aside the fact that Trump's brain holes would likely result in some insane retaliation. If you're in a protesting or protest-supporting mood, see if there are any: - ICE or CBP facilities or offices in your area - Facilities of any of the companies involved in supporting or supplying the concentration camps (GEO Group and another private prison company whose name I can't recall offhand are a good place to start) Call your congresspeople even if they're horrible, and if they're horrible that's another protest opportunity. Signal boost the bad things and good responses to the bad things. Participate in your local DSA chapter and/or local Dem Party organization and/or any local immigrant support groups.
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Meridian posted:It is true, I don't expect any intervention or even condemnation. That is setting aside the fact that Trump's brain holes would likely result in some insane retaliation. This. No one is coming to save us from across the pond. We have to stop the Nazis at home this time
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GreyjoyBastard posted:If you're in a protesting or protest-supporting mood, see if there are any: Thanks, I will look into all of these.
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PoizenJam posted:I know this is supposed to mock him, but I always have concerns about this type of imagery. Many extreme right wing folk love the hell out of Warhammer 40k and unironically think the emperor of mankind is awesome. I doubt this piece has its intended effect. my dude I believe this is in earnest. The whole GEOTUS is a real thing on chud forums.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:gently caress this poo poo not surprised but whats lovely too is even if he got found guilty, he would have been pardoned that day. makes sense. no one outside the chuds is gonna watch this dumb circus.
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redreader posted:I think a lot of right wing people are scared to death of cities. They are scared to death of nearly everything.
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TulliusCicero posted:This. No one is coming to save us from across the pond. We have to stop the Nazis at home this time Agreed. We have to take care of things at home. America loved to brag about beating the Nazis and had an entire industry to it, have to do it here and now again.
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/GadiNBC/status/1146111881565933569 I understand that our country is broken, but why isn't the international community calling for trials at the Hague?
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sexpig by night posted:we've become addicted to the myth that the holocaust just happened one day, no German knew about it, no one heard any idea of it, they all just woke up one day and oh poo poo death camps. It's a really powerful myth because breaking it requires admitting that millions of people actually fully knew what was happening in their country and were powerless to stop it and we super don't love admitting that now because...ya know...the camps... There is a good, if tough, read that was recommended in one of the previous iterations of this thread: “They Thought They Were Free” https://g.co/kgs/G8rr4Z
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generic one posted:Sounds like someone just found out he’s not gonna be on the ticket for Trump’s 2020 campaign. At least we know that Trump is still alive, because they're still using the "we'll tell you in a few weeks" BS that they'd have dropped instantly it he keeled over on the shitter and they didn't have to mimic his goobrain baby talky paterns to keep him happy any more.
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nine-gear crow posted:At least we know that Trump is still alive, because they're still using the "we'll tell you in a few weeks" BS that they'd have dropped instantly it he keeled over on the shitter and they didn't have to mimic his goobrain baby talky paterns to keep him happy any more. That’s almost exactly what happened to Reince before we found out he got the boot, minus the few weeks thing. I’m assuming they’d need to do a little more damage control with interested parties if that happened with the VP. Or, you know, maybe DJT just hurt Pence’s feelings with a new nickname.
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KillHour posted:I understand that our country is broken, but why isn't the international community calling for trials at the Hague? Because we're all either cowards or agreeing with the treatment. The EU policy is forcing migrants to drown in the Mediterranean in insane numbers. Then the survivors get put in camps and eventually deported to where we feel like they belong. So someone who was born and raised in Iran as a refugee will be sent to where their parents fled from. The cruelty is the point. E: Pardon the bad framing, I don't have an answer for the rest of the international community. I don't mean to imply that the majority of humanity isn't a part of it. Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jul 3, 2019 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:not surprised but whats lovely too is even if he got found guilty, he would have been pardoned that day. Doubtful, if he accepts the pardon he's admitting to being guilty and the US doesn't want that.
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sexpig by night posted:Pence isn't getting bumped, for one thing we'd know about it hours ago if he was because his staff is all teeth grinding evangelical psychos who think god himself chose them to save america You can't... "bump" the VP. They're elected and protected legally and constitutionally. You can ignore them and shuffle them off, but the only way to get rid of the VP I'm aware of is to impeach them.
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pseudanonymous posted:You can't... "bump" the VP. They're elected and protected legally and constitutionally. You can ignore them and shuffle them off, but the only way to get rid of the VP I'm aware of is to impeach them.
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pseudanonymous posted:You can't... "bump" the VP. They're elected and protected legally and constitutionally. You can ignore them and shuffle them off, but the only way to get rid of the VP I'm aware of is to impeach them. you don't have to run on the same ticket your second time, that's what some very dumb people think is gonna happen
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pseudanonymous posted:You can't... "bump" the VP. They're elected and protected legally and constitutionally. You can ignore them and shuffle them off, but the only way to get rid of the VP I'm aware of is to impeach them. The VP could resign. Pence seems obsequious enough to do it if asked. You could also just select a different running mate.
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sexpig by night posted:you don't have to run on the same ticket your second time, that's what some very dumb people think is gonna happen Whose Trump going to get for a new running mate? Ivanka?
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:health physicist? Radiation specialist. Biggest employers are miners, hospitals and oil and gas company Edit: whoops didn't mean to put jails in there. oxsnard fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jul 3, 2019 |
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sexpig by night posted:you don't have to run on the same ticket your second time, that's what some very dumb people think is gonna happen Actually, that doesn't seem that unreasonable to me. Trump could rape someone on live tv and the Evangelicals would still support him, so what is Pence actually doing for him? Did Pence donate a bunch of money to Trump's campaign so Trump could grift it out? Doubtful, he's not that rich.
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Young Freud posted:Whose Trump going to get for a new running mate? Ivanka? That would be really easy to convince him to do that if they really wanted.
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OutOfPrint posted:Haha this is going to be such a shitshow. Literally, if they don't get more toilets in.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:If you're in a protesting or protest-supporting mood, see if there are any: I'm not trying to be part of the Nothing Matters crew because I definitely agree with most of your points here, especially trying to get actual Leftists elected and supporting local immigrants where and when possible. But I am genuinely curious what's the loving point of peaceful protest at this stage? We're dealing with literal Nazis running literal concentration camps for children. I'm not going to advocate doing anything against the rules, but it seems like at this juncture peaceful protests are absurd. Maybe massive general workers' strikes could work if we want to classify that under the umbrella of protest, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards for the near future, if ever.
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OutOfPrint posted:Haha this is going to be such a shitshow. It sure would be a shame if that one porta potty were to somehow be out of order...
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I'm not trying to be part of the Nothing Matters crew because I definitely agree with most of your points here, especially trying to get actual Leftists elected and supporting local immigrants where and when possible. But I am genuinely curious what's the loving point of peaceful protest at this stage? We're dealing with literal Nazis running literal concentration camps for children. I'm not going to advocate doing anything against the rules, but it seems like at this juncture peaceful protests are absurd. Maybe massive general workers' strikes could work if we want to classify that under the umbrella of protest, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards for the near future, if ever. improving good guy morale, hurting bad guy morale, improving inmate/detainee morale, acting as a space for activists to connect with one another, media coverage, raising awareness of companies being involved with the camps if that's who you're protesting the connectivity part is especially important if you're planning on organizing eg general strikes, those don't just materialize out of nowhere with no effort
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sexpig by night posted:you don't have to run on the same ticket your second time, that's what some very dumb people think is gonna happen When’s the last time this administration did anything by normal standards? I’ll wait. Seriously, I doubt he’s gonna dump Pence, but it’s kinda funny that situation played out exactly how it did with Reince, and it was only like several days ago DJT pronounced he was 100% on board with Pence, and in Trump’s administration standards, that’s usually a Fredo moment of what’s actually gonna happen.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I'm not trying to be part of the Nothing Matters crew because I definitely agree with most of your points here, especially trying to get actual Leftists elected and supporting local immigrants where and when possible. But I am genuinely curious what's the loving point of peaceful protest at this stage? We're dealing with literal Nazis running literal concentration camps for children. I'm not going to advocate doing anything against the rules, but it seems like at this juncture peaceful protests are absurd. Maybe massive general workers' strikes could work if we want to classify that under the umbrella of protest, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards for the near future, if ever. Because encouraging those who can protest, to protest, means that they in turn may inspire more. When people are protesting in greater and greater numbers, but things still aren’t changing, then the organizational structure and communication lines are there to progress to a general strike. It’s an escalation, which is necessary to get people on board and understanding. You’re not going to get a lot of people to join a general strike by jumping up and saying, “general strike, now!” You get more by having protests within the cities people live, whether or not there are CBP or ICE related facilities in that city. The people in the protest then talk and figure out how to keep in touch, because babbys first protest gets them energized. Then you get them protesting regionally at facilities or state capitols. They’ve been informed, they decide its worth doing, they come and keep energized. Then it’s decided to protest in greater numbers, sitting in for longer. And then that doesn’t work.... but they’ve been energized, engaged, and they have been telling friends and family what they’re doing. Those friends and family seeing protest after protest may get convinced. And then you have more people who are engaged and energized saying - why isn’t this working? What can we do? And then you general strike, and people say, yeah, that makes sense. We have been trying, it’s not working, we’ve got the community, let’s do it. You don’t try to headshot at the start of the war.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I'm not trying to be part of the Nothing Matters crew because I definitely agree with most of your points here, especially trying to get actual Leftists elected and supporting local immigrants where and when possible. But I am genuinely curious what's the loving point of peaceful protest at this stage? We're dealing with literal Nazis running literal concentration camps for children. I'm not going to advocate doing anything against the rules, but it seems like at this juncture peaceful protests are absurd. Maybe massive general workers' strikes could work if we want to classify that under the umbrella of protest, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards for the near future, if ever. Peaceful, not peaceful, you get to decide. Go to the trump tank parade and fart, if that's all you can do, NP. Travel to the concentration camps and protest hard if that is what you can do, hard. Protest agitate agitate agitate. Whatever. The point is do something, maybe even if it's a bit or more against the rules. Do something.
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